Costs to be recorded to Internal Order instead of Cost Center
Hi,
My client has created a new Personnel Area and has started hiring people for it. They did not create a cost center for this. Meanwhile, if any costs are to be recorded for the employees in this Personnel Area, the client wants them record to an Internal Order (instead of Cost Center). Later, when they create a cost center, they may transfer the costs from Internal Order to the Cost Center.
What needs to be done to satisfy this scenario.
Best Regards,
Veera
hi
create internal order through kO01, which is of type real order, and post all the expenses by keeping this internal order as cost object. later as you want to settle this internal order to cost centre, you should have settlement profile attached to the internal order to settle that. please update settlement profile while creating the internal order
krishna
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I have a requirement like this; in our company we have allowed the posting to be made only through internal orders no
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please help.
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best regards
gayaniHi,
Do you want to trace postings which were done only on cost centres without I/O? You can go to KSB1 and select the line where Auxiliary account assignment is blank - this will mean that these lines were posted only to cost centre.
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Table or Function module to get Internal order planning and Cost element planning.
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Hi Friends,
I need to understand how the KOB1 Report - Actual Cost Line Item works.
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Best regards, PaulHi,
Check the setting
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& also check the settlement profile.
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Deepak -
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Internal orders/networks and Cost center
is it correct to say, all internal orders and process orders will roll into a cost center at the end.
SriHello Ganga,
You can settle the costs collected on an internal order to one cost center, one G/L account, or one business process using one settlement cost element.
Hene, it is not necessary that all internal orders will roll in to a cost centre at the end.
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Table name for Internal order group and Profit center group
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Could any one provide me the table for Internal order group and Profit center group.
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Only one internal order allowed for Cost center/GL combination -validation
Dear Friends,
We are using internal orders for controlling department wise budgets.
my client wants that he be able to post only through one GL account to one internal order
that is for Marketing dept,(departments are created as cost centers)
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If internal order must be filled in these GL then you can meet your requirement by creating the validation. To meet this requirement three steps are to be created in one validation. One step is created below to make you create two more steps by your self.
Create validation under Financial Accounting Line Item using transaction GGB0.
Step 1.
Prerequisites. (Go to settings>Expert mode and fill following)
BSEG-BUKRS = '1000' AND (here instead of 1000 you enter your company code)
BSEG-HKONT = '450000' (here instead of 450000 you enter GL for canteen expense)
Check
BSEG-AUFNR = '1000'
Message
Click on pencil icon and create below message or the message you want.
Intenal Order 1000 is allowed for canteen expenses.
Assign this validation to your company code using transaction OB28 with call up point 2.
Similarly you can create two more steps. Thus your requirement can be met.
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Chintan Joshi. -
Usage of Cost Centers, Profit Centers and Internal Orders
Hello everyone,
i have perhaps for some of you a simple question but it bothers me alot.
Imagine we are using Cost centers and Internal Orders. For them we create statistical key figures using transaction KB31N.
Now we are installing SAP BI and want to create a report which would be generated acording to cost centers but with statistical key figures.
The question would be how to make a connection between cost centers orders and those stat.key.figs?
In our case the economists say that we are using this kind of scenario:
Dist.chanel ->
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Reagards
Laurynas PrikockisHi Laurynas,
Pls try to understand the concept as explained hereunder...
Cost Element:
Primary Cost Element : Replication of GL to bring costs into CO module when they are posted in FI
module
Secondary Cost Elements: Carriers of costs between two Cost Objects (when we want to transfer the
cost from Cost Centers to Internal Orders, vice versa and more, we create
Secondary Cost Elements to carry the costs and transfer them to the
reciever objects from sender objects)
Cost Center: It is a Cost Object, maintained on long-term basis, where we can capture the costs (Ex:
Marketing Cost Center)
Internal Order: It is also a Cost Object, maintained on shor-term basis, where we can capture the costs
(Ex: Internal Order for Special Marketing Campaign). Ultimately, whatever the costs
posted to this Internal Order, will get settled to Marketing Cost Center.
Staitistical Key Figure: It is used as a basis for allocation of certain expenses (Simple example would
be, Total rent paid for office is $100000 per month. This cost has to go to
different Cost Centers like Finance and Accounts, Marketing, Purchase Dept
etc on the basis of "Area Occupied". So, We will define "Area Occupied" as a
Statistical Key Figure in our system.
