Creative Zen 16GB playlist using anything but Creative Media Explore

I need some suggestions for creating a playlist using anything but Creative Media Explorer. I hate drilling down throught the artist/album folders! I hate that I can't view my playlist in Media Explorer (Manage or Create Playlist) as anything but filenames. With a long playlist, it's hard to see if you've already added the song.
I can see my playlist on?WMP and Rhapsody but can't edit. Any other third party software that would help me? I guess Creative Media Source won't?work with the Zen 6GB. Thanks!

@ It could be incorrect ID3 tags on your .mp3s, if the source for your music had the wrong ID3 information, your Zen won't show the correct information unless you use an? ID3 Tag Editor to correct the source.

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"Hello, Creative Media Explorer now acts strangely whenever I try to add music purchased from iTunes. If I drag-and- drop the iTunes music using Windows Explorer, a window will pop up saying "Preparing" and then a conversion will proceed where the iTunes music is converted from the .m4a format to a .wma file. When I try to use the "Add iTunes Media" wizard from the main Creative Media Explorer window, it says "The following files are not transferred" and says "Unknown error" under the "Reason" tab. This has never happened before. I have looked up the specs for the Creative ZEN player, and it says it can play purchased iTunes music, so I should not be seeing a conversion box or an error. I have previously added iTunes music with no problems and they playback fine. The only way I can add purchased iTunes music is to directly add to the player without using the Creative Media Explorer through "Portable Devices". When I add purchased iTunes music this way, it asks me "Do you want to convert (filename) before it s copied to your device?" and I see the options "Yes, convert and copy" and "No, just copy" with a warning on the bottom that says "Your file will be copied, but might not play on your device." I add the music, and it works fine.
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4GB Ram
Gateway NV78
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Firmware .2.0
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Creative MediaSource 5.25.02

Enter LInk: http://asia.creative.com/support/downloads/welcome.asp
- Choose: MP3 Player
- Select Your Product: Zen V Plus
- Clik button Next
- Clik button Go
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In my Zen.
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here try this, works for melink

Not sure what Lame is??? does Creative media explorer & Creative mediaSource Oganizer use mp3 LA

I'm thinkin' about movin' over to Lame mp3 encoding, (right now i'm using wma 92) I'm not sure what lame is.
everyone is using mp3 format, so i said to my self "eeeh just forget about wma and join the croud".
so i wanna move over to mp3 format (Lame encoding what ever that is.)
What i wanted to know is, does creative media explorer have mp3 lame encoding?
does creative mediaSource Oganizer have lame encoding also?
what bit rate should i use for mp3 format? (I like it to be good sound quality)
thanks in advance
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Message Edited by collegeboy on 05-3-2005 07:45 PM

Collegeboy, you have several threads going on this same subject all of which together give a pretty good picture of lame vs other mp3 encoders vs wma. I know your posts in the past promote wma and that is your choice, but if you want to research this topic, visit HydrogenAudio or head-fi forums and enjoy the postings of the socalled audiophiles and true audio geeks :-)
I know that versions of lame are not all equal and that the latest version 3.96. with the right switches, is about 40% faster than previous versions and is as accurate in keeping as much of the original as it can in its encode.
Fraunhofer (Fraunhofer Institute in Erlangen Germany where they invented mp3 and hold patents) has a couple of major versions. The standard version that packages like Creative and MusicMatch use, is the FHIIs version. There is I think, a Professional Version too but that costs big bucks to license (as opposed I guess to little bucks for IIs) and note lame is free! FHIIS uses a noise reduction scheme to brickwall above 6kHz or something like that number. If you look at Lame encoded music in a frequency analysed mode, using the preset standard or preset extreme switches you can see the Lame encoding follows the original right up to 9kHz and higher and the FHIIs encoding drops off at 6KHz. That much difference is noticeable if you have the right playback equipment.
There was a comment in one of the threads you started on this, that this whole topic could be contentious. Well it is and is so subjecti've too as some folks could never tell the differences, some would never listen to their music so they could tell the difference, some would never listne to compressed music if their life depended on it and the story goes on.
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