Counter based startegy plan
HI Friends,
We have created a counter based startegy plan. the order should be generated at 500/1000/2000 hours.
Current counter reading is 5, still when the maintenance plan was scheduled 3 orders got generated for the same day.
Could you let me know why this happened? isithis standard system behaviour.
thnaks in advance
Warn regards
Vivek
Hi
counter based plan count the counter on the basis of annual estimate in measuring point
and on the basis of that value only generate the order
so enter the practical value in annual estimate
keep the scheduling period small
try background scheduling
hope will be work
Jitender
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Pl suggest the possible solution for below case
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screen shot for measurement document earlier created is asHi Akhilesh
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You should Maintain Annual Estimate. What is that you have maintained in your Counter. I hope you have maintained a very low value or none.
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Settings for performance based maintenance plan
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[Detailed SAP Help|http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/en/3c/abbcf6413911d1893d0000e8323c4f/frameset.htm].
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i´m not sure. Is it advisable to use a own counter for each maintenance plan and is it better to create a own performance-based maint. plan for each equipment?
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Plz explain use of MeasPoints & counters and counter based MaintenancePlan
Hi!
My dear PM Gurus
Can any body explain how to create the measuring points and counters and detailed steps
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Create the measuring point for the equipment in IK01. Before you need to create the characteristics for the measuring point in CT04.
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Sachin -
Counter Base Maintenance plan.
Hi all,
I had created counter base maintenance plan, speciefied equipment,in equipment maintained measuring point.
Then I created measuring point document, in this I had put 50 volt as my reading & click on SAVE,
then system immediated give masage create noti/service order.
if Yes then it create service order.
Now my question is is there any need to shedule maintenance plan?
Please tell me process of counter base maintenance plan.
kapilHi
Maint plan for coutner
Create the maintenance plan with maintenance strategy(IP11) which suits the performance parameter. Assign proper maintenance item to maintenance plan.
If only one measurement point is created for technical object then it will be automatically picked up otherwise select appropriate among the available once. Set the scheduling parameter according to requirement & specify the start reading. Start reading is in reference to which maintenance plan starts scheduling.
Example: Maintenance cycle is 90 run hrs., Start reading is 6 hrs and annual estimation given in measurement point = 360 Hrs (1hrs/day). Scheduling period = 365 day. Current Measuring point reading = 1 hrs on 1st Jan 06.
Schedule plan on 1st Jan 06.
Call no. @Hrs @Date
1 6+90=96 1st April 06
2 96+90 = 186 1st July.
System schedule call date based on annual estimation and its keep on shifting as counter reading increases with time. System will trigger the call object on schedule date even if measurement reading will not reach the specified value.
Scheduling of maintenance plan
Once maintenance plan is created it needs to be scheduled at regular interval. Single plan can be scheduled by IP10 and Multiple plan by IP30. (Called Deadline monitoring) This can be done manually or batch job can be created.
hope this will help. also please refere saphelp.com for further info
regards
krishna jois -
Hello All
Can any one let me know how the counter based planning can be execute.
If the maintenance is required oon one equipment after 300 hrs & 1000 hrs.
I try to do this but not able to execute properly
1) create equipment
2) create 2 measuring point against the same equipment.
3) create cycle (ip11z) with same frequency.
4) create plan (ip43) and then assign the cycle set and then attach both counter to that plan.
5) after scheduling ip10 then creating measuring document
6) finally move to dead line monitoring
here at 260 hour the system is generating order but that order contain operation of both frequency (300 hrs &1000 hrs)
i also check the hierarchy, in (ip11z ) the hierarchy field is not available like as in ( ip11)
Thanks in advance
kapilHello Sandeep
Thnx for your reply but still i am in vain pl have a look elow what i did
I create strategy (E)
Scheduling indicator u2013 time
Strategy unit- H also mention call horizon, n some other parameters
In Packages
1) 288 H 300 hour 1H 1
2) 984 H 1000 hour 2H 2
hour UOM Description Short Descript Hierarchy
Then I create M-Plan via IP42 with the same strategy and attached the task-list. So there is no field to put the counter
May be I am wrong some where ,just review the same and let me know if miss some thing
Regards
Kapil
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