Creation of Operating Concern after Controlling Area

Hi SAP Gurus,
Need your help on this one:
Our client is implementing FICO in phase 1 without COPA & Product Costing. COPA will be taken up in Phase 2 when MM & SD are also implemented.
Will I have to create an Operating Concern now in Phase 1 along with the Controlling Area? or will I be able to create an Opearting Concern alone later in Phase 2?
Points will be assigned to useful answers.
Thanks & Regards,
Sangeeta

Hi
Operating Concern is at above the Controlling Area.
You can create Operating Concern later. There won't be any impact.
Because, no where you are going to assign the Operating Concern. So, it'll not impact the settings.
VVR

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