CPU Temp Question: 865PE Neo 2

Hi folks, I'm fairly new to this forum but hopefully you can help me with a little problem:
I just built a new comp about 2 months ago with all the parts listed below. I read through the forums here as I was building it and became aware of the Speedfan prog. I got the machine up and running with Speedfan installed and everything seemed to be fine although I was really only checking the Speedfan temps every once in a while. About 1 week ago I was experiencing a lot of crashes when the CPU was under load (I mainly use the comp for recording music with the Pro Tools program which is very hard on the CPU). I checked Speedfan and it read the CPU as 60 degrees with a little flame symbol. Concerned, I turned off the machine and had a look at the CPU. When I removed the heatsink and fan the thermal compound seemed dry and flaky so I cleaned it all off with some acetone and just reapplied some new Antec Silver Thermal yesterday. It seemed to be going fine CPU at 30-35 degrees at idle (btw I am using the standard Intel fan) but I was concerned that there may be some damage done to the CPU so I tried out the Hot CPU Tester program (not sure if anyone is aware of this). As the prog began to run the diagnostic tests Speedfan CPU temp shot up to 55 degrees again and the flame symbol stayed on. I'm not really sure what to do now.... The D.O.T is set at the default 'Seargent' and I have MAT set at turbo.
Is it possible these temps are accurate and if so is it safe to run the comp like this. If not what should I do.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I am completly stumped and very concerned.

first ! let me say that a idle temp @ 30 -35 deg is execellent for a preshot and so is the load temps,artic silvers [thermal properties} does get better with age.
second !the flame [speedfan] icons range can be set to your desired warning zone,i have had speedfan lockup scanning the smbus while running in the background,caught it and ctrl/alt/del stoped it,prob would have caused a restart,see if running cpu task without speedfan you suffer a restart!
i doubt you have damaged your cpu.

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MSI 865PE Neo-L high temp readings?

Hello..
When my system is off for a couple of hours and then i boot up my system,and go directly into the bios,my CPU temperature is already 40-45C° !!! :O
And even my cooling block isn't hot then(not even warm).
Also in windows with the MSI software i get those high temperature readings.
Only with speedfan,the temperatures are more normal.
Is this a know issue that MSI boards have high temperature readings ?(
CPU is a P4 2.6Ghz FSB800
(system is not overclocked)
Thanks in advance! :D

ok,first of all thanks for the reply's guy's!!!
My system specs :
MSI 865PE NEO-L (duh :D )
P4c 2.6Ghz FSB800 with boxed cooler.
Maxtor 30GB 7200RPM
2x256 DDR400 ram
GF4 TI4200 64mb
Q-tec 400W dual fan.
DVD drive (lite-on 16xdvd ,52cd-rom)
CDRW drive(lite-on 52-32-52)
As said,with corecenter or other MSI software almost directly 45C° Even the heatsink is not warm then.
(stressed 58-60C°)
Speedfan gives me more then one temp..
HD0 : 23C° this should be the harddisk temp i think.
Temp1 : 29C° this should be the system temm or case temp.
Temp 2 : 42C° this should be the CPU temp.
All these readings are IDLE temps.
And i think those are the wright temps...
(ps,sorry for my bad english,if you don't understand something,please ask :D )
And Naviblue,nice overclock you got there!

875P Neo CPU Temps!!!

I am very upset that the 875P neo is reporting CPU temps in the BIOS 47 to 51 degrees IDLE! Why?? This sucks! ;(

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Originally posted by Hudiny
BIOS 1.32 = 1.3 Beta 2
BIOS 1.3 = 1.3 Final
I read this after my Posting, that my Bios 1.32 is an Beta Bios, sorry . I flashed the new Bios, and the Bios works Fine :D. I hope MSI update the ICH5/R-Bios in the next Bios Version. Abit has updatet this Bios. I have trouble with 2 SATA-Seagate Harddisks :(. I must test at the new Bios 1.3 for my ICH5/R Problems.....My Problem

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question regarding CPU temps and latest bios (1.8)

I'd believe the first bios's temps more than the second...
However what temps are given when using speed fan and/or everest? (in windows)

