Crazy adj brush in LR 3.2?!

Updated today and when I go to use my brush areas of the photo not even close to where I am painting start to change but always brighter. And even weirder I am trying to darken and the photo is lightening... Very concerned and confused. Yikes!?!!
Much thanks for the advice.
Aaron

Hey afeinphoto,
Here are couple of observations and suggestions that may help:
If your brush is making things lighter instead of darker, check the brush's "Exposure" settings.
If it's on the plus side it will in fact make things lighter, however a negative setting (slider to the left of center) should produce the the darkening that you're looking for.
If you are getting inaccurate results painting, try slowing down!
On my own system, I've noticed that the paintbrush and gradient tools can sometimes be very CPU intensive. The apparently inaccurate or random brush strokes could be due to your system bogging down and lagging behind your actual real-time brush strokes.
Cheers and hope this helps!

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You haven't exactly provided a lot of information on what you're doing, so it's tad difficult to say what you're doing wrong.
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To zoom in Lightroom develop module you can press down on the Spacebar and the Brush tool should switch to the Zoom tool, click on the image to zoom then release the spacebar. The cursor should switch back to the brush. If you continue to hold down the Spacebar the cursor changes to the Hand tool. The key is to NOT hold down the spacebar for any longer than necessary.
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vinsolo wrote:
Why does this not work in Camera Raw 6.1?
Because Camera Raw is a plug-in and limited by the API of the plug-in environment and Lightroom is an application that can do things that plug-ins can;t. Note ACR can do some things LR can't. So, the bottom line is that while the Camera Raw/Lightroom processing pipeline is capable of rendering images exactly the same, the usability and the functionality is going to be a bit different.

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I want to darken the overexposed sky in a photo. I reduced the exposure ( - 4 EV) of the whole photo to see how the sky would look. It looked great. Deep blue sky with white clouds with light gray areas. Then I reset the exposure & painted the sky with the adjustment brush set to Exposure - 4 EV. The sky looked terrible. Clouds were dark grayish black in some areas. I increased the exposure to - 3 EV & then - 2.5 EV & it looked less terrible but not good. Why is there such a difference in the way the sky looks when changing the exposure of the whole photo & changing it with the adjustment brush. Thanks!

It is a known issue with how the adjustment brush works in exposure
compensation mode. Hopefully it will be fixed in the future.
I want to darken the overexposed sky in a photo. I reduced the exposure ( - 4
EV) of the whole photo to see how the sky would look. It looked great. Deep
blue sky with white clouds with light gray areas. Then I reset the exposure &
painted the sky with the adjustment brush set to Exposure - 4 EV. The sky
looked terrible. Clouds were dark grayish black in some areas. I increased the
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At a guess , the preset may also have switched theTreatment to B&W, in which case the saturation in a brush will have no effect. You would have to do this the other way around and brush on the de saturated parts of the image. Or take the easy way out and use PS and masks and layers.

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Local adjustments: Spotting / Cloning / Healing Brush, Adjustmenst Brush, Graduated filter
I posted the piece below as a response to thaehn’s post “Lightroom freezes on Dust Spot Removal” but I thought the topic is important enough to warrant its own post.
This in advance: I'm running WIN XP SP4 with all available patches; have 4 GB of RAM; have a dual-core processor at 3 GB.
Apart from my drive C, I have two internal hard drives in Raid 0 configuration (thus they show up as one drive). I also have an external hard drive that's in Raid 1 ( "mirroring') and is connected by fire-wire 400.
Yes, LR "freezes" when using the dust spot tool and also when using the adjustment brush or - but to a lesser degree - when using the grad filter.
My observation though is that it's not a true "freezing", because if I wait long enough LR starts working again. So when using these tools, LR gets extremely busy und just doesn't have enough resources left to respond to further commands right away - but it "stores" the comands and acts on them eventually.
If I turn on my task manager I observe the following when using these tools: the CPU gets extremely busy (i.e. the green bar is at 100%) while the RAM usage is high but not to the max. The "freezes" occur when and as long the CPU works at 100%. If the CPU is below 100% LR responds sluggish and the response is normal again when eventually the CPU usage is at 0%.
Also, in my observation, this behaviour of LR is compounding, i.e. the wait-times for my CPU to get back to 0 are increasing, the longer I work with these tools or the more photos I work on. Re-starting LR does not bring change: the behaviour establishes itself when using the tools again. It is as if LR needs to do some work in the background and that this background work piles up the longer I work in LR.
I am not a software or hardware specialist, so the following observations are somewhat subjective and not really quantifiable.
In Photoshop I observed a similar behaviour (although never as bad) when working on files of 500 MB and above. It was particularly bad when working on photos residing on my external RAID 1 hard drive. I had a hunch that it might have to do with the reading and writing from a drive that a) is external and b) is in RAID 1. It is known that RAID 1 has slower writing (and also reading) speeds than RAID 0 (or no RAID at all). So in Photoshop I managed to cut down on the unresponsiveness by moving large files to my internal RAID 0 hard drive and working from there.
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Acually I cannot explain why this should be so: In my naivete I thought LR writes everything only into the catalog (?), that - by the way - is on my internal RAID 0 drive.
I think it would be good if Adobe could look into this and maybe give us some recommendations, just as they do for Photoshop by saying that the scratch disk should be on a different drive than Photoshop.
But it seems also that local adjustments - spotting, adj. brush. etc - are a very high "number-crunching" business for LR - independent of where the photo is located on the drive. (Interestingly the grad filter is not as bad as the adjustment brush). The clone-tool in Photoshop hardly registers on my CPU and if at all only with a very short spike, while the clone tool in LR sends the CPU through the roof for 10 to 30 seconds- even when the photo in question is on the internal drive.
I'm sure loots of people will now tell me that this is due to the difference between pixel-based adjustment and non-pixel-based ones. OK, I acknowledge that. But still ...
It seems some guys are still in denial about this (or maybe they have two quad processors and 16 GB of RAM):
But it's a fact: LR has a hard time with localized adjustments. There must be by now 100's of complaints to that respect, and that can't be dismissed by blaming it on the hardware specs alone.
I just hope Adobe is working on that.
LR3 is a fantastic program that I would not want to work without. Often I have to work on a lot of photos with a very tight deadline. Without LR it would be impossible.
Thank you,
ErnstK

You are right Samoreen.
I posted my above message in July 2010 and this topic has been re-opened by Adobe under the thread Lightroom 3.3 Performance Feedback
I think it would be best if everybody would post their concerns only under this thread.
Otherwise we'd have two different threads for the same issue.
So let's close this one here.
WW

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DonRicklin wrote:
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That's what I did and, voila, my catalog is healty again! :-)
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I searched a little both here and Google and am now convinced this is not possible in LR. Please let me know your thoughts.
I want to select a specific area, say bottom half of the image, and then desaturate blue by 50% and aqua by 25%, without affecting any other colors at all.
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Oggodei81,
regarding color change with the adj brush:
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auctioneer wrote:
The title is a little dramatic but I really need to find a resolution to this problem.
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