Creating a Places Keyword Tag

Greetings,
When I create a keyword tag in the Places category, it doesn't allow me to input the GPS coordinates.
I have some pictures that have GPS coordinates in the metadata. Is it possible to create keyword tags from the pictures, so that the new tags will have the proper lattitude and longitude?
I'm using PSE9 on Windows.
Thanks,
Shane.

If you want to transform rows to columns in your tag queries, you can use the predefined XSLT "RowToColumnTransform.xsl". You can find in MII in folder "/XMII/Stylesheets/". After flipping rows and columns, you can use a repeater to go through the rows. Use the [SAP Help link: XSL Transformation action|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_mii121/helpdata/en/43/e80b59ad40719ae10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm] to process the XSLT.
Use XPath to pick the query values and link them to your Data Item values. Also see the [XPath help|http://www.w3schools.com/xpath/default.asp].
Michael

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Neale, sorry, I didn't tell you I have PSE 11. I have a complete
catalog backup of PSE 11 on an external drive. I had a technician do
the transfer of everything from my old computer to the new; the old one
is gone. All the tags came over into the right sidebar except People. I
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People in the top menu line (Media, People, Places, Events) the people
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People listing in the right sidebar like everything else.
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I'm not very knowledgeable about Photoshop. But since People is one of
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