Creating a public wifi network

The company currently has a DSL line using a linksys router to broadcast to a small area of the factory. I want to get rid of the DSL line and move it to the WAPs that are running our corporate network so it can be used thoughout the plant, but I don't want the networks to "see" each other.
What would be the best method for doing this? If you need more details, let me know.
Thank you

We have:
- a 2911 router
- 3750 core switches (also setup as our default gateway)
- 2960 switches as our edge switches
- Aironet 1130 series AP (1131)
- Aironet 1100 series APs (1120)
I am not quite sure how much detail you are looking for in regards to setup but we have vlans for wifi, voice, data, etc.
Is setting up another vlan the best way to go, or are there other options?

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I'd like to create my own private WiFi network from a public WiFi network

I am often in locations where there are open WiFi networks and I'd like to use an Express to create a private WiFi network from the available public one.?
If the express can't do it on it's own can I add another router to make it work? I have ethernet connected PC's and NAS devices I want to use. Thanks
Regards,
Dan

If you need ethernet connections for your "private" network, an AirPort Extreme (or virtually any other router with ethernet capability for that matter) would work.
So, an AirPort Express to "receive" the public wireless signal and provide an ethernet signal to the second router which could be configured to provide both ethernet and wireless connections. Just be sure to setup the AirPort Extreme to "share a public IP address". You'll get a Double NAT message, but you can click to ignore this.
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Need to create a Separate Wifi Network @ Office

At my small biz, I have AT&T (formerly Bellsouth) High Speed DSL... Runs into a Motorla DSL Modem for the Internet connection, then to a Cisco PIX for our Firewall. I can hang an Airport off the network, but our iOS devices can't pull Exchange Email if connected to the wifi.
So I'd like to hang the Airport off the DSL Modem... I first tried with an old Airport Express, wifi network was fine, but couldn't get Internet no matter how I set it up. The DSL Modem is making the connection, but I'm unsure how I create the Separate Wifi Network with the Airport connected directly to it.
I'm going to use a Time Capsule A1254 rather than the Airport Express... a little direction would certainly help.
Thanks! Scott

The Motorola is a Netopia 3347-02-1022 gateway device. We do authenticate with PPPoE, which is being managed on the 3347. We have a static IP, the PIX gets the internet from the 3347, our domain controller handles DHCP.
I assume that you are getting a single static Public IP address from your ISP and that is is "applied" to the 3347 gateway's WAN interface ... correct? I am also assuming that the 3347 is handling the NAT service with your DC handling DHCP for the issuance of Private IP addresses on the local network.
The AirPorts are consumer-grade routers and do not offer any VLAN functionality ... other than the Guest network feature of the 802.11n Extremes and Time Capsules. As such, any VLAN-type network "subnetting" would not be possible. At best, you can enable NAT & DHCP in combination to allow the wired/wireless networks behind the AirPort's NAT to have a different Private IP address range. Note: There is no option to disable DHCP separately with the AirPorts. You basically have three options: 1) NAT & DHCP enabled, 2) NAT disabled & DHCP enabled, or 3) Both NAT & DHCP disabled. These options are controlled with the Connection Sharing option on the Internet Connection tab of the AirPort Utility.

Third-Party apps can't connect to public wifi networks.

When I connect my iPhone to my university's Wi-Fi connection, Apple Apps (Safari, Mail, iTunes, App Store...) all function normally. But when it comes to third-party apps I can't get them to connect to the internet. So is there a workaround to this? Maybe get iPhone to treat apps as an "Apple App" so the proxy server gives it access to the connection (The server requires a username and password verification to connect). This happens with other public wi-fi connections. I dunno if I'm giving all the necessary info. so if anything is unclear, I can explain further...
Thanks
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You don't give any examples of the apps that are not working.
Some public WiFi networks will only have certain network ports open, like those for web and mail. If an app uses an unusual network port then it may not work on the public WiFi network.

Having difficulty connecting to 'The Cloud' public WiFi network (UK) with iPhone 5?

Is anyone else having difficulty connecting to 'The Cloud' public WiFi network in the UK with iPhone 5? (It's the free WiFi network for Caffe Nero, Pizza Express, Phones 4U, and Ambassador Theatre Group amongst others. It's run by BSkyB and is also available to Sky broadband customers)
WiFi works fine everywhere else (so it's not an iOS 6 problem, and I am running 6.0.2) but attempting to connect to "_TheCloud" gets instant 'Unable to connect to network' message. Going to Settings>WiFi>_TheCloud reveals that all the fields (IP Address, Subnet Mask etc) are blank.
It used to work fine on my 3GS, and also works on a colleague's 4S. However both my and my boss's iPhone 5's get the 'Unable to connect..." message.
Anyone know how to solve this problem? Or has anyone else even had this problem? There seems to be little reporting of it online.
I've tried emailing The Cloud, but have yet to receive a response.

