Creative Vision:M -- FIRMWARE WARN

DO NOT UPGRADE TO THE LATEST FIRMWARE, CREATIVE HAS DISABLED FM RECORDING ABILITY TO PLEASE THE RECORDING INDUSTRY!
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(Interesting (and I think important) aside: I recently updated the firmware on my Creative Vision:M mp3 player, a player I've absolutely loved for its features, ergonomics, screen quality, you name it, there was hardly a thing about it I could find fault with. As the new firmware was installing I browsed the release notes... looking for the standard blah blah blah on what's fixed, what's new. The very last line of the notes said (paraphrasing), This firmware upgrade will disable your FM recording capability(!). WTF? It was too late for me to stop the upgrade -- sure enough, I now have a Creative Vision:M sans FM recording capability, (a feature which I was quite fond of)! Creative doesn't say whether it's RIAA induced, I have no idea why they did this... but if it IS more DRM crap, what a crock!)Message Edited by Segmented on 0--2006 04:49 PM

I thought it was already established that the removal of the FM recording funtion was due to unavoidable legal obligations.
Now I'll tell you this, when I learned there was a new firmware availible. I read the release notes as well as the comments from the consumers posted on Creative message boards and other websites. I decided that I would be much more satisfied with my Zen Vision M if I left it alone.
If I had not researched the firmware first, and just upgraded, I'd be pretty pissed off, and would have no one to blame but myself.

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Zen Vision M Firmware Problem!!! Can't deal with this thing any more...

Can't deal with this thing any more...3 Hello friends I'm new in the forum
Well as the title mentions, I'm about to throw this thing oute of the window!!!
It's a 30 GB Zen Vision M, I own it ,5 years now...
I have read all the relevant posts in the forum about this player, I tried my best, nothing really worked.....
So now I have a Zen which only boots in the recovery mode!!
I have Cleaned it Up, Formated it, and tried to reload its firmware BUT when I connect it and try to reload it, in the end it always says Firmware Upgrade Failed!!Really can't understand it!!!!!
I've communicated with Creative, i wasn't at all satisfied with their responses... I think what they're trying to do is to avoid me, and earn some time with really useless suggestions which I had already told them won't work!!!So in the end they wanted me to send my Zen in Italy and pay more than 100 Euros for what an ,5 year old mp3 player?No I prefer buying a new Cowon with that amount of money!!!
Anyways I'm pretty mad now, so I'll move to the subject..
I have Service Pack 3 Windows XP in my computer, and I did roll back on the Media Player 0 from the I had, using the instructions from a previous post. The truth is that it rolled back with less steps than it showed, and I say that because it mentions in a step that in the add-remove programms, in the Windows XP-Software Updates section, I should find a Windows Media player thing which really doesnt exist and I suspect it's the Service Pack 3 because I have done the same in a SP2 and worked exactly as the steps said..Anyway the fact is I have Windows Media Player 0 now!!!
Please someone tell why can't I upgrade my firmware... I can't deal with this anymore!!!!

KRe: Zen Vision M Firmware Problem!!! Can't deal with this thing any more..._
menios wrote:
So you say that I actually have the Windows Media Player 0, because my Zen is being recognised..
I have rebooted it several times but its just the same thing...it shows firmware problem!!
Why isn't this player working?I've seen many people, not only from here, who have the same exact problem and they gave up on their mp3... I dont have this kind of luxury to buy a new one!!I don't know whether Creative has put on this a "time bomb" or is just faulty, but I really wish it could be saved..
I'm saying it is WMP0 because the firmware file sees the player. The computer can recognize it but with WMP components that firmware file would be grayed-out..So when you reloaded the firmware did you choose "reload firmware" Before you connected it's?(That is what erases the firmware prior to uploading the firmware. If you did not do that it could cause it to fail.Do these ste
ps.
Open the firmware file,On the player format>cleanup>choose reload firmware, then connect & run the firmware file.

Zen Vision 30GB Firmware Problem - No solution wo

I have a Zen Vision 30GB (not a Zen Vision M or W, just a Zen Vision). On Friday I was trying to add songs to my Zen and halfway through adding the songs I got an error on the computer saying "player not connected". So I undocked the player, turned it off and reset my computer. Saturday morning I turned on my Zen to try to add songs again and I got the error message on my Zen?"Firmware Problem" and it put me in "Recovery Mode". The first thing I did was try to reload the firmware, but when I plugged the Zen to the computer it says "docked", but I cannot move through the menu. When I unhook it from the computer I can move through the menu. BTW I am running Windows Vista 32-bit. I have uninstalled the Zen software and installed the software off the Creative website for Vista, but when I try to run the firmware it says "Player not connected, please connect player."? When I plug the player in via USB my computer recognizes it and prompts me if I want to sync my player, so there isn't anything wrong with my USB connection. The?Device Manager recognizes it however Windows Media Player does not. I get the same error message when I try to do the Recovery Tool on the Creative website. I have looked for solutions on the forums and just doing Google searches, but I have not been able to get anything to work. Please help me!? The player is less than a year old. I have never had any problems with it before, never been dropped or anything like that, so i am not sure what is going on. Any help or suggestions would be great!? I sent an email to customer support yesterday and the reply I received this morning was no help. First they thought I had the Zen Vision M, even though I specifically said I had the Zen Vision and gave them the serial number and everything. I sent them back a message today and hopefully they can help, but it is frustrating having to send an email and wait around for a reply.

