Create a DVD playable on PAL & NTSC.

Hi
I am using Encore CS3 and would like (NEED) to create a DVD that will play on both PAL and NTSC DVD players. I have read in forums the following theory...
Master my content at 23.976 and then import it into Encore. After output it will be interlaced by any DVD player to either 30 or 25 interlaced fps.
When I try and import into Encore I am only given the option of PAL (25fps)or NTSC (29.97), so which do I choose and how can I be sure that My final DVD is in fact 23.976 fps and will play on any format?
PS, This is all very new to me as I am a 2D illustrator by trade!
Thanks in advance

I live in London, UK and work for a TV company that produces shows for PBS
in the US. I have never had any problems here playing NTSC discs.
They do look a little softer than PAL ones, since the picture is stretched a
little but not so the average user would notice. The only problem that might
crop up is if someone is using such an old TV or monitor, and we are talking
very old here, the picture could play in black and white.
The reverse isn't true - we have had lots of issues with PAL discs being
sent to US clients and being unplayable.
I am sure you know this but just in case not there is one caveat... do not
add any regional code! Almost every TV professional I've worked with still
confuses regional codes, region 1 for US and region 2 for Europe with video
formats NTSC and PAL. If you do add a region code then you will find discs
will not play!
Make your discs in NTSC and region free and you should be fine 99% of the
time!

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I'm trying to create a DVD from some MiniDV tapes I've recorded, but I need to make sure it's recorded in PAL format as it's being sent overseas. I'm using the OneStep option in iDVD, but the only place I could find to set PAL/NTSC is in the preferences, which is only available when you're using a project. I created a dummy project and set it to PAL, then quit iDVD, restarted and went to the OneStep option to burn the DVD. The problem is I think it still recorded in the NTSC format because the DVD played fine on my home DVD player on my tv, which is NTSC. I checked the settings again on iDVD, and it still says PAL, but I'm not convinced it actually recorded with OneStep in PAL since it plays fine on my home system. Can anyone tell me the definitive answer to recording in PAL/NTSC using the OneStep option in iDVD? Thanks in advance.

I used OneStep once... Don't like it. So I'm not much help there, but...
I just returned from an Italian-based cruise ship and bought their DVD of the cruise. I became acquainted with the videographer since he was on a few excursions we took. When I bought the DVD, he was there and I asked about whether I needed NTSC for back home. He said: "It doesn't matter with DVDs." Apparently, he was right because I went back to my cabin and played it in my PowerBook without any trouble. Same here in the USA.
So maybe it doesn't matter, but I can't tell you that with 100% assurance.

Creating bad DVDs

My daughter got new MacBook for graduation and loves it very much. Everything works fine except that if copying or creating video DVDs they come out bad. Sound is there but picture is vertical colored lines or some kind of heavy pixelation that is unrecognizable.
I am suspecting that first time when she went to play DVD that she didn't select right region or something like that. Somewhere in settings I saw that NTSC is selected. I don't know how to change or fix this problem. Please help, thank you in advance
Zack

Copying commercial DVD releases does not work with any software from Apple. It is technically illegal to do this, and although it can be done, nobody here would be allowed to discuss or promote the ways to get around any copyright issues. You will need to check with online forums that do. Google.
If you are having problems with iDVD not making playable discs of content you've created, then let's focus on the exact methods and settings you are using.
Future posts about iDVD should be made in the forum for that purpose:
http://discussions.apple.com/category.jspa?categoryID=128

Create a DVD playable on PAL & NTSC.

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