Creation of technical system and business system

Hi Guys,
Im just a beginner in SAP XI..I would like to know what will be the setup in my SLD .
My data will be coming from MS SQL and will transfer it to SAP R/3.
Is it true that I need to setup the Technical system , one for my Sender (data coming from sql ) and
one for my Receiver (data will transfer to SAP R/3).
about the Business system? do i need to create buss system for Sender and receiver?
Please help.
Thanks in advance.
aVaDuDz

Hi,
you don't have to create technical system for R/3 you should better use tcode RZ70 for selfregistering:
The specified item was not found.
And for this technical system you should create also a business system.
You should create a technical and business system for your MS SQL if it's inside of your system landscape.
Here is a good explanation:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nwpi71/helpdata/en/43/01ea90ab24235de10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
Regards
Patrick
Edited by: Patrick Koehnen on Oct 2, 2008 10:26 AM

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