Crashed 10.3.9... Upgrade to Tiger?

My G4 has crashed running 10.3.9 during a software update and I can't recover without my startup disk I can't find. I was thinking of just upgrading now (finally) to Tiger. Here's my question: Can I use an "upgrade" package? (or are they all the same?) I was reading online that I have to have 10.3 installed already, which I do... it's just... dead. Will it work?

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1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9374d0dc mach_msg + 72
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x929880fe CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1806
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92988d38 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 88
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0x95556000 - 0x95608ffb libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib ??? (???) <330b0e48e67faffc8c22dfc069ca7a47> /usr/lib/libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib
0x95609000 - 0x95609ff8 com.apple.ApplicationServices 34 (34) <8f910fa65f01d401ad8d04cc933cf887> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Application Services
0x9563a000 - 0x95641ff7 libCGATS.A.dylib ??? (???) <9b29a5500efe01cc3adea67bbc42568e> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ CoreGraphics.framework/Versions/A/Resources/libCGATS.A.dylib
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0x957fc000 - 0x95920fe3 com.apple.audio.toolbox.AudioToolbox 1.5 (1.5) /System/Library/Frameworks/AudioToolbox.framework/Versions/A/AudioToolbox
0x95921000 - 0x95927fff com.apple.print.framework.Print 218 (220) <c35172175abbe554ddadd9b6401351fa> /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framewo rk/Versions/A/Print
0x95928000 - 0x95a0cffb com.apple.CoreData 100 (185) <a4e63784275e25e62f57e75e0af0b94d> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreData.framework/Versions/A/CoreData
0x95a0d000 - 0x95f22fff com.apple.WebCore 5523.10.3 (5523.10.3) <89179acba0e5ae2163d4a75ad460cbdb> /System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/WebCore.frame work/Versions/A/WebCore
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0x96069000 - 0x96078fff libsasl2.2.dylib ??? (???) <b9e1ca0b6612e280b6cbea6df0eec5f6> /usr/lib/libsasl2.2.dylib
0x96079000 - 0x9607affc libffi.dylib ??? (???) <a3b573eb950ca583290f7b2b4c486d09> /usr/lib/libffi.dylib
0x9607b000 - 0x96104fff com.apple.framework.IOKit 1.5.0 (???) <5d9b85c55183f9732eb9efc38d18ba53> /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit
0x96105000 - 0x961b4fff com.apple.DesktopServices 1.4.2 (1.4.2) <ec69c4072b0df6f52ef3f48fadf4c4b8> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DesktopServicesPriv.framework/Versions/A/Desk topServicesPriv
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0x961e7000 - 0x9621dfef libtidy.A.dylib ??? (???) <e4d3e7399fb83d7f145f9b4ec8196242> /usr/lib/libtidy.A.dylib
0x9621e000 - 0x96234fff com.apple.DictionaryServices 1.0.0 (1.0.0) <ad0aa0252e3323d182e17f50defe56fc> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Diction aryServices.framework/Versions/A/DictionaryServices
0x96235000 - 0x9623cffe libbsm.dylib ??? (???) <d25c63378a5029648ffd4b4669be31bf> /usr/lib/libbsm.dylib
0x9623d000 - 0x96289fff com.apple.QuickLookUIFramework 1.0 (168.0) /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/QuickLookUI.framework/Versions/A/QuickLookUI
0x9628a000 - 0x962b2ff7 com.apple.shortcut 1 (1.0) <057783867138902b52bc0941fedb74d1> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Shortcut.framework/Versions/A/Shortcut
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I am assuming you upgraded from Tiger to Leopard? What type of installation did you use?
