CPU Throttling New GT70 2PC GTX 870

Hello friends. I noticed something odd on my new laptop. I have encountered a few of the issues that others have mentioned with regards to wireless and believe I have mostly resolved that but have since started to notice performance issues that corresponds with events in the windows logs stating that the CPU is getting throttled. This occurs both during non intensive use at sometimes random times other times while it is in heavy use.
I assume its due to overheating which would be rather unfortunate since this is a brand new machine.
According to MSI Live update the bios version is E1763IMS.50T
The mainboard is MS-1763
I have not updated anything but the drivers.
I am considering updating the EC and BIOS but wanted to confirm there actually are updated versions prior to heading down that path. I am not sure if there may be voltage or other performance updates etc that would help in a newer version of the bios. The naming convention is a bit confusing and when I use the MSI Live update tool is claims there is not a new version of bios available.
Thanks for any suggestions.

After some testing I have noticed a pattern that directly coincides with the events logged in event viewer that aligns with what seems to be throttling of the CPU and GPU as reported using coretemp and GPUZ.
I have saved one such incident in a PDF which I can post. I tried looking for ways to insert an attachment to the forums and was not able to.
The event log error is "The speed of processor 0 in group 0 is being limited by system firmware. The processor has been in this reduced state for 28 seconds since the last report."
I have correlated the time of these events with the temps for processor core 2 hitting 71 and reducing core speed (below 2300) and power for all cores (19). I have also been able to correlate with the GPU reducing clock speed from 966 to 270,and gpu memory from 1248 to 162 with temps at around 70.
So it seems that while the temps are really not that bad there is still some kind of throttling taking place within the BIOS that is causing lags while running applications. This pattern above is recurring 2-3 minutes apart.
If I can figure out how to post a file I can post the PDF I created.
Thanks for any additional feedback.

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GT70 2PC Dominator GTX870M. games running at less than 20fps

i added an SSD (samsung 250gb) to my new GT70 2PC Dominator GTX870M.
i formatted the HDD.
i installed a fresh Windows 8 on the SSD. (the HDD had windows 8.1)
i installed all the drivers. and updated them and updated windows.
Bioshock Infinite runs at less than 20fps at medium setting. totally unplayable.
Assassin's Creed 4 Freedom Cry runs at 15fps at low settings. also totally unplayable.
battlefield 4 runs fine Ultra 1080p ~ 60fps.
what is wrong? this cant be normal. i see videos people playing them at Ultra settings with 40fps+
could it be that the Intel Graphics card is taking over and the GTX870M not kicking in?

Yup it might be that.
Go through Nvidia Control Panel and for Global Settings set GTX to be used.
Make sure that you're running newest drivers too, as this might be the problem (even games' updates/patches )

Can i upgrade me GT70 2PC dominator whit gtx 870m gpu to gtx 970m?

I have http://dragonarmy.msi.com/home/weapons/GT70-2PC-Dominator can i upgrade me GPU to GTX 970m?

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If your warranty was vaild and you did this then if laptop breaks soon or any issues occures you wont get any warranty repairs then it will cost you for it. So best is to avoid doing any modifications on system for now and let it be or let MSI Service do it for you so your warranty isnt voided.
I am aware of that, however, I have yet to have a single MSI laptop break on me over the past 5 years of ownership and 3 different laptops. I have modded and swapped out CPUs and GPUs on all of them without a single issue. As long as you know what you're doing and have PC building and mod experience you should be OK. However, the issue comes when people don't know what they're doing and mess something up.
MSI makes a sturdy machine, and there is no reason why upgrading your graphics card to a card that is also supported by your model should cause any sort of issue.

GT70 2PC – Software testing and performance report.

