Creating network using Time Capsule, Airport Extreme and Airport Express

Hello,
Yesterday I purchased the 4th Gen Time Capsule to replace my Airport Extreme (4th gen) as my "main" router. However, I want to repurpose my Airport Extreme to extend the network AND use the Ethernet ports to connect additional devices. I will then use my Airport Express solely to "join the network" for Airplay purposes.
I connected the Time Capsule directly to my cable modem using Ethernet. I set up the Time capsule in Airport, checked the "allow this network to be extended" and used WPA2 Personal encryption. I then set up the Airport Extreme to "join an existing network" wirelessly and mimic the same network name, encryption type and password. Finally, I set up the aiport express as I mentioned above.
This setup does a great job of extending my network with increased performance. However, when I plug my Mac into the Airport Extreme using ethernet, it does not recognize. This Mac IS connected via Aiport. However, under the "ethernet" option in the Network Menu, it says "No IP Address Found."
I've searched some other forums and thought this configuration would work. Also, I apologize if this seems like and amateur post. This is my first time using the Apple support Community.
Thank you

I set up the Time capsule in Airport, checked the "allow this network to be extended" and used WPA2 Personal encryption
Those are the correct settings for the "main" router.
I then set up the Airport Extreme to "join an existing network" wirelessly and mimic the same network name, encryption type and password
The AirPort Extreme does not provide any additional wireless coverage and the Ethernet ports are not enabled if the device is configured to "join a wireless network"
Check your setttings using AirPort Utility - Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab located just below the row of icons
Wireless Mode = Extend a wireless network
Wireless Network Name = Same name as the Time Capsule wireless network
Enter a check mark next to "Allow wireless clients"
Wireless Security = Same setting as the Time Capsule wireless network
Wireless Password = Same password at the Time Capsule wireless network
Confirm Password
Click Update at the lower right and allow 25-30 seconds for the AirPort Extreme to restart.
Configured correctly, the AirPort Extreme will extend the wireless network and the Ethernet ports on the Extreme will be enabled.
I good starting location for the extending device is a location about 1/2 to 2/3 the distance from the main router to the area that needs more wireless coverage.
Once you have the AirPort Extreme configured and working correctly, post back if you would like a tip to find out exactly which device....your Time Capsule or the AirPort Extreme that your laptop is connected to at any given location.

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I had a Linksys before I purchased the airport extreme. My airport express joined the Linksys network for the purpose of airtunes. This worked flawlessly from day one.
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I am trying to set up a network in the most effective way for my home and am experiencing some difficulties which I hope your support can help me overcome.
My home is constructed of concrete reinforced with steel and consequently the walls are dense and wireless signals are adversley affected. I have two wireless base stations via which I hope to provide wireless coverage to my whole home which is on the ground floor level only. My Time Capsule is located at one end of my home and is directly connected to my modem which receives the external fibre optic supplied internet connection. The Time Capsule is managed via Airport Utility 6.1. A mac is connected to the Time Capsule via ethernet cable - the Time Capsule also provides a wireless signal. Also connected to the Time Capsule via a long ethernet cable that is routed in internal cable channels within my home is an old conical shaped white Airport Extreme. The Airport Extreme is located at the other end of my house and also has a mac connected to it via ethernet and provides a wireless signal too. The Airport Extreme is managed via Airport Utility 5.6.
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Leave it off at least 30 minutes. longer will not hurt at all.
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