[solved] One more conky question (convert cpu temp from C to F)

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Last edited by Mr_ED-horsey (2011-07-21 01:26:16)

What's the output of
cat /sys/bus/pci/drivers/k10temp/0000:00:18.3/temp1_input
? It should read about 55 C.
I have no idea how the sensors work, I've never used them, but you can doublecheck the conversion using just about anything, even google: http://www.google.pl/search?q=55+c+in+f … =firefox-a

Question regarding CPU temps and latest bios (1.8)

Hi, just build my first system using an MSI board. The K8N Neo2 Platinum with an A64 3500+ Venice. It came with bios version 1.5 and everything went smooth. Been running stable for a few days now. Cpu temps were anywhere from 38 (idle) to 50-54 under load. Though most of the time they were in the mid 40's. Which are acceptable temps.
Anyway, I just installed the latest bios tonight (1.8) and the reported temps have drooped significantly. Around 27c (idle), which is actually lower than the reported system temp (28c). One of the listed fixes for Bios 1.8 are cpu temps, but can these be correct? They seem very low. Which temps should I believe?
Thanks

I'd believe the first bios's temps more than the second...
However what temps are given when using speed fan and/or everest? (in windows)

Question regarding my CPU temp.

Hi, i got a AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 2.2GHz CPU on a MSI K8N SLI Platinum nForce4 SLI Motherboard.
Yesterday i installed Speedfan to check my CPU temp and it's been as high as 64 degrees. Is this too much or is it normal? My GPU (Geforce 7800GTX) is around the same temp also.

Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 03-December-06, 21:52:54
hello,
64C for CPU is pretty high. is that idle or full load temp? are CPU is using stock vcore?
what CPU cooling system you have?
its possible to be just a wrong sensor reading.
get CoreTemp and check it temp from there: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/
It's only when playing games, it usually don't get above 59 degrees though. When Idle, it's about 45 degrees. I only use the cooling system that's on the motherboard, don't know what it's called though.
Here's the temps after exiting the game for about 2 min http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/Skylinee/Temps.jpg
Cools down pretty quick.

865PE Neo2-PFS + Bios 3.A0: CPU Temp

If installed the newest bios, 3.A0:
This should fix my temp problems.
But what's a good temp for a Pentium 4 3.0E? (Prescott)
I'm using a boxed cooler (What's a good (Silent) replacement?)
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 57°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 40°
Please post your CPU Temp! And what kind of cooler you are using!
I haven't run a stressed temp test yet...

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Originally posted by Wolvman
If installed the newest bios, 3.A0:
This should fix my temp problems.
But what's a good temp for a Pentium 4 3.0E? (Prescott)
I'm using a boxed cooler (What's a good (Silent) replacement?)
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 57°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 40°
Please post your CPU Temp! And what kind of cooler you are using!
I haven't run a stressed temp test yet...
I'm using a kingwin Arctic Liquid Cooler
First hour:
CoreCenter: Average CPU Temp 41°
CoreCenter: Case Temp 40°
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NB Temp question

Hey
I overclocked my cpu from 2.8 ghz to 3.2 ghz.
My cpu temp is normal 38°C and stressed 50°C but my NB temp is 55°C,
is this to high or is it ok
Greetz

When asking a question about your motherboard it is best if you tell us what board you have. You may have heard we are psychic's, but that is not correct - we are mostly just psycho's
Since this question arises most often for the 865PE Neo2 and 875P Neo boards, I assume you have one of these. These boards don't actually have an NB sensor installed, so the displayed temperature is meaningless. Read P4 Neo Unofficial Guide

