Creative Suite Production Premium - *NO* Manuals

I unfortunately mis-posted this issue on a thread on another creative suite product.
I have Creative Suite 3 Production Premium and a nice large box of manuals. I LOVE the hard copy manuals. They are a nice reference when you need to find something or (gasp) read with a book in your hands.
I ordered CS4 PP and was pleased to see it arrive.....but was shocked to find a little box of media, a few cards of advertisements....and that is it!!!!
I call and was told that hard copy manuals will be available in December for something like $25 or $30!!!! And that they can be found somewhere on the media in PDF's.
I can understand a $29 piece of software doing this but for a package like this, I seriously think that reference quality manuals should be included.
JMHO
BJBBJB

I guess different people work in different ways.
I honestly never read the hard copy manuals that came with previous version
of the products. They remain shrink wrapped here somewhere. I've never found
them overly helpful and usually find the answers and explanations I'm
looking for elsewhere (books, online tutorials etc)
I suspect that Adobe surveyed the market, responded to feedback and
discontinued shipping printed manuals for cost, weight and environmental
reasons plus the fact that they're difficult to update easily, in cases of
patches, updates or errata, unlike the online livedocs.
Perhaps waiting for printed manuals to be ready may also have some impact on
shipping dates? There's also the issue of localization and translating them
into many different languages.
Those that want them can pay a small extra fee for them.
I prefer PDF manuals on DVD, or livedocs, which I can search quickly for the
small number of items I want to look up.
Regards
John Waller

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