Create Font Outline

I am working with AI CS version 11.0.0 on a mac powerbook with OS 10.4.11.
I have worked up a postcard using AI and am trying to outline all the fonts. I tried using Type > Create Outlines as well as Effect > Path > Outline Object but both Create Outlines and Outline Object are "grey" (will not respond). I tried changing the font to every kind of font in my font file, but the choices remain "grey".
What could be wrong?
By the way, I am trying to outline the fonts at the request in order to send the file to an online printer. If I make a PDF of the AI file, do I still need to outline the fonts?
Marc

> Also, I notice when I Save As PDF, if I turn off "Preserve Illustrator Editing Capabilities" the PDF file size gets dramatically smaller...
Saving a PDF with that option on actually embeds a complete second version of the file in native Illustrator format inside the PDF. That's why it's larger.
Similarly, if you save an .ai file, and have Acrobat Compatibility turned on, a full second copy of the file, this time in Acrobat format, gets embedded in the file, and again the file is larger.
> Is there any problem with turning this off?
If you save the PDF with Illustrator editability off, and then open it later with Illustrator, you will find that the native objects have been "dumbed down" to the simpler objects that PDF understands. Live Blends and Brushes will be "expanded" to simple paths, text will be broken into multiple objects, etc., etc.
I save my AI files with Acrobat Compatibility on. That lets me Place them in InDesign. InDesign doesn't really use the .ai content. It uses the PDF content. But if you use the Edit Original command, Illustrator will be launched, the native Illustrator content will be opened, and when you save it, it gets updated in InD.
I almost always save my PDFs with Illustrator Editability off. That's because I don't treat PDF as an editable format (except for PDF forms). If I want a recipient to be able to edit a PDF in Illustrator, I'll not send him a PDF; I'll send him an .ai file.
Adobe's marketing used to promote this scheme with claims like "PDF is now Illustrator's native format." I say that's baloney. The fact that A can contain B does not mean that A equals B. I'm not saying the scheme is useless; I'm just saying the claims were overstated.
Acrobat's format was changed to include a tagged-off area inside of which the authoring program can write its native content. That content is ignored by Acrobat. So, as I understand it, there is nothing preventing CorelDraw or any other program that exports to PDF from similarly embedding its native content in the PDF. (Except maybe licensing fees?) But I'd bet unnecessarily bloated PDF files are now almost as commonplace on the web as oversampled raster images.
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