865PE Neo Stability issues

Having stability issues aswell as electrical ones.
First off, System specs, Not OC'ed.
865PE Neo-l (6742)(BIOS 1.1)
512Mb 333DDR
P4 2.40C
Asus V9560 FX 5600 (AGP 8x)
Q-Tec 400W Dual Fan Gold Low Noise (http://www.qtec.info/13352)
Maxtor 120gb 6Y120L0, 32bit transfers on.
WinXp Pro, 1 partition, SP1, Latest patches from windowsupdate.
Problem:
System is highly unstable while it is under high load, running demanding apps or games like Battlefield 1942 ( BF1942 patched to v1.4, DirectX 9.0b).
Time between lockup's is 10-15 mins. Much earlier though if
system has been running for awhile.
1.
Cpu temp rises to 68 degrees celcius under load, dont
know if this is normal. Idle 59 degrees. System temp stays around 34 degrees.
2.
PC Alert 4 latest version warns 3.3v too low.
Red letters indicate 2.93v. System has been tested with
another PSU, same response.
3.
Disabled onboard AC97 sounddevice in BIOS. BF1942 still locks up.
4.
Tested both with ASUS (Win2KXP_4471A) and NVIDIA drivers (45.23_win2kxp_international).
5.
BIOS Defaults, System tested with both Optimal and Failsafe settings.
6.
Tested swap memorysticks, from 1xVM 512mb -> TwinMos PC2700 CL2.5 256MB x2, No positive results.
7.
PC Alert 4 report system fan runs 2340rpm. vcore=1.47. +5v=5.00, +12v=11.34.
Added extra casefan to help pushning out heat, no avail.
What may it be? RMA only option?
TIA for any help.

Ok, here are the voltage readings from BIOS
VCore 1.456-72
3.3V 2.944V
+5V 5.113V
+12V 11.437-98V
-12V 11.825V
-5V 4.926V
Battery 3.088V
+5SB 4.896V
(The numbers after the hyphen '-', indicate a switching value)
The multimeter reading at a molex (yellow cable) says approx +11.79V at Win XP desktop idle and 11.68V under the game. Red cable on molex shows 5.12V while idle, no drastic change under load.
Just curious, how are the general opinions about electrical
readings. should they never go below the voltage they must
feed? Or is there room for some margin the voltage can go
below?
Havent yet tested changing videocard, will do that. Having no temperature sensors, cant check easily vga card temp.
btw, 'Apic Acpi SCI IRQ' isnt enabled in bios, is this essential?

AGP Aperture size??? and CPU temp???

1. i have changed the Aperture size to 128Mb (instead of 64) and every time i enter a game, after at least 20 minutes (sometimes less) it kicks me out back to windows.
when i played generals it told me that i might have had a hardware malfunction... which is weird cause i have a new computer.
when i returned the aperture size back to 64, it worked fine, only slower... any ideas...?
2. my CPU reached some interesting tempretures, and i have a lot of airflow... the question is this, when i'm not running any porgram (IDLE time) my cpu sits at around 43 degrees, when i do run stuff (like games, or graphic progs) my CPU rises up to 58, and i even reached 62 once...
is this logical? shouldn't P4 CPU's be cooler then AMD's? how can i force a change on the CPU cooler to work faster (when i change it through Core center the max i get is 4500rpm), can i make it higher?
thanx in advance, EagleIL.

OK,
I have just finished assembling my 865PE monster. I must say, MSI is consistent, the only issue I have seen with them is 2 things:
1. They will never learn to measure CPU temperature correctly.
2. Bios updates never seem to improve things much, or can be a disaster.
Other than that, I checked my temps, and with a side fan and a rear fan and a blower (pci slot turbo blower) out, I had 26-28 deg C at startup (cold iron). My CPU temp was 48 deg C which is physically impossible, and the reported case temp was 38 deg C in the bios but 28 deg c on my independent temp system.
I rearranged everything with side out and reversed one of the rears to blow in, and I have a steady 22-23 deg c after 6 hours. The CPU still reads 48 deg c and climbes to 50-52 under load. The reported case temp is still 38 deg c and climbs 1-2 deg. So I do not believe the temp readings.
I also do not believe all the hogwash about the CPU coolers. The stock Intel cooler has always worked fine for me, and I remember a report that said it was one of the best, in a test against a bunch of them a year or so back. There is good reason for this (I work for Intel, so I know it is not made up): They package the cooler with thier retail chips and also provide them to OEMs. They have to take all the measures possible to ensure the CPU survives the 3 year warranty and the only thing (99%) that will kill a CPU is heat. The heat removal rate of the stock heat sink is sufficient to overcome even the extra heat from OC'ing for the most part, as they test it for that. I believe the rates are posted on the website.
I would say the AGP issue is possibly related to heat effecting the memory on your agp card, or a software issue with the AGP drivers themselves. I would reccomen you revert to another card and try the same scenario if you can. There may be issues using the 128 setting itself.
Good luck. I thought this board would be a nightmare, but it has performed flawlessly with XP Pro, 2.6C, 512 meg ram (CL3!!!)(Elixer), and a Radeon 9000 Pro. I loaded Office XP Pro/Frontpage/Adobe and ran all three with no issues at the same time.
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Vcore and CPU Temp

