CPU Thermal Sensor

I have MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR mobo. Under my CPU ( inside socket ) I have external thermal probe. Why ? It is not thermal probe DIODE inside CPU ? My temp reach 46 stby and 51 max 52 in all games or test.
Regards
Mike
PS. Sorry for my English

Hi,
bijurom: Well yout temps look OK anyway
As far as your second post is concerned I don't understand what you are asking. If you are asking, whether or not you need to update (flash) the BIOS - the answer would be - only if you need to!
If your computer is running OK without a BIOS update then leave it the way it is!
If you are having problems, and the only way to fix the problem is to update the BIOS - then do so!
Either that, or you are saying that you have updated the BIOS and it's running OK?
Axel

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Hello,
I searched the forum for this information, but could not find any information. Please excuse me if this post is redundant.
I have a K7N2 (MS-6570) MB. I am using Motherboard Monitor and am trying to find out which thermal sensors are used to monitor which devices. I am also wanting to know the physical locations of these sensors. My current assumption is that sensor 1 in the Athlon core diode, sensor 2 is the CPU Socket, and sensor 3 is the general case temp. Can I be confirmed or corrected on this?
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Shoes
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