I found out why there was a problem with The Cloud network I was trying to connect to: The Cloud's equipment at the venue wasn't able to cope with newer devices.This has now been upgraded, and my iPhone 5 connects fine.
Have you tried connecting at different Cloud venues? I discovered that it was a venue problem when I successfully connected to a local Pizza Express's Cloud.

Does the RE1000 create a second wifi network w seperate SSID?

I just bought the Netgear and I don't like it because it creates a second wifi network with a second SSID. I just want to be on the same network and not have to associate all my devices with a second network.
Does the RE1000 create a second SSID network?

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Creating a local wifi network between macbook and iphone

Hi there
I'm in a hotel and want to move some files to my iphone, but the computer I have isn't my synching machine. I would like to create a wifi network that the iphone and the macbook can both join. I also have an older airport express on hand, and am using Snow Leopard on a newer macbook pro.
I've tried creating a wifi network on the macbook and joining from the iphone, but the iphone can't see the network even when specified manually.
I've also tried making a network with the airport express, but the same thing happens as with the macbook.
I feel like this should be do-able, but I'm missing something. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,
I have been trying this for days now without success! I seem to create a computer to computer network ok (although I dont know if I should use dhcp or dhcp with manual or manual ip setting..??), and my iphone recognises the wifi name I give it.... but shows a different ip address!
and when I try the desired app (iosc), it doesnt seem to be transmitting any iosc data to my max/msp patch. Is there a simple test to check if the iphone is actually connecting ? - even though the ip addresses are different (weird!?)..
any help very much appreciated...

Airport Joining public WiFI network

I am building a small restaurant, and will be served by a municipal WiFi network. Can I use an Airport/Extreme to access the WiFI net to provide an access point for my POS system and an (Ooma) VOIP phone? I use an Airport network at my other location to extend WIFI all over the place, but the Airport Extreme is plugged into a DSL router. Will and Airport connect to another network? I was hoping I could set-up my own little Airport net inside, and use the Muni WiFI to connect to the Web.

Can I use an Airport/Extreme to access the WiFI net to provide an access point for my POS system and an (Ooma) VOIP phone?
Sorry, but no.
However, you should be able to use an AirPort Express to "join" the WiFi network and then connect an Ethernet cable from the LAN <--> port on the Express to the WAN (circle of dots) port on an AirPort Extreme and configure the Extreme to create your own private wireless network.
Will and Airport connect to another network?
Yes, if you use an AirPort Express, but the Express cannot both connect to and then extend a third party network. That is why you will need to use another AirPort router to create a wireless signal. Unless you need the extra features of an AirPort Extreme, you could use two AirPort Express devices.

Issue when travelling Europe and connecting to public WiFi networks

I often have an issue when travelling in Europe and go to an Internet café with my iPhone.
I enter all the info and in wifi settings the network is ticked to say connected. The wifi icon is also visible in menu bar but whenever I try to connect I get a message that page is not available or to check settings.
Can't see anything wrong and settings are as they normal are when connecting to wifi at home in UK.
I also get this when connecting to free public wifi even when it requires no password
Any ideas why this may be? Travelling this weekend and am sure this will be an issue whilst away so would like to get to bottom of it.
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Thanks for the suggestion but that is not practical once I arrive to Spain.
Will not be taking a Mac to restore from if there is an issue.
Restore network settings is worth looking at but full restore of iPhone is out of the question. Just wondered if this is a known issue with a simple fix.
All seems a bit like using a sledgehammer to crack a nut ;-)

If I connect a time capsule via ethernet to an existing internet connection and use it to create a private wifi network for my wireless devices, will other users on the primary network (not the private wifi one) be able to access my files on my TCapsule?

Like it says in the title basically.
I want to use a time capsule to store my files and backups and access it from my phone and MacBook Air. However I do not want the others in my house who are currently connected to the same wifi/ethernet router to use my connection or my TC hard drives.
I had also been thinking about wirelessly extending the wifi network (a linksys N router) but I guess that will allow everyone to access my Time Capsule?
I hope you guys can help me.
Regards, Guido

......will other users on the primary network (not the private wifi one) be able to access my files on my TCapsule?
No, if you have not provided them with the Time Capsule device password.
Users will be able to "see" the Time Capsule icon under the SHARED heading in the Finder on their Macs, but they will not be able to access the drive or the files.
I had also been thinking about wirelessly extending the wifi network (a linksys N router) but I guess that will allow everyone to access my Time Capsule?
Same answer as above.

How to create a bigger wifi network?

