Could high "Total Output Drops" on one interface on a 3560G, be caused by faulty hardware on another interface?
Hi All,
I have been trying to diagnose a issue we have been having with packet loss on video calls (which I think we may have now resolved as the problem lay elsewhere), but in the process we have trailed some equipment from PathView and this seems to have created a new problem.
We have a standalone 3560G switch which connects into a providers 3750G as part of an MPLS network. There is a single uplink to the 3750 from the 3560 (@ 1Gbps) and whilst I can manage the 3560, I have no access to the providers switch. Our 3560 has a fairly vanilla config on it with no QoS enabled.
There are only a few ports used on the 3560, mainly for Cisco VCS (Video Conferencing Servers) and a PathView traffic analysis device.The VCS devices are used to funnel videoconferencing traffic across the MPLS network into another institutions network.The PathView device can be used to send traffic bursts (albeit relatively small compared with the Bandwidth that is available) across the same route as the VC traffic to an opposing device, however, I have also disabled all of these paths for the moment.
I can run multiple VC calls which utilise the VCS devices so traffic is routing into the relevant organisations and everything is good. In fact, I have 5 x 2Mb calls in progress now and there are 0 (or very, very few) errors.
However, I have actually shut-down the port (Gi0/3) connected to the PathView device for the moment. If I re-enable it I start to see a lot of errors on the VC calls, and the Total Output Drops on the UPLINK interface (Gi0/23) starts rising rapidly. As soon as I shut-down the PathView port again (Gi0/3), the error stop and all returns to normal.
I have read that issues on the Output queue are often attributed to a congested network/interface, but I don't believe that this is the case in this instance. My 5 VC calls would only come in at 10Mbps so is a way short of the 1000Mpbs available. Even the PathView device only issue burst up to 2Mbps, and with the Paths actually disabled even this shouldn't be happening, so only a small amount of management traffic should be flowing. Still, as soon as I enable the port, problems start.
So, is it possible that either the port on the switch, cable or PathView device is actually faulty and cause such errors? Has anyone seen anything like this?
Cheers
Chris
"As far as I know, such drops shouldn't be caused by faulty hardware, but if the hardware is really faulty, you would need to involve TAC."
Ok, thanks.
"BTW, all the other interfaces, which have the low bandwidth rates you describe, are physically running at low bandwidth settings on the interface, e.g. 10 Mbps? If not, you can have short transient micros bursts which can cause drops. This can happen even when average bandwidth utilization is low. (NB: if these other ports average utilization is so low, if not already doing so, you could run the ports at 10 Mbps too.)"
No. All ports on the switch connect to devices with 1Gb capable interfaces. They have been left to auto negotiate and have negotiated at 1000/full. The bandwidth described is more with regard to the actual data throughput of a call. Technically, the VCS devices are licence to handle 50 simultaneous call of up to 4Mbps so potentially could require a bandwidth of 200Mbps, although it is unlikely that we will see this amount of traffic.
"Also, even if you have physically low bandwidth ingress, with a high bandwidth egress, and even if the egress's bandwidth is more than the aggregate of all the ingress, you can still have drops caused by concurrent arrivals."
In general, the ingress and the egress should be similar. Think of this as a stub network - one path in and out (via Gi0/23). The VCS act as a kind or proxy/router for video traffic, simply terminating inbound legs, and generating a next hop outbound leg. The traffic coming in to the VCS should be the same as the traffic go out.
There will of course be certain management traffic, but this will be relatively low volume, and of course the PathView traffic analyser can generate a burst of UDP packets to simulate voice traffic.
"Some other "gotchas" include, you mention you don't have QoS configured, but you're sure QoS is disabled too?"
Yes.
switch#show mls qos
QoS is disabled
QoS ip packet dscp rewrite is enabled
I can't see a lot of point enabling QoS on this particular switch. Pretty much all of the traffic passing through it will be QoS tagged at the same level. Therefore it ALL prioritised.
Indeed running a test overnight with these multiple calls live and the PathView port shutdown, resulted in 0 Total Output Drops.Each leg did suffer a handful of dropped packets end-to-end, but I think I can live with 100 packets dropped in 10 million during a 12 hour period (and this, I suspect, will be somewhere else on the network).
