Create a Dual Wireless Network

Right now, I'm using Airport Express to create a wireless network and I have my routers' wireless disabled. I get a transfer rate of about 130 on Apple TV and Macbook Pro and 54 on the iPhones. My set-up is:
Gigaset SE567 W/Lan DSL4 port wired/wireless router.
-hard wired to iMac and Win7 PC
-hard wired to Airport Express
Can I make the Router a 2.4 GHz 802.11g/b wifi for iPhones and set the Airport Express as an 802.11n only (5 GHz) for my Macbook Pro and Apple TV?
Would there be an increased transfer speed for the Macbook?
Would the Macbook still see the iMac on a shared network (Airport is turned off on the iMac)?

You have a "roaming" network when ethernet connections are used for communications between the wireless access points and the main router. This type of "ethernet backbone" design provides the best bandwidth for the wireless network.
Technically, you have multiple wireless networks. But the fact that they have the same network name, security and password allows them to function as if they were all one large combined network. Each wireless access point will use a different channel than the others and should be separated by at least 3-4 channels to minimize interference. Normally, the Automatic channel setting will do this for you "automatically".
An "extended" network is "one" wireless network and all access points use the same channel.
I'll let Tesserax tackle your other question

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How to use Airport Extreme to create a second wireless network with different IP addresses behind an existing modem/router?

Hi,
I have an existing modem/router from my ISP that does DHCP and NAT with base IP 192.168.1.1 distributed in the wireless network. I use this wireless network for our private devices. I could turn off the DHCP server in this first router, but there isn't a separate setting to turn off NAT.
I want to connect my Airport Extreme (4th gen) to this existing router to create a separate wireless network for visiting guests, where IP addresses of 10.0.0.0 etc. are used. So I do not want to use the Airport Extreme in bridge mode, as I would like to keep the devices on the first network 'invisible' for those on the second network. (P.S. when connected in bridge mode, the Airport works well and can distribute a network with a different name from the first. It's just that I would feel more comfortable about our privacy if the Airport were to distribute a different IP range. False security, maybe?)
I've tried doing this by 'Sharing a public IP address' in Airport Utility's Internet tab, leaving TCP/IP's setting to 'via DHCP', setting DHCP addresses to start with 10.0.0.2 up to 200 with all else blank, and not using a standard host nor NAT-PMP in the NAT tab.
When I do this the Airport complains of a 'double NAT issue'. Internet connectivity seems to be OK, but when switching between the two networks on my Mac I get complaints about my IP address being in use by another device intermittently.
Can anyone help in how to get the 'double NAT issue' resolved?
Thanks!

So if someone is connected to the modem/router network they will be able to see the HD I will have put in to the AirPort Extreme?
As I said above.....since the modem/router and AirPort are bridged, devices on the modem/router wireless will be able to "see" devices on the AirPort wireless, and vice versa.....
If they can see the HD connected to the AirPort Extreme, will they be able to access it
Yes, unless you plan to password protect the drive connected to the AirPort Extreme.
or will they still need the password needed to get onto the AirPort Extreme network?
The modem/router and AirPort Extreme are bridged. They are on the same network. All devices are on the same network when the modem/router and AirPort are bridged. Not sure how else that I can say this.
Also, because it is bridged, I shouldn't have any problems accessing the HD I will have connected to the AirPort Extreme from an external location?
Accessing devices from a remote location is never easy....and a topic for a different post/discussion. If you have a "static" Internet IP address from your provider, and have all the details on how to forward ports on your modem/router, you are off to a good start.
Apparently there is some addressing issues because devices can be seen as "Double IP" because the modem/router would have allocated IP's as well as the AirPort allocating IP's thus making connections slower until resolved
When you "bridge", all IP addresses are issued by one device. There will be no conflicts on the network, since they are bridged.
Once again, in very simple terms, you have two doors (access points) that open into the same room (network). One "door" is the modem/router and the other "door" is the AirPort Extreme. They are on the same network....("room") because they are bridged.

HT1178 Do I want to create a new wireless network or join my current network? I can't connect an ethernet cable to the Mac / printer and to the wireless modem at same time - in two different rooms.