It is so excited here again. Currently, my first/only object after work is playing Titanfall.
I intended to share another performance testing today. But I didn’t. I found there are too many great open box posts on different forums. Therefore, I decide to dig the MSI software compatibility and do a touring. What can I say? I’m Mr.Curiosity who really desires to know every built-in application in system. That is why I share this article with you, my friends. I would like to discuss with everybody who is interested in MSI software. Of course, I have some performance reports for you, too. Please also remind me if you find any typo/wrong in this post. Thanks in advance.
1. MSI Boot Configure
This is the first software which pops up immediately. It is thoughtful design because we can choose enter the [Windows 8.1 metro] or [desktop] by ourselves now. I give it two thumbs up!!!
Select your favorite boot configuration and press [OK]. If we want it work immdiately, we can logout the system and re-login again.
2.   MSI Remind Manager
Honestly, I didn’t know what it is in the beginning. The cute robot shows every time when I login the system. I found this is a reminder for product registration. Good, I would like to have best MSI support and warranty for my lovely GT70 2PC. But don’t worry, if you don’t want to get this message again, you just need to select the right option and close it.
3.   Synaptics TouchPad
This is a driver for mouse. [Mouse property] will show if we do the double clicks on TouchPad icon in tray. You can choose enable/disable internal pointing device when external pointing device is attached. This is brilliant. A tough guy (like me…HA! HA!) didn’t like to play game with touchpad. Because the character in game will be weak and slow if I control it by touchpad. Of course, I need the external mouse all the time and don’t want the interference from touchpad.
4.   System Control Manager (SCM)
We can enable/disable the WLAN/BT/camera devices by SCM. Besides, it can control the display brightness, volume, screen on/off and ECO. ECO is special mode for gaming watching movie.
5.   Sound Blaster CINEMA
Sound Blaster CINEMA is come from an old school audio company – CREATIVE. The software can adjust the surround sound easily. We also can adjust 5.1/7.1 surround sound for the internal speakers and external headphone. That is great, isn’t it?
Besides, we can also adjust CRYSTALIZER/BASS/SMART VOLUME/digital output by ourselves.
6.   Killer Network Manager
This is a major feature of MSI NB.
In Killer Network Manager, we can set the network priority for each of applications and we also can abandon the connection from malicious software.
[Performance] shows current status of network. We can find out which application occupied the most greedy resources by it.
[Network -> Test Network Speed] will detect the network environment automatically. Furthermore, it will adjust the priority for applications.
[Killer Ethernet] show the LAN connection info.
[Killer Wireless] show the router info.
7.   SteelSeries Engine
This is another major feature of MSI NB
If we do the right click on icon in tray, the menu will show following list. We can select [Launch SteelSeries Firmware Update Tool], [Updates]…and so on.
If we select the [Settings]. It can help us change default language and set application auto running when system power on.
I.   Buttons
Double click to open the SteelSeries Engine. I think it can set 4 different keyboard settings for each of profiles. And it can switch by FN+1~4.
[Keypress Marc] can record what you input. And [Record Delays ] can modify the delay time. HA! No game can block us anymore. Please remember to press the [SAVE] for your setting
[Launch Application] can launch any application immediately. I suggest to set the cold key for this function.
Here is example. I use [PgUp] to quick start the 3D Mark11. See, it will pop up when I pressed [PgUp].
It is simple to use [TextMarco] set our own phrase. Now I become a quick speaker in my team. One key, only one key can help me to type a lot of words.
Are you tired to press some keys that you never want to touch in game (Like WIN KEY)? It is not the problem now. [Disable Key] will do the favor and disable any key which you hate.
II.   [Colors] can change the color of backlight keyboard. Also, you can set different modes (Gaming/Audio…etc) on it.
We can change the color zone. There is not only 4 or 5 colors. The engine provides thousands of colors for us. [Audio mode] is the coolest. It will change colors by itself when we play music by speakers. I like to dance with my keyboard.
III.   We can select different languages by [Settings].
IV.   [Properties] can save our hard works of settings reliably.
V.   If you want to defeat your competitors, it is important to know your enemy. However, It is more important to know yourself. [Statistics] can help us observe which keys are most popular by our fingers.
Right click on [Profile]. It can modify/export/import/delete the profiles.
Mouse can use the same kind of settings as keyboard.
DPI setting for mouse.
Save files.
We can record the mouse, too.
8.   Norton
Norton Internet Security: Anti-Virus software, MSI provides 60 days for free.
Norton Online Backup: Online data backup software, MSI provides 30 days for free.
Norton Anti-Theft: Anti-Theft software, MSI provides 30 days for free.
If you like Norton’s products, you can buy it online.
If you don’t, I believe we can uninstall it directly.
So, the decision is ours.
Introduction from Norton official website
9.   Dragon Gaming Center
I.   System Monitor:
It can monitor CPU/GPU loading and temperature. We also can find the network speed and fan speed in it.
II.   Utility:
You can set your favorite apps in [Add new Utility].
E.g. I added a [MSI Afterburner]. Click [Open] to build the link. Do you feel familiar with something? Exactly, [Launch Application] of [SteelSeries Engine] can do this, too.
III.   Instant Play:
We can define [Fn+F4] to enable the quick start. But there is more secret.
We can also use [Browse] to assign the game which we want.
Click the icon of game and [Fn+F4] will be ready. We can only use 1 program at once.
I usually change the brightness, volume and mouse sensitive before the game. As you know, every games are different. It is sweet because we can use [Apply Setting] to do this.
I can’t believe it. We also can find the clock feature in it. How convenient it is!
IV.   Hybrid Power is another MSI feature.
It can provide the power by AC adapter and battery in the same time. We can monitor the status in here.
10. BurnRecovery
It can create the recovery CD/DVD/USB for MSI NB.
Here can select Recovery disc/USB/ISO.
I will make a ISO file first.
We can select where to put the ISO.
Creating the recovery file...
Finish!
Open the folder and we can find 4 ISO files in it.
Well…[BurnRecovery Help] provide the details spec.
In my opinion, everyone should create their own recovery image. You will need it in one day.
11. Battery Calibration
This is software for battery calibration. In order to keep our battery good, we should do the calibration every three months. Don’t forget to plug-in the AC adapter and battery during the process..
Press [Start] to begin the process. It will make the battery fully charged first.
Then, it will empty the battery like this.
System will shut down after the empty process. At last, fully charged again. It will take 4~5 hrs to complete the process.
12. MSI Dragoon Army /MSI Facebook /Web site /YouTube
Those are MSI forums/Facebook/official website/YouTube and links.
[MSI Dragoon Army] is the official forum for MSI. We can find NB, MB and AIO info in it.
Facebook Quick Link for many countries of world.
MSI official website
YouTube channel of MSI.
13. Super-Charger
There is no message when I click this app at the first time. But when I attached my IPAD, it pops up the [Super-Charger]. It is amazing because IPAD can’t be charge by this USB port. As far as I know, the USB 3.0 only provides maximum 900mA for its device. IPAD will need 2.1A for charge process. I have no idea how MSI NB make IPAD charging okay.
14. XSplit GameCaster
This is one of important features. I saw many different first class gaming machines this year. All of them have the broadcast software. (Like PS4, Xbos ONE)
It can switch the default language after we login.
Twitch/YouTube / Facebook/ Twitter/Google+ can be used by [Accounts]. It is easy to start the live show.
We can modify the resolution and use twitch by [Setting]
We can configure FPS/CPU loading/where to show on display by [Status label].
Hotkey configuration.
Videos storage.
Press [Ctrl+Tab] to call Gamecaster in game. And we can twitch or modify setting. I will provide my gaming video for you later.
15. Power DVD
This is a famous video player. Also, it can support BD format.
We can use the [Setting] to change our language.
We can change 5 times for default country .
It is glad that I’ve finished the introduction of GT70 software.
Performance report:
Um…Now is late at night. I should go to my lovely bed. Following is the testing report for the reference.
1.   FurMark
1920*1080, 15 minutes.
2.   AIDA 64
CPU and GPU stress testing, 30 minutes.
3. 3D Mark 11
4. 3DMark Vantage
5.   3DMark 2013
6.   Heaven Benchmark 4.0
7.   CINBENCH 11.5
8.   FINAL FANTASY XIV Benchmark
9.   PCMARK 7
10.   HD Tune Pro 5.50
11.   AS SSD Benchmark
12. Crystal Disk Mark
I didn’t forget my promise. Here is my gaming videos
http://youtu.be/tCd5Lnj2U0I