"Lastly, Cisco has documented, at least for the 3750X, that uplink ports have the same buffer RAM resources as 24 copper edge ports. Assuming the earlier series are similar, there might be benefit to moving your uplink, now on g0/23, to an uplink port (if your 3650G has them)."
Unfortunately, no can do. we are limited to the built in ports on the switch as we have no SFP modules installed.
Apologies about the formatting - this is yet another thing that has been broken in these new forums. I looks a lok better in the Reply window than it looks in this normal view.
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2 70[1] 100[2] 100[3] 100[4] 100[5] 100[6] 100[7] 100[8]
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1 5
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1 7
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2 3
2 4
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2 6
2 7
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3 7
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0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
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description <Bayantel Voice tunneling>
bandwidth 30720
ip address 172.15.X.X 255.255.255.128
no ip redirects
ip mtu 1400
no ip next-hop-self eigrp 20
no ip split-horizon eigrp 20
ip nhrp authentication 0r1x@IT
ip nhrp map multicast dynamic
ip nhrp network-id 1002
ip nhrp holdtime 300
ip tcp adjust-mss 1360
tunnel source FastEthernet0/0/1
tunnel mode gre multipoint
tunnel key 1002
tunnel protection ipsec profile tunnel_protection_profile_2 sharedHi,
Thanks for the input. If the radio is sending out the packet but client did not receive, not output drop should be seen since packet is sent out, right?
From my understanding, output drop is related to congested interface. Outgoing interface cannot take the rate packets coming in and thus droping it. What I don't understand is input and output rate has not reached limit yet. Also input queue is seeing drop of packet as well even though input queue is empty.
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High CPU Usage / Dropped Packets - Switch Blade WS-CBS3120X-S
Hi all,
I have a couple of Switches Blade 3120, working as active-standby model (HSRP) on a new site deployment. There are other 20 sites more or less, working on the same model, without issues. But in this one, we are seeing a high cpu usage. The traffic going through the platform is 600Mbps (on peaks), and in this case we have 40% of CPU usage. Traffic should be close to 3 Gbps. When we tried to send the whole traffic through the platform, active switch began to drop packets on the majority of interfaces.
When we analyze the CPU usage, there is a special process called "HL3U bkgrd proce" always have the most CPU use, but we do not know what concerns. We do not know if it is caused because there are PBRs configured. It should not matter. How I mentioned, there are other sites working fine and have had always the same PBR number.
Could you guys help us?. Any idea what is causing the high usage?. Is there a special debug we could to perform to diagnose the issue?. Also, we have seen a high interrupt CPU usage (9% in this case).
Find attached the whole diagnosis outputs.
Thanks for your assistance guys.
Cheers,
Juan Pablo
bog-sib-INT-rtr-1#show processes cpu sorted 5sec
CPU utilization for five seconds: 30%/9%; one minute: 25%; five minutes: 23%
PID Runtime(ms) Invoked uSecs 5Sec 1Min 5Min TTY Process
157 140004809 107071220 1307 14.24% 10.19% 9.01% 0 HL3U bkgrd proce
119 6860957 1519183 4516 0.79% 0.59% 0.53% 0 hpm counter proc
166 2511492 302802 8294 0.15% 0.15% 0.15% 0 HQM Stack Proces
199 4182906 15255882 274 0.15% 0.21% 0.20% 0 IP Input
357 237531 782101 303 0.15% 0.03% 0.00% 0 IP SNMP
186 101 148 682 0.15% 0.09% 0.02% 1 Virtual Exec
242 63071 2330717 27 0.15% 0.02% 0.00% 0 CEF: IPv4 proces
12 163754 620353 263 0.15% 0.01% 0.00% 0 ARP Input
9 0 2 0 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0 License Client N
8 41 1827 22 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0 WATCH_AFS
11 50 4 12500 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0 Image License br
7 0 2 0 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0 Timers
bog-sib-INT-rtr-1#sh ip cef summary
IPv4 CEF is enabled for distributed and running
VRF Default
119 prefixes (119/0 fwd/non-fwd)
Table id 0x0
Database epoch: 2 (119 entries at this epoch)Hi Leolaohoo,
I had not played with this one too !!!!...
