Creating Dual Layer DVDs

I'm trying to encode a dual layer DVD. I'm rendering the project with iDVD and creating a disk image of the DVD on my hard drive. I'm then using Disk Utility to burn the image to a DL disk. The DVD plays fine about half-way through on my DVD player and then freezes. I'm guessing the DVD player is having trouble transitioning to the second layer indicating there is a problem w/ the way it was encoded. The DVD player is functioning fine, as it does not have problems with other dual layered disks.
Is Disk Utility capable of burning a disk image formatted for dual layers onto a DVD? I don't know if iDVD is creating a bad dual layer disk image or if Disk Utility is incapable of encoding a dual layer disk image to a DVD.
Could someone please comment on what the best way to get a dual layer disk image transferred to a dl DVD using iDVD would be?
Thanks in advance.

I agree with Len. You'll have much better luck with Roxio Toast. Len is also very successful at burning from a disc image via Roxio Toast at 4x or slower. And this is really the best approach in my opinion. However I do want to point out exactly what the iDVD Help Menu states with regards to using a disc image and dual layer media. Pay special attention to the final paragraph below:
Creating a disc image of a project
You can create a disc image of your project so you can burn additional DVDs of your project without going through the encoding process each time.
Saving a disc image of your project creates a file that is formatted just like a finished DVD, except it’s not actually burned on a disc. All the media is compressed into the format used on a DVD, and you can play it on your computer by double-clicking the disc image icon and opening DVD Player.
To create a disc image:
Choose File > Save As Disc Image.
Type a name for the disc image.
Choose where you want to store the disc image.
Click Save.
You can use Disk Utility in Mac OS X to burn the disc image to a DVD when you are ready.
Note: If you burn your project to a double-layer disc, you should burn directly from iDVD rather than from a disc image. A disc-burning utility will not set the layer break according to DVD specifications and may cause playback issues.
Hope this helps
SDMacuser

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Hey @SCamm ,
To get your issue more exposure I would suggest posting it in the commercial forums since this is a commercial product. You can do this at Commercial Forums.
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