I am trying to set up Time Capsule so that I can do my first backup (after 1 1/2 years!) with Time Machine. I have read other forums, but in each case they instructions eventually do not apply.
I have connected my TC to my existing wireless router. This sits in a bedroom and cannot be moved as a rental home.
I have plugged in the TC and updated the software.
Now - do I want to A Create a New Wireless Network (remember I can't connect the TC to Mac using an Ethernet cable). B Replace an existing base station or wireless router with TC (only intend to use for TM as don't know other benefits as of yet). or C want TC to join current network.
Thinking C. If I choose C, it then asks A TC to wireless join current network (NO as already connected using Ethernet). B want to connect TC to my network using Ethernet to extend my existing wireless network. C want to disable the wireless network on this TC and connect it to my computer or network using Ethernet - CANNOT do this as devices can not be in the same room.
Or do I want to create new wireless network - first set of questions - choice A? What is the benefit to creating a new one when I won't be in this rental house for longer than 18 more months??
Please help and quickly! Thanks!

Let me suggest some things.
But first ask exactly what wireless router you have now and what type of broadband service?
Are you happy with the wireless on the current router? If so, then you can plug the TC straight into whatever computer you have by ethernet, short 1M cord with no connection to the network. And use it without affecting your existing network at all. This is trivial setup.
Although you don't say exactly what Mac and printer you are using, is it a desktop? Laptop it is definitely easier not to plug it in, but a desktop you can plug in the TC and it will all sit happily together.
How is the printer connected and to what?
I am not sure why you need such quick help.. this is all minor setup stuff.. and 18months in todays world is like permanent man.
Your multiple A, B, C are more confusing than helpful.
The best choices without more info.. are to replace the existing wireless router with the TC. ie your option B.. but how to do this depends on the type of connection. Is it cable or adsl? Can you easily bridge the existing modem router.. if that is what it is?
Think carefully in the ideal world what would you like..
and what do you have..
We can probably suggest ways and means to fit what you like to what you have.. without introducing a stack of options that are doing your head in.

Creating a seamless wireless network with 2 AExpress units

I have 2 Airport Express units in different parts of my house. I have struggled for YEARS trying to get them to create one seamless wireless network with the same name that I could float between. I have never been able to get that to work. anyone?
I know that some of the problems MAY have to do with the non-apple router settings, but I just have never gotten a clear response form anyone about weather it is doable, and/or worth doing. I would settle for 2 seperate wireless networks that didn't compete with each other and/or constantly need re-booting to stay active. I am generally the most tech savvy person I know and am consulted on IT by friends and colleageus regularly, but I just cannot figure this one out..
I am totally capable of setting this up, both in the router and the AE units, if someone can just tell me that;
1) yes it is possible and it will work, and
2) just set it up like this...

Thanks for the clarification. Check your AirPort Express devices one at a time, but other than different device names to avoid confusion.....AirPort Express 1, AirPort Express 2....for example, the settings should look this:
Open AirPort Utility , select one AirPort Express, click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below th row of icons
Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network
Wireless Network Name = Your choice
No check mark needed next to "Allow this network to be extended"
Radio Mode = 802.11n (802.11 b/g compatible) a good choice, but you can choose other combinations by holding down the option key on your Mac while you click on the selection box
Channel = Automatic
Wireless Security = WPA2 Personal an excellent choice if all of your devices are compatible with this setting
Wireless Password = Your wireless password
Confirm Password
Click the Internet icon
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Update to save settings
Configure AirPort Express 2 exactly the same way and Update to save settings
Then, power down the entire network.....all devices....order is not important
Wait a moment, then start the modem/router first and let it run 2-3 minutes by itself
Start each AirPort Express the same way
Start each other network device one at a time about a minute apart
Check for proper network operation
IF....you did not have your AirPort Express devices in Bridge Mode before.....that is the reason why you are having issues now and also is the reason why the "roaming" network was not working.....assuming that there was a reasonable overlap in wireless coverage between the 2 Express devices, of course.
If you want to try the "roaming" setup again, assign the exact same wireless network name, security and password to both Express devices and confirm again that both are setup in Bridge Mode as the very last step before you click the Update button in AirPort Utility.
Power down the entire network and start up in sequence as well as in the example above.

Can I use the Airport Express to create a secure wireless network in a wireless-only hotel?

