Creative Zen Micro - Freezes when 'Rebuilding Library', does this spontaneous

I'll make this post short and sweet.
Yes, I have read the FAQ.
I'm just wondering, its happened to me twice now that when i turn on my zen micro, it goes straight to the rebuilding library screen, and when the bar gets to the end it just freezes. Replacing the battery does not help. Only until i attach it to my computer at home does the library finish rebuilding. And no, on both occasions the battery was not dead. I just found out now about recovery mode and disk cleanup.
Now, considering this disk cleanup fixes the problem next time it arrises, why is this problem happening in the first place? How can I avoid it from happening?
I'll probably be returning this product if I'm forced to replace the battery etc each time i want to use it.
Sorry for my broken english

I have had a very similar problem with my 5GB Zen Micro. I have not added music to the player in weeks but during a cold boot a couple of times a week the player will not start clean, many times hanging at the end of a library rebuild.
The player is always shutdown orderly, though most of the time it's via the 4 hour firmware shutdown included in the ..0 firmware. Each time it hangs I boot to rescue mode, run a clean-up, then reboot. During the reboot it always runs a successful rebuild, so I wonder, why didn't it do that last time and why does it keep acting up when nothing has been added or deleted to the player?
One additional note, sometimes during the boot it will hang with the ZEN screen only partially displayed.
I just deleted the firmware and reloaded ..0. Hopefully this fixes it, but stay tuned for updates...
Thanks,Doug

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I recently purchased a Black 5gb Creative Zen Micro, I was really content and happy with it...that is until I plugged it into my USB 2.0 Card. The moment I do that (I've tried plugging it in into every USB 2.0 slot, and NO, this isn't a hub, but a PCI card), The Zen Micro freezes! I have to resolve this by removing the cover and taking out the battery, then reinserting the battery. At the same time my Zen Micro freezes, a little bubble pops up on my computer screen saying "USB Device Not Recognized". I'm going absolutely out of my mind here, and am on the verge of returning the Zen Micro, and might get a replacement, and if that doesn't work, just returning the Zen altogether for a refund and getting a Rio Carbon. I really like the Zen, so PLEASE PLEASE help me out here!
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I am going out this weekend and am gonna try to buy a new USB Cable, and if that doesn't work, returning the cable, and returning the Zen Micro to be replaced. AND IF THAT DOES NOT WORK...GOODBYE CREATIVE! HELLO RIO! But please, any help you guys could give would be greatly appreciated. I will also try to contact Creative Customer Support, but I doubt they'll tell me anything new, if I could even connect to them without being put on hold.
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Hi kaic,
My Zen Microphoto has exactly the same problem you described. What I like to know is if you got it replaced or if somehow you could fix it yourself. And if Creative replaced it, which they said the problem was?
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Anyone from the Creative board or the guru around has an idea of what can I do?
would be really appreciated.

This stinks. My Zen Micro tries to rebuild library.. then..it says firmware probl

it's been doing this for ages.. any suggestions? It won't even load past that. Ever.

Hi, I am not sure if this will help you. I offered the same help to someone else. I had an issue where my Zen Vision M: was not recognized by my computer. I got lucky. I uninstalled all programs related to the zen. I then did a complete cleaning of the registry of all related zen vision m: instances. After that I reloaded all the software and when I hooked it up to my pc it recognized it. I am thinking something corrupts the computer. Like many other porgrams, even after a uninstall, a program may leave references in the registry. I used regseeker which is a free program. It does a great search for items left behind by programs. You can find it by doing a Google search. Or you can always use the regedit/run command in XP. As for your search I would obviously try "zen micro". I would stay away from using "creative", if you have any other creative product like a soundblaster you will have to sift through many entries if you do. After cleaning the registry, install the zen micro programs and hook it up and see what happens. I hope it works for you. Even though my was a Zen Vision M: I also had much the same problem including the firmware reload problem, the rebuiding library etc.Cas

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