Editors' Choice Award. Good job MSI !!
http://www.computershopper.com/laptops/reviews/msi-gt70-dominator-893#review-body

Issues with a GT70-2PC Dominator

Morning everyone.
I am an italian customer who has recently bought an MSI GT70-2PC Dominator. I am kinda new to the mobile gaming thing, so please apologize me for whatever you judge unappropriate.
As I stated in the topic subject above, I'm having some performance issues on this laptop while I'm gaming.. I'm talking about lag and throttling. The game I've been testing is Ghost recon Phantoms (online FPS), but it's not very high-resource demanding, compared to last gen titles.. so I shouldn't have problems running it!
I have updated all the common drivers expect for a couple of them i'm not really sure about updating.. basically when I went to the msi download page for my laptop, there is one tab which displays 'firmware' - and contains not only firmwares, but also a vga bios.
I have not updated:
BIOS
VBIOS
Firmware
My questions are:
N.A) Is updating these drivers gonna improve my overall laptop performance?
1) Which bios should i update? 50y or 70y? I don't use raid, i'm asking just to be sure
2) How can i update the VBIOS? I couldn't find a tutorial for it, can you explain it to me?
3) How can i update the firmware? And which one of the twos (1513 and 2513) should i install? Again, can't find a tutorial for this.
I have Win 8.1 as OS.
Hope to solve my issues as soon as possible so I can start enjoying my new laptop! Thanks in advance guys.

I'll start with my normal speech....
How do you know it was throttling? You don't give any temperature information or anything else.....
What color was your power button when you were gaming? If it was white....well, you were using the Intel iGPU and not the NVidia, which would explain why you were seeing lagging and what you thought was 'throttling'.
I saw this recently myself when I ran Brutal Legend for the first time....it was still using the Intel iGPU. As soon as I setup the NVidia driver to switch for the game, suddenly everything worked AWESOMELY, and it was great.
Give a bit more information (specifically temperature, and color of the power button. Use MSI Afterburner if you need to) and we'll see what the next steps should be.