My suggestion would be to
1.) go to your home folder and MOVE the mailboxes to the desktop -
• Home>Library>Mail
2.) Move "Mail" Folder to desktop
3.) Reopen Mail.app
4.) Setup account settings with no existing mailboxes
5.) Wait
• Allow mailboxes to download or set up any existing mail from mail servers
6.) Take ALL accounts OFFLINE after mail is downloaded from servers - disable network activity before importing old mailboxes
7.) Import OLD Mailboxes
• File>Import Mailboxes...
• Import data from "mac os x mailboxes" OR "mbox files"
8.) Wait
• It should be a few moments to load these depending on how much existing mail you have.
9.) If you have duplicates I highly reccomend using these apple scripts from aamann to resolve any additional issues:
• http://homepage.mac.com/aamann/Mail_Scripts.html
Apple Scripts:
Add Addresses (Mail)
* Add addresses found in the selected messages (in the header fields "From", "To", "Cc", "Bcc", and "Reply-To") to the Address Book. This is much more flexible than the "Add Sender to Address Book" available in Mail and provides a convenient way for creating mailing lists.
Archive Messages (Mail)
* Move messages from the selected mailbox(es) to an archive mailbox or export them to standard mbox, plain or rich text files for backup purposes or import into other applications. You can select to move all messages or only messages sent within or certain period as well filter messages based on their read and flagged status.
Change SMTP Server (Mail)
* Switch between different already defined SMTP servers or define a new one. This is especially useful if you are using your computer in more than one location and have to switch servers for several accounts at once.
Create Rule (Mail)
* Create a new rule based on the first of the selected messages. This saves you the trouble of copy/pasting address or other info between the message and the rule window and provides a much quicker way for setting up a rule with multiple criteria/actions.
Remove Duplicates (Mail)
* Locate all duplicate messages found in the selected mailbox(es) and move them to a separate mailbox for easy removal (duplicate matching is based on the unique message header "Message-Id").
Schedule Delivery (Mail)
* Allows you to send individual messages at predefined times (this script uses iCal for scheduling message delivery).
Send all Drafts (Mail)
* Immediately send all messages in the "Drafts" folders for all accounts. This saves you from having to open each draft in order to send it.
Open Mailbox, Open Message (Mail)
* Two small faceless scripts which will open mailboxes with new messages or the new messages themselves when run as a rule action.
Filter Sent Messages (Mail)
* Another faceless scripts which will apply your rules to the messages in the "Sent" mailbox.
Export Addresses (Address Book)
* Export addresses from the Address Book into tab-delimited text files. You can select which groups and which fields you want to export.
Search Addresses (Address Book)
* Find all addresses inside the Address Book matching one or more criteria. As opposed to the "Search" function built into the Address Book, this lets you search in any field as well as for empty and non-empty fields (Note: due to a bug in the Address Book's AppleScript implementation, "First Name" will always return a non-empty value for system versions of at least up to 10.3.2 - I have reported this bug to Apple and hope that they fix it with the next system update).
* As an example, you might use this script to search for all phone numbers with a certain area code in order to update your contacts after an area code change.
Good Luck,
Hope this helps!
Samantha S.

