Creating Violent Shudder - (Artillery Blast) - WWII Documentary

Hello all
I've received some pretty good advice here on the forum. And in regard to a WWII documentary that I'm working on,
I plan on using a few Cannon GL2's, a Panasonic AG-DVC80, and a Panasonic DVX100. They all seem to be somewhat equal in capability. (within reasonable comparison to each other)
Anyway, I've assembled 20-30 WWII impressionists for a re-creation of a battle gone wrong in North West Africa 1943. In one scene, one of the veterans tells of how Rommel's 10th Panzer caught their platoon in open ground, and laid deadly artillery fire upon them.
We cannot use explosive charges, but I can simulate shells landing nearby by their reactions, perhaps camera movement, and of course sound effects. I've tried a few settings in 'Live Type', but I can't seem to get the right effect.
Was wondering if anyone has ever tried to shake physically shake the camera? Is this a 'controlled science'?
Thank you
My Web Site:
http://ww2survivorstories.com/
Message was edited by: ENIGMACODE
Message was edited by: ENIGMACODE

Camera shake can be done manually or siulated. If it's done on set, you are stuck with the baked-in effect. Do it in post.
You probably already have Motion but you will want to get After Effects. This kind of psuedodoc usually requires tons of effects. And you must anticipate the expectations and sophistication of your audience to establish the credibility and therefore expense of your effects sequences.
bogiesan

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