GT70 2PC - WLAN problem

Good day,
I recently bought a GT70 2PC with the following specs:
processor: i7 4810MQ 2.8 GHz
RAM: 8GB
graphics: Nvidia GTX870M
Ethernet: Killer e2200 Gigabit ethernet controller
WLAN: Killer Wireless-N 1202 Network adapter
The problem:
I connect to the internet via wireless. When I play specific games I experience lag spikes (latency not FPS). Specifically League of Legends. I experience 30 ping constant, and then every 1-2 minutes it jumps to 500+ for 2-3 seconds and then goes back down. It is extremely frustrating. I tried playing Diablo 3 and didnt experience this, so I think it might possibly be specific to League of Legends. Just to note again, I have 100+ FPS constant, its not a graphics problem.
The troubleshooting ive already done:
This is not an issue with my fiber optic internet connection. I connect the laptop via ethernet cable and then the problem doesnt occur. I also used to play on my old laptop on the same internet connection without the lag spikes via wifi. I game far from my router so getting a cable is not a good solution, I paid an arm and a leg for this laptop I should be able to play on wifi if I want to. This also cancels out that it may be any other software causing the issue, its a fresh install in any case.
There is a sticky post called How to fix issues with Killer Lan/WLan. I followed the steps and currently do not have the Killer software installed, I only have the drivers installed. However, this did not help at all. I did this procedure 3 times out of desperation. Did not work for me.
I contacted MSI support. They told me to update my graphics drivers after I made it clear this is a latency issue. (I updated the graphics drivers the day I got the laptop in any case.). I responded to there feedback but they are taking long to get back to me, I am really hoping someone on this forum might be able to help.
I checked resource monitor and also used software called Process Monitor to log all CPU and network usage while I was playing. The lag spikes were not visible in this data to my knowledge.
I tried toggling bandwidth control on and off when I still used to have the Killer software installed.
My thoughts:
The fact that there is a post about people having issues with the Killer WLan makes me think that the wireless network adapter (or its drivers) are definitely the problem. However, after trying the fix in the sticky post and it not working makes it feels quite hopeless at this point. I do have the latest drivers installed. I feel like my only option is to wait for new drivers to be released and just hope that its fixed in the new drivers, but who knows how long that will take. Im thinking of sending the laptop back to where I bought it from but if this is a known issue affecting all laptops, id probably have the same problem with a replacement. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!

Hi Svet,
Thanks for the link but unfortunately it did not solve the problem. According to device manager the driver version has gone up to 10.0.0.287, but the lag spikes are still exactly the same.
Further, I installed a game called Day of Defeat, to test if this is a problem specific to League of legends or if its a general problem. I have the lag spikes in Day of Defeat as well so its not game specific.
Do you think it could be the Killer Network software causing this? Again I tried with bandwidth control on and off. Is there any way I could get these drivers without the Killer software or do you have any other possible solutions I can try?

GT70 2PC: 870M does not activate, benchmarks and performance ingame confirm this

I bought myself a GT70 2PC Dominator (the SSD version) with an 870M inside, and after starting several games, checking benchmarks and comparing framerates to my current desktop machine (which has an i5 2500K and a GTX 770), I find that, even after configuring the machine to prefer the "powerful Nvidia processor", and setting all games to use the Nvidia processor, it still uses the 4600 processor. I'm getting rather low framerates, I'm not hearing any fan speed increase, Benchmarks ingame like the one from Sleeping Dogs still report the 4600 GPU and some games won't even boot up properly (like Just Cause 2). I did configure all the games to use the Nvidia GPU in my Nvidia Control panel, I updated my drivers, Device manager is finding both cards.
Is there a way to tell my laptop "Look, I don't care about saving my battery, I don't care about noise, I don't care about heat (as long as it does not damage anything), just ALWAYS use the Nvidia GPU, even when it's not needed, so I can actually have some enjoyment out of the 1600 EUR I spent on this machine"?

Check your power button light and see if it lights red(red=dgpu, white=igpu) and make sure you've attached battery with AC plugged while playing games.
Fan speed is changing by different cpu/gpu temperature, so check the temperature and the fan speed in Dragon Gaming Center and compare the temperature and the fan speed under different situation.
Can you tell the graphics driver version you're using? (both Intel and NVIDIA one)
Sadly for the Optimus structure, you can't disable the single graphics but you should be able to use the dGPU to run the game. Except the settings in NVIDIA Control Panel, you can also try to right click on the shortcut of the game and choose "run with graphics processor"> "High-performance NVIDIA processor"

GT70 2PC Dominator Fan issue

Well, I purchased a GT70 2PC-1631NL laptop 2 weeks ago and I'm having an fan issue. It appearently is constantly cycling on and off every 10 seconds or so, while Dragon Gaming Center reports that the Fan RPM is 0. I also noticed the Temperature of the cpu in Dragon Gaming Center to fluctuate randomly and very inconsistent between 30 and 45 Degrees Celcius.
THis Fan spinning issue happens several seconds after starting up the laptop and even happens in the BIOS menu and it is very annoying. Updated all the drivers, reinstalled Dragon Gaming Center and ECM but nothing seemed to help.
Anyone else experienced anything like this before?

Didn't try that, but considering it happens when the laptop is in BIOS mode, I doubt it is software related. So I already got it packed and sending it of on an RMA to Poland tomorrow. (I'm lazy when it comes to fixing my own stuff, when it is this new :p)
Just wondered if anyone had experienced anything like it.

My solution (or so I thought) to Power Manager/CPU throttling problems!!!