1). IOS version (It was recently updated)
bog-sib-INT-rtr-1#sh ver
Cisco IOS Software, CBS31X0 Software (CBS31X0-UNIVERSALK9-M), Version 12.2(58)SE1, RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Technical Support: http://www.cisco.com/techsupport
Copyright (c) 1986-2011 by Cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Thu 05-May-11 04:08 by prod_rel_team
ROM: Bootstrap program is CBS31X0 boot loader
BOOTLDR: CBS31X0 Boot Loader (CBS31X0-HBOOT-M) Version 12.2(0.0.951)SE3, CISCO DEVELOPMENT TEST VERSION
bog-sib-INT-rtr-1 uptime is 2 weeks, 3 days, 17 hours, 14 minutes
System returned to ROM by power-on
System restarted at 00:59:27 UTC Sat Jun 9 2012
System image file is "flash:cbs31x0-universalk9-mz.122-58.SE1.bin"
2). What interface do you want to see?, do you want to see all interfaces? . This switch has 16 interfaces that connect servers, and other going to our client. Below, the state of the two kind of interfaces:
Interface to Client (Bearer)
TenGigabitEthernet1/0/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
Hardware is Ten Gigabit Ethernet, address is 001f.275d.d81b (bia 001f.275d.d81b)
Description: BearerNContent_Aggregrate
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10000000 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
reliability 255/255, txload 10/255, rxload 14/255
Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
Keepalive not set
Full-duplex, 10Gb/s, link type is auto, media type is 10GBase-LR
input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported
ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
Last input 00:00:00, output 2w3d, output hang never
Last clearing of "show interface" counters 07:07:56
Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
Queueing strategy: fifo
Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
5 minute input rate 562469000 bits/sec, 83641 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 430500000 bits/sec, 73141 packets/sec
2020563158 packets input, 1739897855828 bytes, 0 no buffer
Received 13257 broadcasts (13257 multicasts)
0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
0 watchdog, 13257 multicast, 0 pause input
0 input packets with dribble condition detected
1745065310 packets output, 1347244137726 bytes, 0 underruns
0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
0 unknown protocol drops
0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
Interface to Server
GigabitEthernet1/0/8 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
Hardware is Gigabit Ethernet, address is 001f.275d.d808 (bia 001f.275d.d808)
Description: bog-15
MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1000000 Kbit/sec, DLY 10 usec,
reliability 255/255, txload 15/255, rxload 12/255
Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
Keepalive set (10 sec)
Full-duplex, 1000Mb/s, link type is auto, media type is 1000BaseX
input flow-control is off, output flow-control is unsupported
ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
Last input never, output 00:00:17, output hang never
Last clearing of "show interface" counters 07:09:12
Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 19418
Queueing strategy: fifo
Output queue: 0/40 (size/max)
5 minute input rate 47705000 bits/sec, 7155 packets/sec
5 minute output rate 58897000 bits/sec, 8011 packets/sec
178178750 packets input, 153802177226 bytes, 0 no buffer
Received 4091 broadcasts (0 multicasts)
0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
0 watchdog, 0 multicast, 0 pause input
0 input packets with dribble condition detected
212233312 packets output, 206621942776 bytes, 0 underruns
0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
0 unknown protocol drops
0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier, 0 pause output
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
Thanks for your help. I am losing my hair with this issue.
Cheers,
Juan P. -
Output Drop by RESOLVE_VPLS_REFLECTION_FILTER_DROP_CNT
Hello!
How i can determine a reason of output drops?
