CR100 training class

Hi all,
I'm trying to decide if I should take the CR100 class.
I've already read mySAP CRM - The Official Guidebook to SAP CRM Release 4.0 by Rudiger Buck-Emden and Peter Zencke. I'm almost done with SAP CRM Middleware Optimization Guide by Juliane Bode, Stephan Golze, and Thomas Schröder.
I've read most of the primary CRM user guides from SAP. I've already used the best practice building block guides to establish initial connectivity between our R/3 and CRM systems. I've replicated of a lot of customizing objects. I've also successfully downloaded the material master. The customer master still seems to be an issue but I'm working on.
Anyway, I know it's hard for someone else to say but I wonder if I've "self-taught" most of this class. Does any one have an opinion? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom

Tom,
Just to add in some my thoughts.. You probably get more money from the OKP materials than the standard courses IMHO. If you don't already have a license for the CRM 40, CRM 50 and CRM 2006s/2007 OKP materials then you should purchase it. The OKP materials for CRM 40 almost cover the fundamentals of how the system works and the associated functionality. It is quite easy then to pick each new release after reading the 40 baseline materials.
You will probably learn more by working with a CRM sandbox or building actual scenario than what the classes can teach you. The classes are good if you need an overview of the material and want to get away from your office and focus on learning.
I have somehow managed to in the last several years to get by with very little classroom training, but tons of self study using the system materials and OKP materials. I don't claim to know every aspect of CRM, but you can get things done on your own.
Oh btw the material you found online is probably an illegal copy of that material.
Take care,
Stephen

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[http://certcities.com/editorial/columns/print.asp?EditorialsID=112]
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Author of "Oracle Tuning: The Definitive Reference":
http://www.dba-oracle.com/bp/s_oracle_tuning_book.htm

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