Re: Zen Vision 30GB Firmware Problem - No solution works\ I recently had this problem with a player i got off Ebay. What I did was format>cleanup>reboot the device thru the recovery screen on the the player. Problem solved . Be advised this will erase all the files (music ect.) http://forums.creative.com/creativel...ap&thread.id=3
Dragonboy wrote:
I seem to have a very similar problem as you. I have a zen vision m (30g) and i also use vista. I am getting the message "firmware problem" after is tries to "rebuild". I need some major help. I ended up giving up a while ago and bought a microsoft zune. It is not as good and i miss my zen. If anyone can give me some info it would be much appreciated.

Creative Vision:M freezing repeate

I purchased a Creative Zen Vision:M 30 GB back in August, it worked fine until about a week or so ago, when it started freezing repeatedly. Sometimes it freezes in mid-song, and I get an annoying machine gun sound. Sometimes it freezes at the Creative Logo, sometimes it freezes while rebuilding the library, sometimes it freezes when its in "lock" position. I notice that it really likes to freeze if I hit the back button and I want to listen to a song over. I've been resetting the device with a pin in the reset hole, maybe, 5+ times a day. I've reformatted the player from the reset menu, I've gone through the clean up from the reset menu, I've deleted all songs and reinstalled them twice now.
I've gone through the self-fix suggestions in the Knowledege Database. I haven't dropped it, there was no specific cause that started this problem. It is very annoying and difficult to deal with., as I use my mp3 player to jog and to work on my foreign language lessons.
Are there any other solutions to solve this problem, has anyone else had this incessant freezing of a Creative Vision:M, and/or is it time to get an RMA and return the product to Creative?
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I should add that I've reinstalled the firmware, but I have not yet done it since my last reformat of the player. I notice that the firmware is not available for download at this time, correct?

Creative Vision M help

Hi, Ive had a new laptop with windows 7 for around 6 months and a creative vision M for around 5 years. The vision M has worked fine with the laqtop till this weekend. On saturday I thought it would be a good idea to move all my music onto the laptop, incase the mp3 player ever broke. I started the process but an hour in i accidently removed the usb cable. Today I tried to start the process again and now it says "device driver not succesfully installed" when i try to connect it. However, the player still says "docked" but the pc just wont recognise what the problem is. Has anyone else encountered this problem? Im anxious to fix it as only my vision M has my music on it, and now I cant take anything off it, or put anything on. Does anywhere know if I can download a new driver?
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Well I finally decided to format?all and it did so(took about 0 minutes). Now when I plug it in it reads it and has the little window on the bottom of the screen that reads "Docked". And when it showed "Docked" which only happened every once in a while before I formated it if it said this then when I tried to add new firmware it would seem like it was working but crash right before it ended. Now even though it says "Docked" when I try to?add new?firmware it says the Zen is not connected.

Creative vision:m sk

I li've in england and am about to order a creative vision:m for my b-day. i just wanted to know if anyone knows and UK sites that sell skins that cover the screen. I've seen the silicone ones but can't find them on any UK sites.

Sounds like a bad connection internally or something else going out. Your best bet would be to contact Customer Support about your warranty status. Also, just because I know CS is going to ask you to try this, you may want to update your firmware just to eliminate the possibility of a software issue, and because you can tell them you already did it.
Also, please leave the cursing off the forums. We try to be 'family friendly' around here.
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Dale

Creative vision m 30GB resets constantly

Hello. I have creative vision M which resets few times a day. I tryed to update newest firmware or even installed old one.No changes,still resets.
Is the problem with data and i must remove everything form player?Do i have to format and place everything back?

wowerman wrote:
I have formated player and placed back all songs and videos.Now player is reseting and bringing settings to default.Why?I try update firmware and see what will happen. If this will not work then what?
When you format the player & re-add the files it will rebuild the database which sets the settings to default. It is supposed to do that.

Creative vision m display prob

my creative vision m has been acting wierd lately AGAIN :/
the screen is like blinging .. really fast like it gets lighter and then darker .. kind of hard to explain ..when im looking at a dark picture or a black one .. picture is a black jpg picture .. a normal one .. the player is displaying the pic but the its something wier d.. well it shouldnt be like this .. the picture gets lighter really fast then darker like all the time .. u cant even capture it on a video camera .. sucks .. is there something i can do to fix it ?