>sh inter tenGigE 0/0/0/6
Fri Nov 2 15:26:05.358 MSK
TenGigE0/0/0/6 is up, line protocol is up
Interface state transitions: 11
Hardware is TenGigE, address is 108c.cf1d.f326 (bia 108c.cf1d.f326)
Layer 1 Transport Mode is LAN
Description: To_XXX
Internet address is 10.1.11.77/30
MTU 9194 bytes, BW 10000000 Kbit (Max: 10000000 Kbit)
reliability 255/255, txload 2/255, rxload 5/255
Encapsulation ARPA,
Full-duplex, 10000Mb/s, LR, link type is force-up
output flow control is off, input flow control is off
loopback not set,
ARP type ARPA, ARP timeout 04:00:00
Last input 00:00:00, output 00:00:00
Last clearing of "show interface" counters 50w1d
30 second input rate 218575000 bits/sec, 41199 packets/sec
30 second output rate 115545000 bits/sec, 30555 packets/sec
481020016118 packets input, 287815762466192 bytes, 876403 total input drops
0 drops for unrecognized upper-level protocol
Received 29 broadcast packets, 39255653 multicast packets
0 runts, 17 giants, 0 throttles, 0 parity
17 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
368901547057 packets output, 180820085800502 bytes, 28931652 total output drops
Output 5 broadcast packets, 39284266 multicast packets
0 output errors, 0 underruns, 0 applique, 0 resets
0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
10 carrier transitions
>show controllers np counters np7 location 0/0/CPU0 | i DROP
Fri Nov 2 15:27:03.815 MSK
31 PARSE_INGRESS_DROP_CNT 849353 0
32 PARSE_EGRESS_DROP_CNT 1236171 0
33 RESOLVE_INGRESS_DROP_CNT 868559 0
34 RESOLVE_EGRESS_DROP_CNT 3636654813 293
37 MODIFY_EGRESS_DROP_CNT 669 0
84 RESOLVE_AGE_NOMAC_DROP_CNT 1 0
85 RESOLVE_AGE_MAC_STATIC_DROP_CNT 187392316 8
371 MPLS_PLU_DROP_PKT 1 0
468 RESOLVE_VPLS_SPLIT_HORIZON_DROP_CNT 28931887 6
469 RESOLVE_VPLS_REFLECTION_FILTER_DROP_CNT 3293536501 272
481 RESOLVE_L2_EGR_PW_UIDB_MISS_DROP_CNT 4 0
491 RESOLVE_VPLS_EGR_PW_FLOOD_UIDB_DOWN_DROP_CNT 1 0
499 RESOLVE_MAC_NOTIFY_CTRL_DROP_CNT 313463638 16
500 RESOLVE_MAC_DELETE_CTRL_DROP_CNT 1591242 0
622 EGR_DHCP_PW_UNTRUSTED_DROP 1236171 0
Input drops by RESOLVE_VPLS_REFLECTION_FILTER_DROP_CNT was considered at https://supportforums.cisco.com/thread/2099283
But how we can apply it for output?Last column at "show controllers np counters np7 location 0/0/CPU0 | i DROP" is a pps. So we see 293pps
RESOLVE_EGRESS_DROP_CNT and 0pps RESOLVE_INGRESS_DROP_CNT. Therefore RESOLVE_VPLS_REFLECTION_FILTER_DROP_CNT is a part of RESOLVE_EGRESS_DROP_CNT, aren't it?
Also, counters egress_drop are increases, but ingress_drop are not:
33 RESOLVE_INGRESS_DROP_CNT 868559 0
34 RESOLVE_EGRESS_DROP_CNT 3637707596 149
469 RESOLVE_VPLS_REFLECTION_FILTER_DROP_CNT 3294483194 129
And one minute later:
33 RESOLVE_INGRESS_DROP_CNT 868559 0
34 RESOLVE_EGRESS_DROP_CNT 3637718845 156
469 RESOLVE_VPLS_REFLECTION_FILTER_DROP_CNT 3294492975 135
Also no new input drops at "sh inter":
sh inter tenGigE 0/0/0/6 | i drops
Fri Nov 2 16:57:39.828 MSK
481200652943 packets input, 287931866783215 bytes, 876403 total input drops
0 drops for unrecognized upper-level protocol
369034005321 packets output, 180881208804090 bytes, 28963679 total output drops
One minute later:
sh inter tenGigE 0/0/0/6 | i drops
Fri Nov 2 16:59:23.441 MSK
481203274011 packets input, 287933491017363 bytes, 876403 total input drops
0 drops for unrecognized upper-level protocol
369035900847 packets output, 180882007120600 bytes, 28964280 total output drops -
Output drops on cisco link connecting to F5 Loadbalancer's management port
On a connection like below:
Cisco 6509: gi x/y <<-->> F5 BIGIP LTM: mgmt (Management Port)
We observed incrementing packet drops on the F5 BIGIP mgmt interface.