Ical and other applications crash/freeze after upgrade to tiger

I upgraded to Tiger over a year ago, and this problem has persisted since then. I haven't had time to fix it, but I really miss ical and the other programs that crash.
This is whats going on:
my ical, mail, ichat and address book freeze upon opening, or open and then crash. None of these programs work. I have tried all of the trouble shooting articles on the website. I have reinstalled tiger (twice) using archive + install.
I have also created a new user account, and i did not experience the problems on that account. So, i know it is my user account. However, I don't know what that means, and I don't know what i can do.
Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. I can try to post the crash reports (if someone would find them helpful and can tell me how to find them..)
thanks again for any help, I really appreciate it.
Kate

See this other discussion which uses a different phrase / set of keywords ("iCal hangs"):
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=545343&tstart=0
(I've been learning that the phrase you use in searching is critical in getting to the issue you are researching—and you can not use a Boolean AND or OR in these searches, so finding out common phrases to use can be a big help.)
G3 Desktop Mac OS X (10.4.7) 70GB Maxtor internal, 1GB Ram, La Cie 120GB Firewire, Iomega 160 USB

Upgrading to Tiger Installer problems

Ok, thanks in advance for giving a glance, and, Happiest of Holidays.
I did search and still doesn't fit my situation...
Upgrading to Tiger-retail box from OWC. I use an external partinioned 200g firewire drive as a B/U and bootable OS/software tester before installing on the Pismo. The drive has 10G space available on the bootable OS partion.
Start the Tiger DVD installer it begins and after installing Base System part 1 and moving to Running Installer Script the process stalls; doesn't crash - just stops: The FW drive stops blinking and the DVD stops spinning....
OK maybe i overlooked something etc... Have to erase the OS partition; clone 10.3.9 from the pismo to it and start again. This time do all the checks: Run disk utility, Tiger cache cleaner etc... all works well, even boot and work on the drive for a few days. Start the upgrade process again, stalls at the exact same place. I want to run Tiger on the FW drive prior to the Pismo to check it out and i don't relish the thought of having to start from scratch if problems occur installing on the Pismo....
This time i printed the log file which i include below.
I called OWC tech dept. - they said i probably don't have enough disk space for the process... the process told me it only required 3.5G. They didn't offer any further knowledge.
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
Peace
Dec 13 22:43:29 localhost : kern.boottime = Wed Dec 13 22:42:35 2006
Dec 13 22:43:34 localhost : Launching the Language Chooser for an OS Install
Dec 13 22:43:47 localhost : Found primary language hint "en"
Dec 13 22:43:48 localhost : Language Chooser ready
Dec 13 22:43:54 localhost : Launching the Installer using language code "English"
Dec 13 22:43:54 localhost : @(#)PROGRAM:Install PROJECT:Install-115 DEVELOPER:root BUILT:Mar 24 2005 19:49:35
Dec 13 22:43:54 localhost : @(#)PROGRAM:Installer PROJECT:Installer-83 DEVELOPER:root BUILT:Mar 22 2005 20:32:47
Dec 13 22:43:54 localhost : Hardware: PowerBook3,1 @ 550 MHz, 1024 MB
Dec 13 22:43:54 localhost : Running OS Build: 8A428
Dec 13 22:43:55 localhost : It took 0.069497 seconds to parse the distribution script "OSInstall.dist"
Dec 13 22:43:55 localhost : Mac OS X Installation Log
Dec 13 22:43:55 localhost : Opened from: /System/Installation/Packages/OSInstall.mpkg
Dec 13 22:43:55 localhost : It took 0.593482 seconds to load 8 UI sections
Dec 13 22:43:56 localhost : Entering Introduction section
Dec 13 22:43:56 localhost : Physical Memory Allocation: 67 MB wired, 59 MB active, 50 MB inactive, 176 MB used, 846 MB free, 1024 MB total
Dec 13 22:43:56 localhost : It took 0.066549 seconds to -[IFDistXMLDocument readAndValidateDocument]
Dec 13 22:43:56 localhost : It took 1.870348 seconds to finish launching.
Dec 13 22:43:56 localhost : It took 0.070562 seconds to perform the Installation Check
Dec 13 22:43:56 localhost : Installation checks completed successfully.
Dec 13 22:43:59 localhost : It took 4.862299 seconds to do the initial process of the targets
Dec 13 22:44:03 localhost : It took 0.001109 seconds to perform a Volume Check on "NOWHERE"
Dec 13 22:44:03 localhost : It took 5.568710 seconds to process the volume "NOWHERE"
Dec 13 22:44:04 localhost : It took 0.000808 seconds to perform a Volume Check on "OmLaMeWaNuRa"
Dec 13 22:44:04 localhost : It took 0.219841 seconds to process the volume "OmLaMeWaNuRa"
Dec 13 22:44:04 localhost : Entering License section
Dec 13 22:44:04 localhost : Physical Memory Allocation: 69 MB wired, 60 MB active, 56 MB inactive, 185 MB used, 838 MB free, 1024 MB total
Dec 13 22:44:05 localhost : It took 0.001021 seconds to perform a Volume Check on "OSX B/U"
Dec 13 22:44:05 localhost : It took 1.704675 seconds to process the volume "OSX B/U"
Dec 13 22:44:06 localhost : It took 0.000793 seconds to perform a Volume Check on "Exploration"
Dec 13 22:44:06 localhost : It took 0.221947 seconds to process the volume "Exploration"
Dec 13 22:44:09 localhost : Entering Select Destination section
Dec 13 22:44:09 localhost : Physical Memory Allocation: 70 MB wired, 60 MB active, 58 MB inactive, 188 MB used, 835 MB free, 1024 MB total
Dec 13 22:44:23 localhost : Entering Installation Type section
Dec 13 22:44:23 localhost : Physical Memory Allocation: 70 MB wired, 61 MB active, 60 MB inactive, 191 MB used, 831 MB free, 1024 MB total
Dec 13 22:45:06 localhost : Entering Installation Type section
Dec 13 22:45:06 localhost : Physical Memory Allocation: 70 MB wired, 61 MB active, 61 MB inactive, 192 MB used, 830 MB free, 1024 MB total
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : admin auth received to install
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : =============================================================================== =
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : User picked Custom Install