Hi Guys,
Is it safe to run the CPU Vcore at 1.6V for long term day to day use ? I need this voltage to keep my system stable (i.e. running 2 X Prime 95 for over 24 hrs). On some fourms, I was told it is ok so long as the voltage don't go above 1.65V yet on another fourm, I was told never to exceed 1.58V. Not too sure which one to trust so will just try on this MSI fourm
Has anyone actually measure the CPU temp with an external temperature probe and compare the result with the temp. reading off the mobo (i.e. thru' corecentre, Speedfan etc) ? I'm just wondering how accurate are those temp reported by the MSI mobo ...
My current temp via Speedfan running 2 X P95 (100% load):
CPU: 53C-54C
System Temp: 32C
Room Temp: 24C
NB: 51C
If I switch off my aircon, my CPU temp could shoot up to 57C to 58C at room temp of 28C-29C.
I think the above temp is a bit on the high side (as compared to ASUS board) hence I'm questioning the accuracy of the mobo temp reading...
Here is my rig:
P4 2.4C @ 3.2 GHz
MSI 875P NEO FIS2R
Thermalright SP-94 with 80mm TT SF2 Fan
Corsair 3200LL PRO 512Mb X 2
Ratio 5:4
RAM Timing: 2-3-2-5-8
PNY FX5800
2 X WD 120GB SATA HDD
TDK DVDRW0404N Dual Format Writer
Audigy 2 Sound Card
480W Antec True Power
Thermaltake Xaser III V2000A Alu Casing

Ok, I've taken out the Audigy card, and no, I still need to pump up my Vcore to 1.6V to keep Prime 95 stable.
If Vcore = 1.525V, 2 X P95 fails within the first hour.
If Vcore = 1.5875V, 2 X P95 fails after 13 hrs.
So I guess my mobo is not affected by the Audigy card
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Originally posted by Triodeman
Hmmmm...this is indeed new to me, never know this Audigy card can do such wonder.
But than again ... I need this card to play Need For Speed - Underground
Just wonder if the Audigy card is so power hungry that it draw so much current from the mobo that one need to increase the Vcore and Vdimm to keep things stable...
With the Audigy card, my voltage settings are:
Vcore: 1.6V
Vdimm: 2.7V
VAGP: default voltage
DOT: Disabled
MAT: Turbo
Will see if I could maintain at default Vcore if i remove the card.
Thanks for replying.
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Originally posted by epacifist
It's your Audigy card ;-(
I can get very stable overclocks with my 2.4C at much lower VCore and VDimm voltages if I just remove the Audigy card.
I have to keep my VCore at 1.70V with the Audigy installed. My CPU is idle at 32-35 degrees, so I'm not too worried about it dying on me (plus, it's only a cheap 2.4C).
Just to give you an idea, I'm running the following:
2.4C at 3.0 GHz (250 FSB)
MSI 875P-FIS2R (BIOS: 1.8)
1GB Mushkin Level II (5:4, 333MHz @ 2-2-2-6)
SoungBlaster Audigy
DOT: Disabled
MOT: Fast
VCore: 1.70V
VDimm: 1.85V
VAGP: 1.70V
Now, *WITHOUT* the Audigy card, the same system works stable at:
DOT: Disabled
MOT: Ultra-Turbo
VCore: 1.60V (possibly even lower)
VDimm: 1.70V
VAGP: 1.60V
I know it sounds hard to believe, but *Reilly* will definitely back this claim up. Just take the Audigy card out and see what your results are. ALSO, I have read postings in ASUS board forums that PCI slot 3 works much better with the Audigy than any other. Can't confirm that, though.
Post your results!!!!

