Create smart previews automatically in a collection

Hi everybody,
Small question;
Is there a way to automatically create smart previews inside a collection?
Now, I know how to create a smart collection of only my holiday pictures with a five star rating. That's not the problem, but is there a way that these pictures are automatically transferred into a smart preview?
Cheers for your replies!
Raymond

Hi Rob,
Well, your the software develper with Lightroom... I hope you can find a way, but then again I am realistically enough to understand that the LR-Team can't accomodate everyones wishes. Thank God, for that by the way!
In General I do wanna say... LR is GREAT, super program! Job well done! The upgrade is worth the money, especially the performance boost is super!
Just one other thing, maybe I should start a new question for this... You'll be the judge...
Phase One, I think, have something called a focus mask (http://blog.phaseone.com/tag/focus-mask/.) A mask that shows in an overlay (in the preview) the area that is in focus. Give the link a read, its very interesting and something I wish LR would have.
If you're at it, I mean develping for LR, think of a focus mask. Especially with makro/food photography its very helpful.
Ray
PS: Thanks for your quick replies. The service LR gives is very good indeed! And the help you get is very accurate! (You beat Apple at that point by miles)

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Hi Guido,
Since my other thread doesn't seem to be getting any responses, I'm pasting what I've found here. Please keep in mind I am not a beginner with Lightroom and consider myself very familiar with Lightroom's features excluding the new mobile sync.
1st message:
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2nd message:
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3rd message:
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