I have found a solution to all my Power Manager/CPU throttling problems!!! Though there is some good and bad news.
{EDIT: The problem has NOT been fixed, even after latest PowerManager (3.62) and BIOS (1.30) versions. Pretty much ignore anything I say below as the problem is still occurring. You can see my full post here: http://forum.lenovo.com/t5/W-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/W520-Speedstep-not-working-properly-on-battery-...}
Good news: I have NONE of the throttling issues or inconsistent CPU frequency problems I was having before on AC or battery power. Everything, including TurboBoost on battery works! It is completely fixed! (I have no idea how this factors into Lenovo’s statements that TurboBoost is disabled on battery “by design”. There is at least one other post from someone else that also reported TurboBoost was working for them on battery)
Bad news: I don’t really know which one of the many things I tried actually worked. I am sorry I wasn’t more methodical about recording what I did and checking results, but this was my last ditch effort to get this fixed on my own without sending the system in for repair and frankly, I didn’t think it would work. Now that it has worked, I’m hoping my steps can help others.
For anyone interested, here’s what I did… and before anyone says something like “That has nothing to do with managing power/cpu, why would that help?!… etc., please keep in mind I’m just stating exactly what I did. I am aware some of the steps may not be relevant, but who knows… We all know how weird PC’s are sometimes, even the smallest, oddest thing may resolve a problem.So anyway, here goes.
**IMPORTANT** Not sure how many noticed, but there was a new version of Power Manager released a few weeks ago, 3.62. The PM driver seems to have stayed the same. That alone could very well be the sole fix, I’m not sure. You may just want to completely remove PM and PM driver and install the latest version before trying any of the steps below.
1)Made a complete system image via Windows built-in backup feature
2)Disable any 3rd party fan/CPU control utilities (Throttlestop, etc). Make sure they are also not going to run at startup or from a scheduled task
3)Remove Power Manager Driver, then remove Power Manager software
4)Reboot to Windows
5)Remove all traces of the Power Manager drivers/software directories (think it was something like C:\readyapps and C:\drivers.) **For some odd reason after I did this, my wireless stopped working but it resolved itself by the time I was done with these steps, strange
6)Reboot
7)Access BIOS and reset all settings to default
8)Boot into Windows, downgrade to BIOS 1.25 [UEFI: 1.25 - 8BET44WW / ECP: 1.14 8AHT32WW ] via the Windows flash utility. I wanted to downgrade all the way back to 1.06, but the software would throw up some error for any version prior to 1.25 and wouldn’t proceed
9)Reboot to Windows; make sure system booted w/ out issues
10)Reboot again, access BIOS, reset to defaults again
11)Shut down system
12)Disconnect AC power. Remove main battery. Access and disconnect system backup (a.k.a CMOS) battery under keyboard. Discharge residual power in the system (there are various ways to do this, but you could just leave the battery disconnected for a few minutes). Visually inspect the system for anything funky…my system had a slightly but noticeably loose CPU/GPU heat sink/fan assembly power connector.
13)Reconnect backup battery.
14)Reconnect AC power but leave main battery disconnected.
15)Power on. Should get a message indicating “checksum error, system time reset” or something like that.
16)Reboot to Windows. Verified still okay.
17)Downloaded latest BIOS version, 1.26. This time I burned the bootable BIOS flash CD instead of running it through Windows.
18)Restart and boot from disc, flash BIOS to 1.26. Once complete, restart. Verify BIOS set to defaults.
19)Boot back into Windows.
20)Install latest Power Manager driver (1.62 ), reboot if/as prompted. Install Power Manager (3.62), reboot as prompted.
21)Boot into Windows, verified Power Manager was active and working. Verified TurboBoost was working. Restarted system a few times and played around with Power Manager for a bit to see if the different power plans worked and retained the settings, all the while monitoring the Intel TurboBoost utility and PM’s own “power gauges”. Let system Sleep, changed power sources, resumed, etc. Everything was working great.
22)Shutdown, reconnect main battery. Booted into Windows. Again, fiddled with Power Manager for a bit, switching between power plans and AC/battery power. Still worked great.
23)Success!
That’s it. Again, this is not a guaranteed fix guide. These are just simply the steps that I took on my system that resolved the problems many of us are having. Hopefully it will work for others.
T520 4239-CTO | i5 2410M
W520 4270-CTO | 2720QM | 16GB RAM | Quadro 1000M | BIOS 1.30 | PwrMgr 3.62

All I basically did was download and install...
(Chipset driver) http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/oss924ww.exe
(PM driver) http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/83ku14ww.exe
Now, I did chipset first (didnt ask to reboot) then installed the PM driver (did ask to reboot)
I rebooted.... then I went into bios (1.26) and set everything to default... then restarted saving changes...
Since I prefer not using optimus I changed the display settings in bios right after saving the default settings...
Not sure whether or not you really had to go into bios... but everything seems to be working...
My settings in PM is set to Maximum Power in the Advanced tab, 3rd party monitoring tools is TPFanControl and HWInfo64....
W520 (4270 CTO) | i7-2820QM | 16GB RAM 1333 MHz | Runcore MSATA SSD | 2x Kingston SATA2 SSD | Quadro 2000M | FHD | Windows 7