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Also, please leave the cursing off the forums. We try to be 'family friendly' around here.
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Dale

Creative vision:m won't go past the 3rd screen on start

Hello, this is my first post and I just got the creative vision:m for xmas and it was working fine, it has never been dropped and spends most of its time in the pouch. But when I try and start it up no it gets the the 3rd screen and just stays their frozen with all the buttons lit up and the backlight on. I tried the recovery mode and did the clean up and that didn't work, my comp also doesn't recognize when it is plugged into it for some reason, I mean the comp will recognize it but the creative programs won't recognize it so I can't even upgrade the firmware and see if that is a problem.
If anyone can hel that would be amazing because this is very frustrating.
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Edit: I just tried plugging it into my sisters computer and it didn't detect it either, so the problem is definatley with the play, THIS SUCKS!Message Edited by tmrathie on 0-4-200709:07 PM

thats what I figured, bah and its like 2 weeks old, at least its still under warranty.
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KRe: Zen Vision M Firmware Problem!!! Can't deal with this thing any more..._
menios wrote:
So you say that I actually have the Windows Media Player 0, because my Zen is being recognised..
I have rebooted it several times but its just the same thing...it shows firmware problem!!
Why isn't this player working?I've seen many people, not only from here, who have the same exact problem and they gave up on their mp3... I dont have this kind of luxury to buy a new one!!I don't know whether Creative has put on this a "time bomb" or is just faulty, but I really wish it could be saved..
I'm saying it is WMP0 because the firmware file sees the player. The computer can recognize it but with WMP components that firmware file would be grayed-out..So when you reloaded the firmware did you choose "reload firmware" Before you connected it's?(That is what erases the firmware prior to uploading the firmware. If you did not do that it could cause it to fail.Do these ste
ps.
Open the firmware file,On the player format>cleanup>choose reload firmware, then connect & run the firmware file.

Creative Vision:M Driver Softw

Greetings,
I have recently purchased the Creative Vision:M mp3 player. Unfortunetly, I am unable to install the software as my CD-ROM dri've on my computer is not working. I am wondering if there is any other way I can get the software, perhaps through Creative's website by downloading. Or could any kind soul zip the software up and send it to me.
Thanks
Jason.Singapore

Just remember most people that post on forums only do so because they have a problem. There are a lot of folks out there that never have problems and so they never post. Don't read this forum as an indicator that everyone is having these problems because that would not be true.
I have had mine only a short time, but it has worked flawlessly and I suspect it will continue to do so.
In order to use the Zen to store files, you must turn it on via the menu. Extras, Removable Disk. You can set it for 52 KB, GB, .5 GB, 2 GB, 4 GB 8 GB or 6 GB. Anytime you wish to use this space, you simply turn on the Zen, Go to Extra and Removable Disk, then plug it into the computer. It will show up as a hard dri've.

Creative Vision M Organizer Play Prob

Hey .. i've got a creative vision m 30 gb and i were able to play songs in the organizer before .. but now i cant .. i press on play and nothing happends .. the same song i used to play before .. and when i try to play some songs on the player and not from the pc it kind of lags and jumps in the songs .. and sometime switches to another song then back to the one i were listening on .. please help me
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Have you installed the latest Creative MediaSource 5. If so, try re-installing it again. Creative MediaSource 5 and its various plugins are now officially available for download at your respecti've product download sites. The main Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer:
Creative MediaSource Player/Organizer 5.0.38 (22 Dec 2006)
For mass storage series ZEN/Muvo players:
Creative Music Player (Mass Storage Series) Plugin 5.0.07 for Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer (22 Dec 2006)
For PlaysForSure ZEN players:
Creative PlaysForSure Devices Plugin 5.00.36 for Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer (22 Dec 2006)
For non-PlaysForSure NOMAD/ZEN players:
Creative ZEN and NOMAD Jukebox Plugin 5.00.22 for Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer (27 Dec 2006)
For CD Burning function:
Creative CD Burner Plugin 5.0.3 for Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer (22 Dec 2006)
For selected DTS supported Sound Blaster cards:
Creative DTS Neo:6 Plugin 5.00.05 for Creative MediaSource 5 Player/Organizer (22 Dec 2006)

CREATIVE VISION: M 30GB (NO SOFTWARE)

My friend gave me a 30GB Creative Zen Vision:M & lost the software. It had been opened once. Can I somehow download the software (Installation CD)

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Creative Vision M Usb Charg

Hello!
I've had a Zen Micor for some time but now teh hardri've has started making these beepnoises and the earphone completely **bleep**ed so I'm planning to get a new player.
I was just wondering since i have my usb charger from my Zen Micro, can i use it with a Creative Vision m? Because what i've heard they are no longer coming with an ac adapter.
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The standard will work so no need to fret about that.

Creative vision m 30gb - out of stock everywhere, is it being phased o

I was planning on using my circuit city giftcard to soon buy a creative vision m, but I noticed that most of the stores in my state say it's out of stock and the product wasn't available for shipping. Also, if you check newegg.com, the creative vision m use to be listed on there, but it's completely disappeared which is annoying me to me. My guess is that these stores are selling off their remaining stock. I just want to know if creative has discontinued this product because I don't want this video ipod. It's a possibility that their about to introduce a new hard dri've mp3 player, but I'm not sure.

Man I don't know why everyone is saying these are out of stock I see them everywhere. My local walmart has about 5 in the counter last time I was there. I also see then at best buy and circuit city. They might be a little harder to find then the ipod but they are out there. Maybe demand is up and they are just selling fast. If people where smart they would buy the VM over the ipod any day. There is no way the ipod is better then the VM but try to tell people that.

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