Hello,
I am a macbook user and I have a virgin superhub in the front room in my house, can I put a airport express at the back of the house and connect to the virgin superhub to get a bigger wifi network and maybe get a wifi signal in the garden?
thanks for any suggestions.

but I could do it with 2 airport express units?
Yes, one AirPort Express would need to be located in the vicinity of the hub. In order to extend wirelessly, the second AirPort Express would need to be located approximately half way between the first Express and the garden area.
Any walls, ceilings, or other obstructions in the signal path between the AirPorts and the garden area will really absorb the signal quickly, so you will need to minimize obstructions as much as possible.
You never really know how well....or if....wireless connections will work for your purposes until you try things out in your home. For that reason, if you decide to give it a try with two AirPorts, it might be a good idea to understand the store's return policies before you buy.

My iPad 2 won't connect to Public Wifi Networks

So a few weeks ago I was at a cafe and tried to connect my iPad 2 to the wifi network of the cafe with no avail. I have tried rebooting multiple times, resetting network settings a couple of times, have tried most about anything but my iPad will only connect if I'm standing next to a router. Even then the signal that it's receiving it's not full. I don't know why this is happening please can someone help me out? It's really frustrating!!!

Have you tried ....
Rebooting your router?
Turning WiFi off and then on again?
Settings>WiFi>Network name>Forget this network? Find the network again, tap on it, enter the password?
Settings>General>Reset>ResetNetwork Settings? Find your network again, tap on it, enter the password?
Restart the iPad? Restart the iPad by holding down on the sleep button until the red slider appears and then slide to shut off. To power up hold the sleep button until the Apple logo appears and let go of the button.

HT2421 If I attach a hard drive to the USB port, can I access it from the wired network, while simultaneously creating a separate wifi network with NO access to the hard drive?

I already have a wireless network (call it Network A) with connectivity to various wired and wireless devices. I have a USB hard drive that I directly attach to my MacBook Air. I use it for Time Machine backups and general storage. I would like to move this drive to an AirPort Extreme. I would like to continue to be able to reach it via Network A, but also use the AirPort to create a guest Network (Network B). I don't want the guest network to access the hard drive.
Now, I know I can plug a hub into the USB port and put (I hear up to 3) hard drives on it. Can I determine which ones are accessable by Network A, and by Network B?
Bonzo...

Several things to consider.
You cannot create a wireless network for guests if the AE is bridged. It has to be the main router in the network.
You cannot use the existing TM backups on the USB drive.. if you plug into a network it will need to be wiped.. and only AC model can produce reliable TM backups.. the earlier models are not reliable for TM backups.
See http://pondini.org/TM/Airport.html
These two factors alone may be enough to make you reconsider.
If you can create a guest network.. and you can overcome the limitations of airdisks.. then any person on the guest network should not be able to access the disk drive.. but if you wish to go ahead Bob Timmons might be able to confirm it.. I stay away from USB drives on routers.. I do not and will not use a router as a NAS.. it is underpowered and simply unsuitable long term.. a cheap single disk NAS is many times faster.. more reliable.. and has a marvellous thing called backup.. no USB disk or even internal disk in a TC can back itself up. .nor can TM backup network drives.. so any data you store on a USB drive is going to be gone one day.. unless you go to great lengths to back it up .. to where.. another USB drive plugged into another router somewhere.. the definition of slow.. should be copying files between two usb drives in an apple network using wireless. You will experience new levels of pain and suffering.. likened to the belly of the Sarlacc.

Can't see public wifi network

Hi!
I want to connect my macbook pro with an open and free internet network in my neighborhood. I could always connect to it with older mac's + istumbler (but that software doesn't work anymore with snow leopard) and with windows xp (which uses a realtek software to control de wireless card of that computer).
Now that I have this new notebook, I can't see that network on the airport list that appears when I click the airport icon ... but it does appear when I look at the System Profiler list of surrounding networks.
Another information that could help, is that the name of this hidden free and open network, is exactly the same as another that does have a wep encryption. Maybe airport extreme has to choose one of them and preferes the one with more security? Is there any way to access to that open network without the needing of extra softwares as istumbler? Any ideas?

Hello loadix. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Have you tried selecting "Join Other Network" from the AirPort dropdown list, and then, entering the Network Name (aka SSID) of this network. If there are more than one with the same name, AirPort should be able to connect to the unprotected one. However, I would be a bit cautious to the extent of using "free" networks as they could actually be Ad-Hoc networks instead where your data communications will be unprotected.

Using Airport for office network and still connect to public wifi

HI
I work in the public sector and we have open public wifi network that we can connect to, but have no control over and would never be given no access by our service user. we are a small sub contractor in a office tucked away.
We have 3 Macs and 2 wifi printers and several iPhones and iPads, our thought was to link them all and create a mini local network using the Airport extreme but still stay connected to the Wifi. as the only other option would be a 4G router but that is hit and miss with the connection.
After much stubbornness on my behalf i can not seem to fathom a way round this problem, is there a solution with the devices we have
Ian

No we can't get access from the company we work for they let us have wifi access only with no controls.
and the building has no phone access as we are in the middle of a hospital.
the office has all its devices and printers that we can't link but separately we can connect to the guest wifi

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