MSI GT70 2PC Dominator Battleship – EpisodeⅠ

[Introduction]
[Roberts are the dream of every man] one of my close fellows said. Actually, I am not a 3C fans. But it is really excited that Titan Fall is online now. So I made a tough decision that I never did it before. I purchased the [MSI GT70 2PC Dominator] with last year bounds.
[Open box article]
Finally, the shipment is coming today. It is true that now is one of my happiest moment in life. I put down all my work and start to share my new toy for everyone.
Note:
It is sad that I only have a phone next to me. Please forgive me those non-quality and non-professional pictures in article.
That is cool that we can find a big case with MSI log and an extra backpack in package.
There is MSI log on the top of box. Furthermore, I must said the Dragon log is so fashion and beautiful. That is a nice backpack which we can carry it outside anytime.
There is an extra soft layer behind the backpack. It improves the comfortable and air permeability for user.
In my own opinion, I like this kind of design.
Let’s check what surprise us in box.
We could see the label of GT70 2PC spec on the side of box.
MSI really provide the multi-protection for their products. There are two more cases inside.
We can find MSI gaming mouse/ SteelSeries SIBERIA V2 gaming headphone in box. Besides, there is a small and special box which has MSI Log. We will check it later.
All right. I think we can throw away the empty box now.
Wait a minute!!! The box is still so heavy. It must be something else that we didn’t take out.
Oh well, I see. There is a warranty service book and driver CD in the right side.
Also, battery and adapter are behind the cover.
Let’s take a family picture.
We have quick guide/MSI rromotional materials/manual for F3 recovery/driver CD for Win8.1/Warranty service book/ Windows 8.1 guide
Oh my god. There is a signet in that special box. Dragoon postmark is so elegant.
SteelSeries SIBERIA V2 Full-Size headset.
Furthermore, it supports 4 different languages. You can find the spec on its box.
Wow. MSI log is on the headphone. Totally, It is customized for MSI brand!!!
Another dragon army log on headphone.
MSI didn’t forget the inside of headphone. A beautiful shield is on it.
SteelSeries also promote this headphone on its website. It is so popular.
http://steelseries.com/products/audio/steelseries-siberia-v2
Now, let’s show SteelSeries KINZU V2 mouse.
Mouse supports 4 different languages, too. We also can find the spec on box.
However, there is no driver CD in box…LOL. How do I use it? We only can find the cute mouse and manual.
Sorry, my bad. We can download the driver and firmware from SteelSeries official website.
http://steelseries.com/products/mice/steelseries-kinzu-v2
Of course, there is a powerful dragon on mouse pad.
Take a mouse family picture.
180W adapter is just like a big strong brick. It is designed by most famous industry DELTA. You can find all kinds of safety signatures on it. It is powerful and undefeatable on playing game. But please understand that I didn’t suggest dear readers to use it as a weapon to throw/hurt people!!!
The battery is 7800mAh. And you can see all kinds of safety signatures on it.
Finally, our rock star is coming.
The laptop is surrounding by a lot of soft foams.
Huge dragon shield log on it.
Take off the black jacket. Then, we can see a nonwoven fabric inside the plastic bag.
Game start!!
This universe battle cruiser will help me dominate all my enemies in game .
We can find the security lack/power jack/ RJ45 port/D-SUB/m-DP/HDMI in back. The sales man said it can also support three external displays at same time. I must try the solution by myself when I get my new screens.
On the left side, there are USB3.0 port/Card Reader/HiFi headphone port (According to the spec, it will increase 30% audio performance). I can’t wait to listen my favorite music with it.
I didn’t forget my lovely BD. It also has BD reader/writer and 2 USB2.0 on the right side.
I can’t stop myself to take another wonderful photo with the MSI logo and upper case.
I have a feeling that my dominator is ready fight.
There is a [SteelSeries] LOGO on the left side. What a surprise it is. YA! We have SteelSeries keyboard on GT70. Absolutely, this is a gamer dream. Best Keyboard vendor SteelSeries and Top Gaming NB brand MSI are working together! It is totally worth for me.
DYNAUDIO, the leader of audio industry. As you know, BUGATTI’s sport cars use the DYNAUDIO. And MSI is the first notebook in world with this sound of Danish pride.
HA!HA!
I’m listening the best sound as rich people sitting in their sport cars. It feels great.
http://www.dynaudio.com/int/multimedia_sound/index.php
There are many thoughtful buttons on middle cover. (Power/Airplane mode/display on&off/Gaming button/Caps Luck/Num lock).
More convenience buttons, media/turbo fan/backlight LED.
We also have Bluetooth/WLAN/battery/sleep/disk indicators in front of laptop.
Here is GT70 spec and signatures form Sound Blaster CINEMA / nVIDIA /Intel.
An independent On/Off switch for touch pad.
Built-in Camera and Mic on the display.
You can see the thermal design and the battery when we check the back side.
The silver part is our bass. Just like the cannon on our battleship.
What is under the battery?
The left side is the safety signatures for GT70 and its WLAN.
The right side is Win8 LOGO and serial number.
Now we know my baby is born on February.
[Power on]
Gee!the Log is shining when the system is. power on .
The keyboard is just like the most beautiful rainbow that I’ve never seen. It is stunning. Honestly, my cheerful tear is dropping.
Anyway, Titanfall, I’m coming.
What? Something pops up when I attach the network.
What is [Killer Network Manager]?
Wow. Now I know that Killer high-performance networking products combine intelligence, control and superior networking speed for HD video, high quality audio, and online games. That’s great. I hate the evil [LAG] in game.
https://www.qca.qualcomm.com/products/killer-technology/
After the quick test, it is time to install my game.
I find a secret app in the tray of task bar during the game installation.
YA! That is SSE (Steelseries Engine). I can set my own hotkey, backlight LED and combo key with this good friend.
SSE is a smart app. It recognized my GT70 and my mouse immediately when I launch the app.
Sorry again. I was wrong because I don’t need a mouse driver. The SSE can control all of the actions. It is so sweet.
It is the time to say goodbye. Titanfall is calling. See you on battlefield!!!