Also, at the cisco end, incrementing output drops were observed.
tcpdump (packet capture) on the F5 BIGIP's mgmt port show brodcast packets/ multicast including the HSRP hellos being received from the cisco device. It is an expected behaviour that, F5 will reject any packets it cant understand (including the cdp, hsrp and other broadcast), and this will cause the packet drop counter of F5 BIGIP's mgmt port to increase. (F5 TAC acknowledged this behaviour)
Will this cause the output drop counter at the cisco interface to roll up?
Note: On the cisco interface, i do not see any other errors, also utilisation on the link is very minimal.
Thanks
Sudheer NairHi, this is probably late, but the software counters for output drops on these types of switches (3750's, blade switches) are not reliable.
What you need to check is "show platform port-asic statistics drop" for a reliable drop counter on an interface. This will give you the hardware counters
https://tools.cisco.com/bugsearch/bug/CSCtq86186/?reffering_site=dumpcr
Switch stack shows incorrect values for output drops/discards
on show interfaces. For e.g.,
--- show interfaces ---
GigabitEthernet2/0/5 is up, line protocol is up (connected)
Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 4294967163
Conditions:
This is seen on Stackable switches running 12.2(58)SE or later.
Workaround:
None. -
I am usign a Ospry 450e capture card to stream live video using FMLE 3. Midway into the stream the out video moves like its sticking for a few seconds and the and the output Drops (fps) are over 4300! ....over a 90 minute period
I am streaming at 200k video and 48k audio [mono]You are experiencing high frame drops because of lack ofVideo Bitrate. Encoder is not able to accomodate all frames in 200 kbps. please try increasing your Video Bitrate value and let me know if it works
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Hi,
i have this circuit to control the direction of brushless dc motor
to remove the brake the brake should connected to Black and this happen after i give D0 and D3 high and this one work fine
to move back same we have to connect brake + back + black then D0+D1+D3+D4should high and this one work fine
when i want to move Forward should BRAKE+BACK +FRW+BLACK then the 6 pins should be high , but in this situation all the pins is low
any suggestion ?
the module i have 9403 and cdaq 9188How much current do you need for those optocouplers? If any more than 10mA, then this actually makes sense.
The 9403 has an overcurrent protection in it. When you reach a certain total output current (spec claims 64mA), then the OCP kicks in an turns all of the outputs to high impedance. I would recommend finding some digital buffers that can supply more current for you optocouplers. I frequency use the 74ACT245SC.
There are only two ways to tell somebody thanks: Kudos and Marked Solutions
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Hi all,
I posted this in another forum but thought I would post here to see if someone from Verizon might be monitoring and could help us. We got our Fascinate in December and we have always seemed to have a buggy 3G connection. A few things going on: one, we have never seen full signal strength on our phone, ever. I think the most we have seen is 3 bars. But more importantly, we have a strange thing happening when trying to access any Internet applications (browser, Facebook, etc). As soon as we click the icon, the bars drop down to either 1 or none. I understand that sometimes the strength indicator isn't necessarily always accurate...but half the time our pages are loading slow or not loading at all. It feels like for whatever reason the signal is indeed dropping as soon as we try to connect. I have a blackberry through verizon for work and sit it right next to the Fascinate and show full strength where the Fascinate shows maybe a bar or two. This happened before the 2.2 update and is still happening after the update.
Verizon had us reset the phone a couple of days ago and I have done the *228 a few times. We still have the issue. They are sending us a replacement phone. I thought I had seen postings from others who had issues and were able to get tech support to do something around resetting their "data connection" (whatever that means).
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