Can I use the Airport Express to log onto an unsecured hotel wireless network, without an ethernet cable, to create a secure wireless network for my MacbookAir, IPad, IPhone, etc.? If so, how is that done?

will the Airport Express allow you to log onto a hotel wireless network, and broadcast a secure wireless network in your room for your wireless devices, like the Ipad, Iphone, etc.?
The bottom line with a single AirPort Express is no.
The AirPort Express can only "extend" a wireless network when the network is being provided by another Apple router.
As you might imagine, it is extremely unlikely that that the hotel network....which no doubt uses professional wireless access points provided by a manufacturer of commercial systems.....would be compatible with an AirPort Express.
In many years of travel domestically and internationally, I cannot recall a time when a single AirPort Express would "extend" the signal provided by a hotel's wireless network.
However, if you had two AirPort Express devices handy, you might be able to configure one to "join" the hotel network and provide an Ethernet signal to the second AirPort Express, which would be configured to "create" your own "private" wireless network.

Can I use airport express to create a local wireless network that my apple tv can connect to for AirPlay/mirroring in student halls/dorm without Internet connection

Hi I was wondering :
Would I be able to make a local wireless network using airport express that my apple tv can connect to which in turn is connected to a projector with hdmi in so that I can mirror/AirPlay from iPhone pad and mac

will the Airport Express allow you to log onto a hotel wireless network, and broadcast a secure wireless network in your room for your wireless devices, like the Ipad, Iphone, etc.?
The bottom line with a single AirPort Express is no.
The AirPort Express can only "extend" a wireless network when the network is being provided by another Apple router.
As you might imagine, it is extremely unlikely that that the hotel network....which no doubt uses professional wireless access points provided by a manufacturer of commercial systems.....would be compatible with an AirPort Express.
In many years of travel domestically and internationally, I cannot recall a time when a single AirPort Express would "extend" the signal provided by a hotel's wireless network.
However, if you had two AirPort Express devices handy, you might be able to configure one to "join" the hotel network and provide an Ethernet signal to the second AirPort Express, which would be configured to "create" your own "private" wireless network.

Creating a Separate Wireless Network With no Ethernet

Hello-
I am attempting to set-up my Airport Express with my receiver and speakers in order to play music wirelessly. I have successfully done so when I choose "Join an Existing Wireless network", but I have noticed that this bogs down my wi-fi network speeds tremendously.
So, instead, I attempted setting-up the Airport Express as its own wireless network in order to bypass my DSL-based, wi-fi network completely. But, when doing so, I am being forced to connect to my DSL via ethernet.
Is there a way arpund this? Or, is there a way to stream music via the airport express in a way that won't interfere with my DSL wi-fi network (or affect its speed)?
Thanks in advance!

The AirPort Express Base Station (AX) does NOT require an Internet connection in order for it to provide a standalone wireless network for streaming.
The AX would not get a Public IP address, but it would have a Private IP address of 10.0.1.1 ... and it would be providing wireless clients connected to it with Private IP addresses in the 10.0.1.2 - 10.0.1.200 range.
I just verified that this works. Please double-check your settings to see if you may have missed something.
AirPort Utility > Select the AX > Manual Setup > AirPort > Wireless
Wireless Mode: Create a wireless network
Wireless Network Name: <enter a desired Network Name or SSID>
Radio Mode: <leave the default or select a desired radio mode>
Channel: Automatic
Wireless Security: <select the desired wireless security type>
Internet > Internet Connection
Connect Using: Ethernet
Connection Sharing: Distribute a range of IP addresses
Internet > TCP/IP
Configure IPv4: Manually
IP Address: 10.0.1.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
Router Address: 10.0.1.1
DNS Server(s): <leave blank>
Domain Name: <leave blank>
Internet > DHCP
DHCP Beginning Address: <leave default or change to a desired starting address>
DHCP Ending Address: <leave default or change to a desired ending address>
Music
Enable AirTunes (checked>
iTunes Speaker Name: <leave default or enter a desired speaker name>
Advanced > Logging & Statistics
Allow SNMP (unchecked)
Your AX will still report at least three errors: 1) Configuration of WAN, 2) SNMP over WAN, and 3) Double NAT. These can all be safely ignored to stop the AX's status light from flashing amber in this configuration.

Can't create a working Wireless Network using Airport Extreme Base Station

I don't know what I'm doing wrong...
I've got the cable from the modem going to the base station. I follow ALL on screen instructions. I select "Using DHCP" because when I plug the ethernet cable into my MBP it automatically does everything for me, and has that as its setting as well.
I get to the stage where it asks whether or not I'd like it to share an IP or go into bridge mode, I'm not sure what either of these two mean...I've tried both and both result in no wireless internet.
On several occasions I get to the end, and after I do the "final" update is comes back with one problem - internet connection, saying the router doesn't have a valid IP.
I'm totally lost on what to do here...
If you need more information just ask...please...

