Cpu temp not right in cool n quiet

have k8t-neo2-f mother board can not get core center to work with cool'n'quiet. cpu is 18 c and sys temp is 43 c an i know that is not right. what is wrong?
cpu fx 55
system xp pro

Quote from: gparma on 23-January-05, 08:07:16
have k8t-neo2-f mother board can not get core center to work with cool'n'quiet. cpu is 18 c and sys temp is 43 c an i know that is not right. what is wrong?
cpu fx 55
system xp pro
This is still problem about this MotherBoard K8T NEO2 FIR, or problem MSI If you have latest bios, then your temperature is after restart OK, test this.
This board have problems with temperature on cpu and fan speeds on sys - read errors

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