Counter Base Maintenance plan.

Hi all,
I had created counter base maintenance plan, speciefied equipment,in equipment maintained measuring point.
Then I created measuring point document, in this I had put 50 volt as my reading & click on SAVE,
then system immediated give masage create noti/service order.
if Yes then it create service order.
Now my question is is there any need to shedule maintenance plan?
Please tell me process of counter base maintenance plan.
kapil

Hi
   Maint plan for coutner
           Create the maintenance plan with maintenance strategy(IP11) which suits the performance parameter. Assign proper maintenance item to maintenance plan.
If only one measurement point is created for technical object then it will be automatically picked up otherwise select appropriate among the available once. Set the scheduling parameter according to requirement & specify the start reading. Start reading is in reference to which maintenance plan starts scheduling.
Example: Maintenance cycle is 90 run hrs., Start reading is 6 hrs and annual estimation given in measurement point = 360 Hrs (1hrs/day). Scheduling period = 365 day. Current Measuring point reading = 1 hrs on 1st Jan 06.
Schedule plan on 1st Jan 06.
Call no.     @Hrs     @Date
1     6+90=96     1st April 06
2     96+90 = 186     1st July.
System schedule call date based on annual estimation and its keep on shifting as counter reading increases with time. System will trigger the call object on schedule date even if measurement reading will not reach the specified value.
Scheduling of maintenance plan
Once maintenance plan is created it needs to be scheduled at regular interval. Single plan can be scheduled by IP10 and Multiple plan by IP30. (Called Deadline monitoring) This can be done manually or batch job can be created.
hope this will help. also please refere saphelp.com for further info
regards
krishna jois

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As you said...
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I Required help from all of you , I have made one no maintenaance plan with following details :
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cycle lenth                  10000 Nos
schedule the plan 0 Nos and
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3     22.04.2011     22.04.2011                    Scheduled Hold                      30000
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5     22.06.2011     22.06.2011                    Scheduled Hold                      50000
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7     22.08.2011     22.08.2011                    Scheduled Hold                     70000
8     21.09.2011     21.09.2011                    Scheduled Hold                     80000
9     22.10.2011     22.10.2011                    Scheduled Hold                     90000
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Diagnosis
No counter overflow reading has been defined for the measuring point, and the counter reading that you have entered is larger than the one in the subsequent measurement document.
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System Response
Processing will not be continued.
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screen shot for measurement document earlier created is as

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screen shot is attached again here for ur reference
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