The below procedure is described in your AirPort setup manual, but it can be a little confusing. Here is my step-by-step procedure for an AEB setup for the system you describe:
A. Setup the 'Main' Base Station:
1. Do a factory reset of your AEB (main), then turnoff the DSL Modem and the AEB (main).
2. Check ethernet cable connections:
- DSL Modem > AEB (main) WAN port;
- AEB (main) > Mac computer running OS X 10.5.x.
3. Power-on DSL Modem and wait for it to initialise.
4. Power-on the AEB (main) and start your Mac computer.
5. Open AirPort Utility and select the AEB (main) in the LH pane. Click 'Continue' and give the AEB (main) a name and an admin password (twice). Click 'Continue'.
6. Select 'I don't have a wireless network and I want to create one', click Continue.
7. Give your network a name, select WPA/WPA2 Personal and insert the wireless network password (twice) - use 13 alpha/numeric characters for password. Tick 'Remember this password in my keychain'. Click 'Continue'.
8. Select 'I connect to the Internet with a DSL or cable modem using DHCP. Click 'Continue'.
9. Click 'Update' and wait for the AEB (main) to restart.
10. Disconnect the ethernet cable between your Mac and the AEB (main).
B. Setup Client computer
1. Open System Preferences/Network/AirPort.
2. Against 'Network Name:' select your network (the name you gave it at A7).
3. Click 'Advanced' and select TCP/IP. Against 'Configure IPv4:' select 'Using DHCP', then click 'OK'.
4. Click 'Apply' and exit System Preferences.

Can't create a working wireless network (with AEBS N station)

I have a new Airport Extreme Base Station (802.11n), firmware 7.2.1 and a PowerMac G4 running Leopard, with the built-in Ethernet port dead, fried by a storm.
I installed a PCI Gigabit network card which works great. I have a static IP, and no more DSL modem. I am connected directly (via fiber) to my ISP. I purchased the AEBS N to create a wireless network for my iPhone and my laptop(soon to come). But after "successfully" setting up the base station with my IP settings I cannot connect to Internet. I believe that the base station or the actual firmware is not "smart" enough to "look" to anything else but the built-in Ethernet port. It simply tells me that there is nothing connected to the WAN port (even-though I was able to upload all the settings to the AEBS)
AEBS Settings: Create a wireless network,Share an IP address, router mode and Mac connected via DHCP. The wireless network is visible by clients , but they also can't connect to the Internet.
What is wrong? Should I set AEBS in BRIDGE mode? Can someone, please help?
Thank you in advance!

Duane, Thanks for your reply!
I used to be connected via a DSL modem, but now, my ISP removed the modem saying is no longer needed and I am connected only to a wire.(so that means I am part of a LAN I guess) They say is fiber optic up to my block of flats. They have a box on the staircase from where multiple wires goes to apartments! I believe lies a switch in there...!All I know for sure is that I have a static IP and all these numbers I uploaded to the base station! All I have is the amber flashing light and the "nothing connected to the WAN port" msg.
I tried to set the device in bridge mode, but no luck! No Internet!When I connect directly to my mac everything is fine!
They said no problem if I want to put a wirless router in the house!Should I ask them for any specific settings?
Repeat: The Ethernet port I use is from a PCI card. The built in Ethernet is dead! Can this be a reason?
Please let me know if you need other details!

Can I create a second wireless network using an Airport Extreme?

Does anybody know if the following is possible?
Cable Modem wired to Airport Extreme 5th gen -> Wireless Internet via Guest Account -> Airport Extreme 5th gen->
Create Secondary Private Network -> Internet distributed Wirelessly to clients on Secondary Network (Mac Mini, ATV 2)
Thanks for any thoughts!

Would it be possible instead to link a second Airport Extreme wirelessly to a secure network on the first,
Yes, if you link to the "main" wireless network on the first AirPort Extreme.
then create a secondary private network,
No, but you could "extend" the "main" wireless network to provide more coverage and also enable the Ethernet ports on the second AirPort Extreme.
If you connected yet another router to one of the Ethernet ports, you could configure it to create another wireless network with its own password.
But cients on the "main" network would be able to "see" devices on the other "private" network and vice versa.

Creating a Dual Band Network

I have the newer Airport Extreme Base Station, with N capability, before it supported Dual Band. I also have an Airport Express. What I want to do is broadcast a network in my home with 5GHz for my Macbooks and a second network on the AE at 2.4GHz for everything else. I've tried many times to get this to work, and I keep getting the error message that the DHCP overlaps with the AEBS. What should I do? I know this can work somehow.

