Creations created using Creative Cloud Applications

If I am reading the TOS correctly, I am not able to sell any works that are created using the Creative Cloud Applications.  Can you please clarify if this is true or if I am mis-reading it.  Thank you.

8.2 You agree not to use, or to encourage or permit others to use, the Services to:
(r) Market any goods or services for any business purposes (including advertising and making offers to buy or sell goods or services), unless specifically allowed to do so by Adobe;
Unfortunately ‘Service(s)’ does not appear in art 2. definitions.
You’ll find the definition of ‘Services’ in the several ‘additional terms of use’.
That means that in order to comply with art 8.2.(r) you’ll have to act according to the definition of ‘Services’ given in the additional terms of use of the particular piece of software you’re using.
Acrobat: no definition of ‘Services’ in the additional terms of use.
CS Services Additional Terms of Use: art. 2.3.a
Adobe captivate :“Service(s)” means, individually and collectively, an Adobe hosted application.”
Within the context of the several definitions in the additional term of use I think the term ‘Services’ should be understood as Adobe’s behaviour that enables you use ‘Creative Cloud’, by granting the right to use the software, by making manuals on line accessible and by offering the possibility to download templates and examples. These are ‘the Services’ Art. 8.2.(r) forbids to commercialize. You are not allowed to print and sell the manuals. You are not allowed to use the 20 gig storage for commercial purposes. You may not use a platform to advertise your business. You could compare it with a situation where someone has a licence to use a sewing machine. The limitations in art 8.2(r) allow him to use the machine to sew clothes and sell them. He’s not allowed to rent out the machine to a third party or in any other way commercialize the apparatus itself (without consent of the owner). 8.2.(r) Is extra confusing because of the word services, possibly referring to the commercial use of platforms. Not to be confused with ‘The Services’ (Art. 8.2) referring to the behaviour of Adobe that enables its customers to use Creative Cloud.

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