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Choices selected for installation:
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Upgrade: "Mac OS X"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Upgrade: "Essential System Software"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : BaseSystem.pkg : com.apple.pkg.BaseSystem : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Essentials.pkg : com.apple.pkg.Essentials : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : BSD.pkg : com.apple.pkg.BSD : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : AdditionalEssentials.pkg : com.apple.pkg.AdditionalEssentials : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : AdditionalSpeechVoices.pkg : com.apple.pkg.AdditionalSpeechVoices : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : AsianLanguagesSupport.pkg : com.apple.pkg.AsianLanguagesSupport : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : MediaFiles.pkg : com.apple.pkg.MediaFiles : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : MigrationAssistant.pkg : com.apple.pkg.MigrationAssistant : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Mail.pkg : com.apple.pkg.Mail : 2.0.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : AddressBook.pkg : com.apple.pkg.AddressBook : 4.0.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : iCal.pkg : com.apple.pkg.iCal : 2.0.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Automator.pkg : com.apple.pkg.Automator : 1.0.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : iTunes.pkg : com.apple.pkg.iTunes : 4.7.1.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : iChat.pkg : com.apple.pkg.iChat : 3.0.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Java.pkg : com.apple.pkg.Java : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Safari.pkg : com.apple.pkg.Safari : 2.0.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : OxfordDictionaries.pkg : com.apple.pkg.OxfordDictionaries : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Upgrade: "Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Install: "Brother Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : BrotherPrinterDrivers.pkg : com.apple.pkg.BrotherPrinterDrivers : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Upgrade: "Canon Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : CanonPrinterDrivers.pkg : com.apple.pkg.CanonPrinterDrivers : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Install: "Electronics For Imaging Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : ElectronicsForImagingPrinterDrivers.pkg : com.apple.pkg.ElectronicsForImagingPrinterDrivers : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Install: "EPSON Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : EpsonPrinterDrivers.pkg : com.apple.pkg.EpsonPrinterDrivers : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Upgrade: "Hewlett-Packard Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : HewlettPackardPrinterDrivers.pkg : com.apple.pkg.HewlettPackardPrinterDrivers : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Upgrade: "Lexmark Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : LexmarkPrinterDrivers.pkg : com.apple.pkg.LexmarkPrinterDrivers : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Upgrade: "Gimp Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : GimpPrintPrinterDrivers.pkg : com.apple.pkg.GimpPrintPrinterDrivers : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Install: "Ricoh Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : RicohPrinterDrivers.pkg : com.apple.pkg.RicohPrinterDrivers : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Install: "Xerox Printer Drivers"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : XeroxPrinterDrivers.pkg : com.apple.pkg.XeroxPrinterDrivers : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Install: "Additional Fonts"
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : AdditionalFonts.pkg : com.apple.pkg.AdditionalFonts : 10.4.0.1470000.1622
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : =============================================================================== =
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : It took 0.019065 seconds to summarize the package selections.
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Entering Install section
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Physical Memory Allocation: 70 MB wired, 61 MB active, 61 MB inactive, 192 MB used, 830 MB free, 1024 MB total
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Package mounted from disk2s3
Dec 13 22:45:54 localhost : Starting media verification
Dec 13 22:58:47 localhost : Verified 2139488256 of 2832207872 bytes (75%)
Dec 13 22:58:47 localhost : Finished media verification
Dec 13 22:59:15 localhost : Starting installation:
Dec 13 22:59:15 localhost : Preparing volume "OSX B:U" for installation
Dec 13 22:59:15 localhost : Performing volume consistency check on OSX B:U
Dec 13 22:59:17 localhost : Checking Volume
Dec 13 22:59:17 localhost : Checking HFS Plus volume.
Dec 13 22:59:17 localhost : Checking Extents Overflow file.
Dec 13 22:59:17 localhost : Checking Catalog file.
Dec 13 22:59:28 localhost : Checking multi-linked files.
Dec 13 22:59:28 localhost : Checking Catalog hierarchy.
Dec 13 22:59:41 localhost : Checking volume bitmap.
Dec 13 22:59:41 localhost : Checking volume information.
Dec 13 22:59:41 localhost : Dec 13 22:59:41 localhost : The volume OSX B/U appears to be OK.
Dec 13 22:59:41 localhost : Mounting Disk
Dec 13 22:59:42 localhost : Volume passed consistency checks.
Dec 13 22:59:42 localhost : Configuring volume "OSX B:U"
Dec 13 22:59:42 localhost : Preparing Disk for OS Install
Dec 13 22:59:43 localhost : Volume disk1s10 mounted at /Volumes/OSX B:U is ready
Dec 13 22:59:43 localhost : Activating Virtual Memory backing store
Dec 13 22:59:44 localhost : Create temporary directory "/Volumes/OSX B:U/OSInstall.mpkg.108bY7sfm"
Dec 13 22:59:44 localhost : run preflight script for Mac OS X
Dec 13 22:59:44 localhost : run preflight script for Base System Part 1
Dec 13 22:59:44 localhost : run preflight script for Essentials
Dec 13 22:59:45 localhost : run preflight script for BSD Subsystem