Editors' Choice Award
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2457251,00.asp

MSI GT70 2PC-1044US - HDMI / GPU / FAN issues

MSI GT70 2PC-1044US - HDMI / GPU / FAN issues
I am having trouble with my HDMI port on a brand new MSI GT70 2PC-1044US . Whenever I plug my HDMI cable from my notebook to the TV, after a few minutes (5 - 20 minutes), my fan will start reving at around 5k RPMs and sounds like a jet engine. When this happens, according to MSI Dragon Gaming Center tool/monitor, the GPU temp reading hits 255 degrees Celsius, which is clearly a glitch. I used another monitor, msi afterburner, and when this HDMI problem happens, this tool reads a normal 40 degrees Celsius.
Here are the things I have tried so far but the problem keeps reoccurring:
1. Called MSI tech support, sent me the link to the newest BIOS and updated it
2. Called MSI tech support again, claimed the HDMI is controlled by the intel graphic controller, and they recommended that i update intel drivers (every software tool on my notebook says it's the NVIDIA GPU that controls the HDMI port /shrug???), so i did this as well.
3. Called MSI teck support again, they suggested I send the notebook back to MSI so they could take a look at the hardware. I did not do this because I did not trust the tech guy and did not want to wait a few weeks to get my notebook back
4. Luckily, the store I bought my notebook at was nice enough to replace my notebook for a new one. I got home, tested it, and the same thing happened. So I think we eliminated faulty hardware.
So now what? What else can I try?
i7 4800MQ 8GB 1TB 17.3in FHD GeForce GTX870M 3GB DVDRW Win 8.1 Notebook

Quote from: Svet on 11-April-14, 18:12:20
have you done EC reset? https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/how-to-reset-the-ec-embedded-controller
can you try to plug the HDMI into your dell screen[insteal of sharp TV] to check if the same issue will hapends?
Install latest Intel GPU drivers from: http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/detect/graphics
then retest
-Yes, I did the full EC reset. Once the EC flash was done, I removed the power cord from the back and the battery and let it sit for a few minutes before restarting.
- My Dell monitor is old, and does not have an HDMI port, but I will try a different cable on a different TV.
-I already have the most recent intel graphic controller drivers, this one of the things the MSI tech support guys asked me to do by phone

Help understanding what I have in my New GT70 and what can I do with it.

In the last few days I received my new gt70 from amazon. I must say I love it. Absolutely. I plan on building a supercomputer one day, but this laptop more than sufficed my immediate needs and I can save some money for a year or so. Anyways, I bought the second most expensive one right under the dragon edition bc quite frankly im not a huge lover of the color red or dragons.. (I did when I was much younger) However i went with the second most expensive bc its all black and seems to have enough on it to keep me happy.
Problem is that I really like the SSD's mine came with the 2 in raid 0 for a total of 256gb. Then I have this 1tb HDD. Now for the related questions. Can I replace the HDD with a huge SSD? That would kick ass. Also, could I or is there another slot for a 3rd SSD? What do the 2 128's look like? I want to do this without needing to remove the existing SSD's bc Im not that savvy on how to do it all. Maybe I can bring it somewhere. Im in the New Orleans area. As a side note/question. Of my 256gb a ton of space was used when I got the thing, (before adding anything) I understand startup programs and all.. and the SSD's are C: drive.. the 1TB D; HDD is missing 100gb and when u open the drive there are absolutely ZERO file folders in there.. Is everything really on my SSD's ? Whats preloaded on my HDD to take away 100gb and wheres the files?
Bottom Line I want more SSD. Money isnt a big deal.
Second set of questions. Ram. I have 24gb (sure more than enough) but if I wanted to, how would I get mine up to 32gb.. Replace everything or add to some existing empty slots?
Im pretty much cool with everything else. I have the 780m (i think is the best available at the moment) and the best cpu from MSI.. So yea, PLEASE HELP!!!

Ok I looked on the box and it does say GT70 20E.. so im good on that. And the sticker does say ram (8gbX3) so adding another stick will be childs play. (even for someone like me).. Ill just replace the HDD with the SSD asap and I guess I shouldn't worry about messing up or missing files bc you said missing 100gb with no files in there is normal.. So I just pop the old one out and put the new one in. Should be that easy. (maybe install some drivers) Ill do more research so I dont mess things up. Or get one of my super tech friends to come assist/teach me.
I also want to change out the thermal paste.
MAJOR QUESTION!!!>.... I cannot understand why this is happening to me, but I play games on steam. I tried downloading a game overnight last night and when I came down my computer was off. I rebooted it up and took a shower came back down and it was off again.. All the settings in the power management are set to NEVER shutdown or sleep. Im not running hot, as I had my fan on, AC on 60, Fan in the room on, and a fan pad thing under it on. I didnt downgrade to windows 7 yet, and my not, and this is a legal copy of course.. Unless im running a benchmark or playing a serious game i idle, surf the web, and download, around 30-40 Degrees Celsius. It still shuts down though. Ill let it run again and see it the problem persists and let you know.