CPU Temp over 100 C with only iPhoto Open on Late 2011 MBP

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What's Happening:
Since Upgrading my Late 2011 model Macbook Pro to Mountain Lion 10.8.2 and the latest releas of iPhoto, CPU temps jump to 100 deg Celsius and fan speed maxes out at 6200 RPM when iPhoto is opened.
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Can a bubble in thermal paste make CPU temp range 39ºC-60ºC?

Hello.
I've read the postits above and they say 45 ºC idle is very likely the heatsink spreader is not properly seated or the temperature is wrong.
But, what if idle temp is about 39 on the heatsink (meassured with a termometer) and the bios says CPU temp is 39? Does that mean I did well with thermal paste and heatsink? Does that mean the motherboard is reading the righ temperature?
It could look like I am asking a very easy question, but I feel it is not. Just go on reading.
I need to know if BIOS does actually provide the rigth temp because:
When the system heats up due to CPU under heavy load, CPU temp goes up to 50-55 ºC sometimes even close to 60 ºC. Could that mean there is an air bubble within the thermal paste but it is too small to interfere when cold enough (40ºC) but big enough when warm (50ºC) lowering heatsink performance and rising CPU temp up to 60 ºC?
Also sys temp is very high. It never gets below 50 ºC but I do not know where that sys temp is taken, and as I have the NB-fan connector conected to the power supply fan, I do not know what that sys temp means. :(
Room temp is around 25 ºC.
It does boot OS and I can actually play games (heavy load for graphics card and CPU). All readings I take were got from CoreCenter application at stock settings (Vcore 1.42 - FSB 201 - Mem volt 2.5 - AGP volt 1.5).
I am afraid of having done a nice job with thermal paste. I know (just read it here) I could easily fry the CPU if not, and I feel 55-60 ºC is too much, isn't it? Of course if BIOS readings are right.
BTW. Here follow details on the system:
CPU: AMD 64 3000+ NewCastle
CPU Family/Model/Step: 15.12.0
Thermal compound: Artic Silver 5
CPU Heatsink: Thermaltake Silent Boost K
Motherboard: MSI K8N Platinum
Motherboard BIOS: 1.4 (08/26/2004)
Graphics Card: Sapphire ATI Radeon 9800 SE AIW (not modded in any way)
Power Supply: Enermax 465 W [EG-465AX-VE(W)FMA]
Case: Lian Li PC-V1000
Mem, hdd, dvd-rw, floppy and D-bracket are present but did not feel necesary to provide details on them.
Thanks

Well, if your heatsink is cold and your CPU temp on BIOS is hot there are two possible reassons:
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BIOS 1.4 does not guarantee accurate CPU temp readings
Heatsink is not properly seated on the CPU or thermal paste has bubbles within[/list=1]
But that is not my situation. I do know CPU readings are accurate when it shows 39 ºC because I actually used a termometer in contact with the heatsink to meassure it.
What I am not sure is if that accuracy is so when the CPU is hot (>50ºC) as it is when cold (

CPU Temp spike to 120c for no apparent reason. Help!

Hi,
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Well, I've taken it in to my local Mac repair shop. I'm wondering if the coolant is coming from my power supply (which is under warranty and was replaced 2 months ago), or if it's a separate component. I know this is a known issue with the liquid cooled G5s, and I hope that whatever is wrong will be fixed!!
When I was carrying it out to my car to transport today the coolant leaked all over my floor. I had both my dogs indoors and I didn't notice the trail of liquid till I got back (almost an hour later). I really hope neither of them licked up any of it! Between this and the potential fire hazard I'm almost starting to question on whether or not I even want it fixed. I'm literally afraid of my computer..lol.
I should be hearing back from the repair shop tomorrow. Fingers crossed this leak didn't fry my cpus and logic board. At temps like that I don't see how it couldn't!
Thanks to all of you for your help!

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