Dec 13 22:59:47 localhost : run preflight script for Additional Essentials
Dec 13 22:59:50 localhost : run preflight script for Migration Assistant
Dec 13 22:59:51 localhost : run preflight script for iTunes
Dec 13 22:59:51 localhost : Assembling temporary receipt for Mac OS X
Dec 13 22:59:57 localhost : Processing Base System Part 1:
Dec 13 22:59:57 localhost : Initialize patching
Dec 13 22:59:57 localhost : Determining files to install
Dec 13 23:00:07 localhost : Evaluating versions of bundles
Dec 13 23:00:07 localhost : Evaluating custom file version checking
Dec 13 23:00:07 localhost : Configuring deferred files
Dec 13 23:00:07 localhost : Determing obsolete files
Dec 13 23:00:08 localhost : Assembling temporary receipt
Dec 13 23:00:10 localhost : Performing pre-extraction actions
Dec 13 23:00:14 localhost : run preupgrade script for Base System Part 1
Dec 13 23:00:16 localhost /System/Installation/Packages/BaseSystem.pkg/../OSInstall.mpkg/Contents/Resourc es/ConfMigrator: Swapping the following user-modified file: /Volumes/OSX B:U/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist
Dec 13 23:00:16 localhost /System/Installation/Packages/BaseSystem.pkg/../OSInstall.mpkg/Contents/Resourc es/ConfMigrator: Swapping the following user-modified file: /Volumes/OSX B:U/private/etc/hostconfig
Dec 13 23:00:16 localhost /System/Installation/Packages/BaseSystem.pkg/../OSInstall.mpkg/Contents/Resourc es/ConfMigrator: Swapping the following user-modified file: /Volumes/OSX B:U/private/etc/xinetd.d/ftp
Dec 13 23:00:16 localhost : Removing obsoleted files
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/NIInterface.framework/Versions/B/Resourc es
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/zh_TW.lproj because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/zh_CN.lproj because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/sv.lproj because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/pt.lproj because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/no.lproj because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/ko.lproj because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/fi.lproj because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/da.lproj because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/English.lproj because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources/Batch.mpkg/Contents/Resources
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents/Resources because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app/Contents because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/MultiCDInstaller.app because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces/Minstaller.app/Contents/Resources
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A/Resour ces because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions/A because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework/Versions because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Installation.framework because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/DiskArbitration.framework/Versions/A/Res ources
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/Perl/5.8.1/darwin-thread-multi-2level because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Not removing /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/Perl/5.8.1 because it is not empty.
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Se archKit.framework/Versions/A/Resources
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OS Services.framework/Versions/A/Resources/NSLPlugins/DS.bundle/Contents/Resources
Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/CoreServices/webdavfs.bundle/Contents/Resources
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Dec 13 23:00:17 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./System/Library/CoreServices/SystemIcons.bundle/Contents/Resources
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Dec 13 23:00:18 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/Resources/TargetSelect.bund le/Contents/Resources
Dec 13 23:00:18 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/Resources/Splash.bundle/Con tents/Resources
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Dec 13 23:00:18 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./Applications/Utilities/Installer.app/Contents/Resources/FileLog.bundle/Co ntents/Resources
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Dec 13 23:00:18 localhost : Removing all languages from /Volumes/OSX B:U/./Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.app/Contents/PlugIns/RAID.dumodule/Contents/Resources
Dec 13 23:00:18 localhost : Creating destination path
Dec 13 23:00:18 localhost : Extracting files
Dec 13 23:05:04 localhost : 11079 files looked up in 0.76 seconds. 11016 files written in 285.63 seconds.
Dec 13 23:05:04 localhost : 337945 kilobytes installed.
Dec 13 23:05:04 localhost : run postupgrade script for Base System Part 1
Dec 13 23:05:05 localhost /System/Installation/Packages/BaseSystem.pkg/../OSInstall.mpkg/Contents/Resourc es/ConfMigrator: The following file was user-modified, and is the active version: /Volumes/OSX B:U/Library/Preferences/SystemConfiguration/preferences.plist
Diffs should be re-integrated by the user from the .system_default-suffixed file
Dec 13 23:05:05 localhost /System/Installation/Packages/BaseSystem.pkg/../OSInstall.mpkg/Contents/Resourc es/ConfMigrator: The following file was user-modified, and is the active version: /Volumes/OSX B:U/private/etc/hostconfig
Diffs should be re-integrated by the user from the .system_default-suffixed file
Dec 13 23:05:05 localhost /System/Installation/Packages/BaseSystem.pkg/../OSInstall.mpkg/Contents/Resourc es/ConfMigrator: Package configuration or installation error: The following file was swapped before upgrading, but a new version was not installed: /Volumes/OSX B:U/private/etc/xinetd.d/ftp
The previous copy was successfully made the active version.
Dec 13 23:05:05 localhost : Performing post-extraction actions
Dec 13 23:05:05 localhost : SecAlternate system ("/Volumes/OSX B:U") returned 100079
Pismo G4/550;SuperDrive;DLink BT;1GB RAM Mac OS X (10.3.9) upgraded CPU & Optical Drive!

