Crappy BIOS on MSI 945P boards? Any chance getting better?

Hi all, I've already wrote it on different place but I'd like to know an answer, that's why I write it to a new thread.
I've got two MSI mainboards, both with the same chipset Intel 945P, just the bios differs; one AWARD the other AMIBIOS. Neverthless, both of them are experiencing similar problems in overclocking the CPU.
(1) MSI 945P Neo2-F and Intel P4 630 (Prescott, single core). My BIOS behaves "randomly" after changing the FSB. Other components offer a good reserve of performance and I am sure the CPU too. When increasing the FSB value for more than 15MHz, on reboot the system hangs and the original (200MHz) value is restored. If the FSB exceeds some 224MHz it always hangs and restores 200MHz. That mobo has an AMI Bios. No update seems to be available, as the MSI Live Update doesn't work (the server is probably down).
Even worse it is with a (2) MSI 945P Neo and the same CPU, with an Award Bios. The overclocking is also impossible. When the FSB value changed by just 1-2MHz, the system hangs on reboot and even though the manual claims that after 4 unsuccesfull attempts to boot it will restore defaults it won't. The only way is to open the case and remove the jumper to clear CMOS.
Though there's a possibility to overclock - through MSI Core center. Surprisingly, the same version of MSI CC offers different possibilities for each of the motherboards. (1) is overclockable just like 1%,3% .. 11% while for (2) it offers to change FSB by MHz and without limits.
That piece of software is crappy enough though and it is practically unusable, because on system reboot or power down it randomily (again) restores the original 200MHz FSB value.
I managed to oveclock P4 630 up to 4GHz without any problem by using MSI CC on (2) but annoyed by the issue described above, I decided not to use that kind of software.
According to other places on web, there are more guys around having the same troubles like me with 945P BIOSes, mainly what concerns OC. Here is my question: is there any chance that MSI will release a BIOS fixing this bug? Is there someone responsible for this so that I can report him the problems and he'll put some efforts in solving that issue or working on a new BIOS?
Thank you all who can help!

Quote from: kuni on 30-August-06, 16:19:09
Made some progress in understanding the problem.. I tried all possible BIOses, the FSB-PCIE sync/async didn't show in any of them except the oldest one. (it's a 1.0D BIOS version). When trying to OC with that BIOS, the same problems arose..PC locked up and even clear CMOS didn't help. So I went to our PC custommer service for a help. They changed CPU for a celeron and surprisingly, the PC worked like a charm, even FSB-PCIE sync/async appeared and I am sure there wouldn't be any problems with OC. Then they tried a different p4 630 and the problems were back. So it's obvious that the 945 based mobos from MSI don't deal with some CPUs correctly. I've already sent this to MSI but don't expect a fix for this.. luckily they gave me an ASUS for the same money instead and hope the problems aren't that of intel chipset as a whole but just that of MSI boards.. regards, Kuni.
P.S. if your mobo is still under warranty and wanna try to "hoax" your PC dealers for getting a new mobo like me, I can provide the old BIOS or just demand the MSI custommer service for w7176ims.10D
ok, i have checked the 1.5 BIOS from the link that kuni posted and CPU FSB & PCI-E is indeed hidden, but is set from default to async. all in all the features that are hidden in the 1.5 BIOS are already set at the best settings, so i don't see this as being a problem.

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