GT70-2pc Dominator's display on integrated graphics

Alright, so this time the issue is different. By using rivatuner I found out that currently my laptop display is not using the dedicated graphic card which this laptop boasts.. By looking on the internet, it seems that there would be an option on the BIOS that does the trick, yet by going there, I just can't find this option anywhere..
TL;DR - How do I make my laptop display use the dedicated graphic card instead of the integrated? Ofc I don't mean to solve this by putting applications on gpu-mode from nvidia control panel (this is not a troller-friendly thread anyway)
Here some specs lads:
System Manufacturer: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd.
System Model: GT70 2PC
BIOS: E1763IMS.50Y
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4710MQ CPU @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8110MB RAM
Page File: 4180MB used, 12122MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.03.9600.16384 64bit Unicode
Display Devices
Card name: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Chip type: Intel(R) HD Graphics Family
DAC type: Internal
Device Type: Full Device
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0416&SUBSYS_11061462&REV_06
Display Memory: 1792 MB
Dedicated Memory: 0 MB
Shared Memory: 1792 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Monitor Model: unknown
Monitor Id: CMO1720
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.020Hz)
Output Type: Internal
Driver Name: igdumdim64.dll,igd10iumd64.dll,igd10iumd64.dll,igdumdim32,igd10iumd32,igd10iumd32
Driver File Version: 10.18.0010.3907 (English)
Driver Version: 10.18.10.3907
DDI Version: 11.1

Quote from: bjorndiependaele on 21-May-15, 15:43:31
Is it possible to open up the laptop and connect the card to the laptop screen directly?
Connect the card to the laptop screen? What does that mean?

MSI GT70 2PC Dominator USB 3.0 Issues

Hey folks,
Hopefully somebody can be of assistance, me and my friend both purchased the MSI GT70 2PC a couple of months ago, fantastic laptop by the way. The only issue that both of us have been experiencing is with the USB 3.0 ports.
The problem is that when we connect a USB 3.0 External HDD it occasionally works fine but more often than not it will continually connect and disconnect almost as if it is not getting the correct amount of power. Now we both work in a computer repair shop so we have tried all of the basics, ensuring drivers are up to date, changing the HDD cable and due to where we work we have managed to test over 5 different brands of USB 3.0 external drives, used and brand new, all of which work fine on other computers via USB 3.0
Having read a few posts it seems that others have experienced this but there is no solution that I have found. Is there something we have missed or is this awaiting a driver update? The laptop is fantastic for my development needs however a £1300 laptop that can't reliably connect to a USB 3.0 drive is somewhat disappointing - I remain optimistic that there is indeed a solution!
Thankyou in advance for any help you can provide.

Hello markusbarrot,
The USB 3.0 high-speed electric signal is easy to be interfered and this will make the device suffer intermittent connections/disconnections. Not every USB 3.0 device suffered by this. It depends on the quality of the circuits between the USB device and the mainboard of the laptop.
1. Suggest you get a shorter USB 3.0 cable or an interference-resisted (magnetic shield) USB 3.0 cable. Some problems can be resolved by this.
2. Update the firmware of your external USB devices. Some problems can be resolved by this.
3. Return the laptop to the MSI authorized service providers or your local dealers for inspection on the USB ports. They can make sure your USB ports do work in the spec. or not.

Dominator GT70 2PC Screen Tear

I've had this laptop less than 6 months, I've been trying to bear with it for the last 3-4 months, but it has gotten very annoying. Happens in the middle of a race (need for speed, burnout), while watching netflix, and more. The issue is very similar to this youtube video:
I have the variation of this laptop with 16gb system ram, 120gb ssd, 1tb hdd, Nvidia GTX 870M w/ 6gb vram.
Is there anything you can do? Maybe send me a replacement, or a monitor replacement kit, or something? I don't know what's going on, I haven't dropped it or anything, in fact, it's been on my desk since day one of turning it on, hasn't left my bedroom.

Quote from: RX-8 on 12-February-15, 17:38:02
Hello dgauserna14112430835,
Suggest you update your BIOS and also EC firmware to the latest version from MSI official website first to see if they resolve this problem.
http://www.msi.com/support/nb/GT70-2PC-Dominator.html#down-bios
The symptom you described seems only happens while running on discrete NVIDIA graphic card. When running on it, the power button LED will glow orange. Do you always get these flickers while running on NVIDIA graphic card (power button LED in orange)? Or it sometimes happens as well when running on Intel's graphic card (power button LED in blue)?
The video example you posted indicates that the problem also happened under normal Windows' Desktop (GUI). I guess it's a physical problem when outputting the video signal to the panel. Maybe the damage on the cable.
Could you also provide any video to show your problem? That would be great for analyzing.
It always seems to load in the NVIDIA card. Although in NVIDIA settings I set it to use the higher powered NVIDIA card globally. Should I set it on a per-app basis?

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