Hello Again Ce Ann!
See My Reply, in your other related topic Upgrade Help... is my install disk good?.
ali b

HELP!!!! Just upgrade to Tiger and now nothing works

Please help me iv just upgraded to tiger and now none of my programs will open they crash on start-up, and also when i restart i get a little box with a blue globe inside it. then it goes to the unhappy face in a folder icon, then eventually it starts up. Please help me im buggerd without the mac.

Hi Andy!
What size is the Hard Drive, and how much space is avaialble?
How much RAM is installed, and is it original or added?
Did you use a Full Retail Version, of the Tiger Install DVD, to upgrade?
Did you do an Archive & Install, preserving User settings & preferences, installation, and if so, is the Previous System folder still on the HD?
ali b

Am replacing airport extreme with Time Machine and want to upgrade from Tiger to Snow leopard. Am told I should manually back up into T Machine before OS update but set up utility won't allow anything with OS below 10.5 and I'm 10.4.11. What to do?

Am replacing airport extreme with Time Machine and want to upgrade from Tiger to Snow leopard. Am told I should manually back up into T Machine before OS update but set up utility won't allow anything with OS below 10.5 and I'm 10.4.11. What to do?

I think you mean you are replacing your Airport Extreme with a Time Capsule. Time Machine is software integrated into OS X 10.5 & 10.6 used to automatically backup a system to an external HD. Time Capsule is an Airport Extreme that has a hard disk integrated into it that can be used for storage or as a Time Machine backup drive.
Because you are currently on Tiger 10.4.x you can backup to a external HD using SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner. Having a backup is very wise before doing any major system update. After you have created the backup and have successfully upgraded to Snow Leopard you can still use the external HD for many things. The strategy I'd recommend is to use the new Time Capsule as your Time Machine backup and then use the external HD as backup using SuperDuper or CCC. Redundant backups is wise because backups can (and do) fail too! In addition both SD and CCC are bootable clones, this is useful in that if your internal HD crashes you can boot from a cloned drive and continue working until the internal HD is replaced.
Below are some links to some articles from MacWorld, I would recommend reading them where you find a common theme, redundant backups. Backup Plan I, Backup Plan II & Backup Plan III.
Roger

Upgrading to Tiger 10.4.10 Wrecked my mac

i recently attempted to upgrade my tiger from 10.4.6 to 10.4.10 because my macbook automatically updated my itunes when i connected to internet. the installation started off fine but as it attempted to actually update my mac my laptop crashed and switched itself off. the only way i could get it working again was to wipe and reinstall.
how can i prevent this from happeneing as i lost all my information as i dont know how to back up files.
please help????

Jack--
That stinks. Backing up can be complicated, but most user-friendly way I've found to do it is get an external firewire hard drive (mine is a Mercury-on-the-Go from Other World Computing because I am simple and I know they work, but of course there are others. You might ask on the forums here about good ones available in the UK or do a web search. Just make sure they are "bootable--" very important. ) Then get the backup program SuperDuper
http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html
and "clone" your computer to the external hard drive. That way, if the same thing happened again, you would simply boot from the external hard drive and restore the system to what it was prior to the upgrade.
I have used many backup programs and this one is by far the easiest to use and it works.
Also, turn of the automatic updates and check the MacFixit website to read about any problems people are having before you decide to update. Sometimes it is best to wait a while until the bugs are worked out. I try to be on the leading edge but not the bleeding edge.
Hope this helps.

Lost firewire after upgrade to Tiger

Hi,
I just upgraded to Tiger, and FCP will not see my deck. On launching FCP, FCP doesny even ask for my deck or say it doesnt see it, like it use to if the deck was off. Noe the funny thing. I can controll the deck via capture, but igoes through the motions, but wont actually capture anything.This one stumps me, saw a few posts on this. Any help appreciated
Thanks

Search is your friend. Had you input your subject line into the search field, you' have found:
#30 - Deck recognition after Tiger Upgrade:
Shane's Stock Answer #30:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1063600&#1063600
The credit for this goes to Bob Sidebotham:
I was just walked through a repair procedure by an Apple Care person, and it fixed my camera recognition problems (I have a Canon XL1 and sometime after installing Tiger, then 10.4.1, various patches (including Quicktime 7.1) and the latest Desktop Video patch, I've been unable to use the camera with Final Cut Express, and attempts to capture would result in a FCE crash).
The workaround is to download Quicktime manually, after removing the "receipts" which indicate that it is loaded. Specifically, I was told to do the following:
1. Navigate to Library -> Receipts on your main drive (not from your personal folder).
2. Remove all files of the form QuickTime*.pkg, where "*" is a version number. E.g. QuickTime600.pkg, QuickTime650.pkg, Quicktime700.pkg and QuickTime701.pkg. This simply tells your system that those packages are not installed.
3. Go to http://www.apple.com/quicktime/downloads and click on the "download Quicktime" link. DO NOT USE THE AUTOMATIC UPDATE UTILITY. Download QuickTimeInstallerX.dmg. Double click this file (probably on your desktop) and then invoke the installer by double clicking QuickTime701.pkg.
4. After your computer reboots, you should be able to restart FCP and see your camera.
Shane

Price for Upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard

As the topics says, my question is how much it will cost to upgrade my Tiger to Snow Leopard if its released.
Any ideas? I did read that Leopard to Snow Leopard Upgrade has a price of $29. Did this means, I have to buy Leopard and Snow Leopard because I am currently only Tiger user?
Greetings
Schaelle

Those who have Intel Core 2 Duo processors will apparently see significant performance boosts with Snow Leopard. SN is also much smaller than Leopard. From [Apple's press release|http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/06/08macosx.html]:
Users will notice a more responsive Finder™; Mail that loads messages 85 percent faster and conducts searches up to 90 percent faster;* Time Machine® with up to 50 percent faster initial backup;* a Dock with Exposé integration; a 64-bit version of Safari® 4 that boosts the performance of the Nitro JavaScript engine by up to 50 percent** and is resistant to crashes caused by plug-ins. Snow Leopard also includes an all new QuickTime® X, with a redesigned player that allows users to easily view, record, trim and share video to YouTube, MobileMe™ or iTunes®. Snow Leopard is half the size of the previous version and frees up to 6GB of drive space once installed.
There's also an interesting article in [last week's PC World|http://www.pcworld.com/article/166344/snowleopard_taps_into_the_macs_corepower.html].
According to the article, the main Snow Leopard performance boost comes from parallel processing across multiple CPU cores and graphics hardware processors, not just from the increased RAM address space.
We'll have to wait for further real-world tests, but an additional $29 may be a good buy for those Intel Core2Duo owners who already have or were planning to buy Leopard.