Hello Rad Mac. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Setting up a "dual band" network is described in the Designing AirPort Networks document, starting on page 48. Please check out the document and post back if you still have any questions.

Why does wi-fi signal disappear when I create a dual band network?

I have an Airport Express (4th Generation), and I am trying to setup a dual-band network. My wife has a new 15" MacBook Pro and I am running a iMac (Version 7,1), which I purchased in March 2008. From what I have researched, I should be able to run a dual-band network; however, as soon as I set up the 5GHz network, my iMac loses wi-fi and I cannot join my network even though it appears in the wi-fi status in the menu bar (the MacBook Pro is just fine). Am I doing something wrong or is my iMac simply not compatible?

Are you trying to join your iMac to the 5GHz band or the 2.4GHz band? The problem may be that the 5GHz band does not transmit well through thick walls and it might not be reaching your iMac with a good enough signal strength. As far as I am aware the 2008 iMac does support 5GHz connectivity however someone else might know better.
Try joining the 2.4GHz network and see if that helps.

AEBS and Airport Extreme to create dual wireless networks

Sorry if this post is redundant, but I am not sure I put in the right place before.
I would like to know if this is possible.
I have an AEBS that has several n and g wireless clients. I would like to have dual networks; one n only and one g only. Can this be achieved by the following:
1. Connect cable modem to AEBS (which is set to n only) and has one network name.
2. Use an ethernet cable from one of the three ports in the back of the AEBS to an Airport express which would generate a second network with a different name for my g only devices.
Will this work? Thanks in advance!

T Lowell wrote:
Sorry if this post is redundant, but I am not sure I put in the right place before.
I would like to know if this is possible.
I have an AEBS that has several n and g wireless clients. I would like to have dual networks; one n only and one g only. Can this be achieved by the following:
1. Connect cable modem to AEBS (which is set to n only) and has one network name.
2. Use an ethernet cable from one of the three ports in the back of the AEBS to an Airport express which would generate a second network with a different name for my g only devices.
Will this work? Thanks in advance!
Yes, it should. I have a similar setup myself (except I have an Airport "Extreme" BS G for my "g" band). However, do you have an Airport "Extreme" BS G or an Airport "Express" G/N to supply your "g" band? Your post's subject Title and Body's information conflict in this regard.

Can I create two separate wireless networks?

At this time I am using my own wireless router Netgear WNDR3700. Works well.
I would like to add second router (Dlink DIR825) but not as repeater or access point.
Can I connect both directly to to Cat 6 coming from OMT thru the Ethernet switch creating 2 separate networks?
With its own SSID's and use the second network to connect in the garage where my signal is week from the netgear. Is it possible?
Solved!
Go to Solution.

PGJK wrote:
Somebody on this forum a few weeks back said this could be done.
If it can it would be a violation of your TOS as for it to work you would havve to be acquiring two dhcp addresses from the VZ network.
Tech support told me that installation of router downstram of ActionTec router does not violate TOS. It merely remove Verizon support & ActionTec's router from the loop for Internet services, and of course its no longer Verizon's problem should any problems arise on the installed router or it's network (CAUTION: this is done at your own risk). In theory that could be hardwired or wireless. Those services which retain connection from the ONT to Verizon's ActionTec router will similarly retain viable Verizon responsibility and FIOs support.
I don't think he's connecting his router to a VZ router.
I think he's suggesting connecting a switch directly to the ONT and then 2 routers to the switch. That will give him 2 VZ DHCP addresses

Using Multiple 871W Routers to Create a Single Wireless Network

My company purchased 5 Cisco 871 W Wireless routers, and we'd like to configure them to act as single wireless LAN so that users can move around the building with their wireless devices and not experience an interruption in their connection. What do we need to do to make that happen?

This will work fine as long as you are only performing layer 2 roaming. If each 871s WLAN resides within a different subnet the client will need to pick up a new IP address each time it moves between Routers.
If all Routers are configured within the same client subnet then the SSID and security settings will also need to match on each 871.
Bear in mind if you are using 802.1x auth then a full re-auth will be required for each roam as there is no central key management which will increase latency.
Lastly AP placement and channel settings are most important, remember for data to have a cell boundary of -75dBm with a cell overlap of 10% sticking to channels 1,6,11.
Will you be running voice on the WLAN?
Hope this helps.
Mat

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