Now, when the Rent amount is posted in FI, it wil reach a Virtual Cost Center
(An "Allocation Cost Center" with name "Rent" to be created under your
Controlling Area) "Rent". From there, it has to reach the other Cost Centers (lie
F&A etc as explained above) on the basis of Area Occupied (SKF Created
for "area occupied")
For this, you need enter the Area Occupied values (Ex:Sq Ft) in KB31N and you need to create an Allocation Cycle (Distribution / Assessment) where in you will select "Area Occupied" (SKF) as your Receiver Tracing Factor.
I hope I am clear, don't hesitate to revert back for more explanation...
Srikanth Munnaluri
Edited by: Srikanth Munnaluri on Mar 3, 2009 7:26 PM -
Internal Order Total Plan cost
Hello All,
When the internal order is getting created in ECC from CRM, it should be able to show the plan cost based on the estimated values.
Can you please help me by telling the correct config/ enhancement that needs to be done to achieve the same. Please note that the Internal order in ECC gets created for each transaction/ service order created in CRM, so manual planning using KP26 is not of the any help for us.
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JyotiHello,
Thanks for the quick response.
I hvae checked the thread, but it just mentions that there is a possibility of getting it updated based on RFC connection.
If you have any first hand experience, can you please help me with more specific answer.
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Report by Internal Order that includes cost element and order type
Good Morning Gurus'
Is there an SAP Standard Report that shows Internal order, cost element and order type? I find many with order, but not order type.
Thanks a million!!Hi,
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Internal Order for Miscellaneous cost to material
Dear Experts,
I need your suggestion on below point.
We have some miscellaneous cost which needs to be settled to material.
Example: If the value of the 10 qty of material is 100 and miscellaneous cost for all this material is 10 then as per the requirement the material price needs to be 110(11 each).
To meet this need I planned to use internal Order with the settlement category as MATERIEL(MAT) and maintain the material in the settlement profile.
I am getting the below error when I try to maintain the settlement rule.
'Distribution rule for Material can only be created automatically Message no. KD063'
Also this is not a production scenario - we donu2019t have PP.
I am also not very sure on my approach.. Any suggestion on my solution approach?
Appreciate your time on this.
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PaulRethinking on the solution.
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PLM table for Internal Order budget, Actual Cost and Actual Hrs
Dear all
In cProjects version 4.0, we have integration with existing ECC 6.0. We create Internal Order manually and assign it to cProjects.
One cProject having one Internal Order.
Resource Planning part is managed in cProjects while Actual Time keeping(CATS with reference to Internal Order), budgeting of Internal Order, Material and Service Procurement which is done against Internal Order is managed in ECC. ECC and PLM are separate systems.
We have RFCs established to transfer actual hrs, budget and actual cost data from ECC to PLM.
Which is the ABAP table in PLM where we get linking of cProject with Internal Order and also actual hrs, budget and actual cost data in PLM system?
Thanks & Regards
Ashishactual hrs, budget and actual cost data in PLM system?
Its not there, actual hours can be found in DPR_Task but it needs to be transferred by running a report.
The planned cost etc is also calculated at runtime and passed on to Costing object in ECC (Int order/PS)
Actual hours will be in CATSDB in ECC
needless to say actual cost will also be there in ECC and not in PLM, PLM only displays at runtime based on RFC.
If you want to try, Break the RFC and try to check the Evaluation..
Niranjan -
Hi all,
What is the role of cost center, profit center, G/L accounts & internal order (if any) in product costing? If not in product costing then in controlling?
How the cost centers & g/l accounts are updated while overhead calculation, variance calculation & settlement of an order?
I had gone through the SAP library & relevant threads on SDN but still not so clear about the functionality.
Please explain me in details from a scratch .
Also is it necessary to have a thorough knowledge of FI to study product cost planning?
Waiting for your valuable reply.
SmanSHi,
No it is not possible to transfer to GL Account from Cost Center. Assessment functionality is with in CO Module. In Internal Orders it is settlement and in Settlement Profile we can have GL Account as a receiver.
I am wondering what is the Business requirement for assessing it to GL Account?
Thanks
Murali.
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