Getting a larger hard drive...and want to upgrade to Tiger...help!

Hello everyone!
I have a dualie MDD with the stock 60 gig hard drive that I want to upgrade. I'd like a 200 or 250 gig hard drive.
Once I have the new hard drive installed, I'd like to upgrade to Tiger. But I'm lost as to how this process works. I know I'd need to clone my current OS, but then how do I clone it to the new drive once it's installed?
Would I:
1) Back my system up onto CD/DVDs/external drive/whatever
2) Create clone of system using CCC or Disk Utilities
3) Install new drive??
4) ???
5) Upgrade to Tiger??
I'm not sure if two drives running so close to each other inside the hard drive cage is a wise move considering how hot the inside of an MDD gets, so I may remove the 60 once everything is up and running.
So how do I go about this the right way? Detailed instructions would be very appreciated. Thank you!

Hi, Pat!
First of all, get the new drive and install it. (Insure you buy an ATA drive and not a SATA drive.) If you need any assistance with installing, configuring, or initializing the drive, please post back.
In the interim, check for updates to your third-party apps to make sure that they will all be up-to-date and Tiger-compatible. Download a free copy of Superduper! or CarbonCopyCloner to later clone your startup drive. You can also use Disk Utility's Restore option for cloning, if you'd rather do so.
Next, you have a decision to make about the Tiger install. You can either upgrade it from Panther on your current drive, or do a fresh install of Tiger and use the Setup Assistant to incorporate your data from the Panther volume. I prefer and would recommend the latter as a much "cleaner" way of upgrading, leaving less "baggage" from the older OS. I would install Tiger directly to the new drive, which precludes the immediate need to clone anything while still leaving the original startup drive and system intact. If you'd rather do the upgrade install, then you should clone the Panther volume to the new drive, check the clone to insure it's okay, and install Tiger over Panther onto one drive or the other.
After installing Tiger, doing the software updates, moving your user files, apps etc. to the Tiger volume, you can run and test it for a week or so to insure all is well and that you have everything you need from the Panther drive. Once you're satisfied, you can then either retain the Panther volume as-is, using it as an alternate startup drive, or (preferably) you can instead erase it, zero it, and clone a copy of your Tiger volume to it as a backup and alternate startup drive.
Feel free to post back with any questions or concerns and one or more of the members will gladly address them.
Gary
1GHz DP G4 Quicksilver 2002, 400MHz B&W rev.2 G3, Mac SE30 Mac OS X (10.4.5) 5G iPod, Epson 2200 & R300 & LW Select 360 Printers, Epson 3200 Scanner

Optical drive problems after upgrade to Tiger 10.4.10

I've just had my machine updated to Tiger 10.4.10 after having two new hard drives installed after a hard drive failure. I'm now having issues with burning data for backup purposes.
I can't burn anything with Mac OS Disc Burner utility, it doesn't seem to recognize blank disc's DVD's or CD's. It keeps telling me to load a disc when one is already in the drive.
System profiler recognizes CD-R's & DVD-R's when they are in the optical drive
I can burn with Toast Titanium ver 6.0.3 DVD's & CD's. The burned CD's will mount. The burned DVD's will not mount.
I have checked the burned DVD's in the optical drive of my iBook G4 Mac OS 10.3.9 and they mount on it fine.
Movie DVD's will mount & play. Software DVD's will mount and load applications.
I have cleaned the drive with a cleaning disc.
The Optical Drive was working fine before the upgrade, so what is the problem?
I can only assume two problems now!
1.) the optical drive has a physical malfunction
2.) there is a software issue between Tiger 10.4.10 & this optical drive (this is my favorite at the moment)
The upgrade was done by an Apple Authorised Service Provider they say there are no issues with Tiger & the optical drive.
So any ideas or help would be much appreciated.
Machine Name: Power Mac G5
Machine Model: PowerMac7,2
CPU Type: PowerPC 970 (2.2)
Number Of CPUs: 2
CPU Speed: 1.8 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1.5 GB
Bus Speed: 900 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 5.1.5f0
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D:
Model: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D
Revision: A606
Serial Number: DBDL909690WL
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-106D:
Firmware Revision: A606
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn Support: Yes (Apple Shipped/Supported)
Cache: 2000 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write: -R, -RW
DVD-Write: -R, -RW, +R, +RW
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Strategies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
Media: No

I'm having a similar problem. I bought my G5 with Panther OS on it a few years ago. The DVD drive functioned perfectly back then. Then I upgraded to Tiger this past year which caused the DVD drive to open later..that is, I'd have to hold down the eject button for a good 2 or 3 seconds before it would open or close. Previously it responded instantly. Now what happens more and more is it can't read DVD-ROM disks that it has burned. My imac G4 with Jaguar has no trouble reading the disks but Tiger 10.4.9 and 10.4.10 simply refuse to mount DVD ROM disks that it burned.
I'm trying to make a duplicate DVD of the offending disk on my single-processor G4 and then put THAT disk into the G5 so it can read the info. Hopefully that will be my work-around.
It's got to be a software issue and I keep hoping the Apple wiz kids will put out an update to remedy this. Something's fishy with the DVD drive programming.

