CPU and NB cooling queries...

Hello to all...
I'm wondering if anyone has removed the MSI lightshow heatsink and fan combo from the northbridge chip and put on something else, say like the Zalman NB coolers? I was thinking of the ZM-NB47J cooler but as the mobo has those slots in the board for the hooks rather then holes for punch throughs, i wasn't sure if anyone had got it to work.
i was thinking that the crossbar from the stock heatsink and fan might be able to work with the Zalman, but wanted to check with other users first.
As for CPU coolers, i just changed from my Antec Sonata case to a Overture and now my Zalman 6500 cpu heatsink and fan won't work as the fan mounts to the PCI rail and there's not enough height in the case for that. I figure i'll try a 7000 series...but there seem to be mixed answers on whether or not it will fit properly as the socket isn't centered within the mounting brackets. Any help there would be appriciated.
Your thoughts, comments, ideas are appriciated.
Thanks.
G.

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Originally posted by Upstart
So i take it you're happy with the combo of the Zalman 7000, heatpipe on your vid card and the swiftec NB heatsink? I think i might follow suit.
Yeah, that combo works well for me. I haven't tried many other cooling options, so there may be better options out there. There's a new video card heatsink similar to the Zalman with two heatpipes and a Swiftech CPU heatsink with heatpipes. If I had to do it over again, I'd give those a try.
If your goal is low noise (like mine), you can't beat the undisputed champion of low-noise CPU heatsinks - the beautiful Heatlane Zen. I used this heatsink in another PC and it performs quite well. With a case that moves enough air, the Heatlane Zen is worth a try.

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As my system specs appear below, my machine was running quite comfortably a week ago, with same setup...minus the acrylic case and second 120GB hard drive.
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Originally posted by Reaver
When I originally installed the intel p4 cooler, I used artic silver ceramique paste...and the CPU temp operates at 36-38c with no load.
Perhaps I should upgrade the overall cooling. Get a Thermaltake copper fan and two HDD coolers.
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