I bought the wrong upgrade to Tiger disk

Recently I bought an iMac Mac OS Install 2 Disk set (gray color) with the following detail: Mac OS version 10.4.7, ANT Version 3A112, Disc Version, 1.0, #2Z691-5883-A. My iMac accepted the disk but when I tried to install the Tiger package it displayed a panic notice saying it was looking for a PowerPC disc 8.1 and would go no further. Obviously I made a boo boo here. What disk should I buy to upgrade to Tiger from 10.3.9, please? What kind of Mac would run the disk I wrongly bought?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Jennell answered your question correctly.
The gray disks you have are OEM disks for another model. You need the full retail install disk.. You don't need to buy it from Apple but it does need to be either boxed as shown or have the Tiger "X" on the disk. As shown here.
OS X 10.5 Leopard is about to be released, so you may want to wait.
-mj
[email protected]

Upgrading to Tiger & HP AIO printer TIP

I just upgraded from Panther to Tiger, 10.4.3. After reading about all of the issues surrounding HP AIO printer issues and upgrading to Tiger here is what I did and my HP AIO 6110 works perfectly after the upgrade.
Before upgrading I did a complete clone of my old system to a FW HD. Ran TechToolPro. Deleted all existing HP AIO software. Rebooted my machine. Upgraded to Tiger and then ran Combo 10.4.3 updater. Used Printer Setup to set up the 6110 from the Tiger upgraded drivers. Printer worked just as under Panther with no issues. Installed all the HP 6110 software.
Scanning and Coping as well as Printing all work perfectly.
I'm not saying this will work for others but it did work for me.
Doug

Hello Again Ce Ann!
See My Reply, in your other related topic Upgrade Help... is my install disk good?.
ali b

Can only print one copy at a time in AppleWorks since upgrading to Tiger

Since upgrading to Tiger 10.4.3, (now using version10.4.6) and AppleWorks 6.2.9, I cannot print more than one copy of my document using either of my Epson printers, a R200 and a C86. I did not have this problem with Panther and AW 6.
Apple techs said to reinstalled AW, did not help. Then did a complete archive and reinstall of Tiger, no help, then created a new preference folder, no help.
I found by trial and error that my Grammarian spell and grammar program by Linguisoft uses an input method to be active in order to correct AW documents. I sent them an email and their reply was, this is a bug in Mac OS X 10.4.x (all versions as of Nov, 2005) Specifically, if an input method is active, you will be unable to edit the number of copies or page range values in the dialog versions of Print and Page Setup. This is not a problem in the sheet versions of Print and Page Setup.
Certain older applications still use these dialogs (i.e., AppleWorks) instead of the more appropriate sheet equivalents. To clarify the difference, the sheet versions are "attached" to the actual document you are printing (take a look at, say, TextEdit), while the dialog versions appear modally in front of all document windows in applications that use them.
I wrote a three page letter to Apple and received a call from them, it seems that for now no upgrades to correct this problem is in the works, so for now I will have to make my corrections to all documents that I am working on, then change the input method in Grammarian and print my copies, then go back and make Grammarian active again.
Any suggestions on how to resolve this problem or am I the only one?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.6)

Hello DaisyMay,
You're quite welcome. Very glad to hear it helped!
Yet I'd like to mention the true ones of merit are the contributors of the original Japanese thread. I've just summarized and translated a bit.
Regarding why it takes so long to fix this bug/flaw, I suspect that it is because it won't affect the majority of American users who do not use input method at all, and besides, it seemingly affects only Carbon API, that Apple Computer Inc. is liable to neglect lately.
However, input method is a vital piece in CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) languages, and any other languages that use more than 256 characters, and also quite a few Carbon applications are still in service, so for us (Japanese, e.g.), this bug/flaw is quite unacceptable.
It's new for me to know a non-CJK program, Grammarian, uses input method. Now I understand you'd see this bug/flaw unacceptable as well!
At least one of the contributors of Japanese thread said he let Apple Computer Japan know this problem via official telephone support channel. Also other said that Ergosoft Corp., the maker of EGWord, stated that this is a known-issue of OSX10.4 and they can do nothing but wait for Apple to fix it. Ergosoft has been specialized to Macintosh platform since 1984, so it's quite unlikely they had not reported this problem to Apple via developer channel.
After all, I think Apple knows this problem, whether a bug or a flaw.
Well, possibly, it might not be sufficient for an end-user to point out the problem via Apple's telephone support channel...
In such case, you may try this form -
http://www.apple.com/macosx/feedback/
In my humble opinion, they should shortly fix this, and meanwhile they should promptly publish the user-proposed work-around methods as a Knowledge Base article.
Have beautiful May,
Hiroto
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