Creative Zen MX playlist problemway

Hello, Can someone please find the way to create a playlist. Evertime i create it, then i can't find it..Many users of this mp3 player have the same problem.. I have installed the latest firmware, but still the same..
Thank you

Sorry, but this answer is incorrect. The reason the playlists are not working (as I found out after hours of searching online), is that the creative Zen MX does not support long names. I'm quite good in technical things, but unfortunately not in this part. Result is, that everyone is having problems with this issue.
I also updated my firmware (and did the reset afterwards). Also, I did try the creative software deli'vered with the player. However, that program is really slow and it is impossible to import playlists! If you create a mp3-player that does not support other musicplayers like WMP, MediaMonkey or WinAmp, at least you should have a way of importing playlists. Especially as we are talking about an 8 gig musicplayer!
I went back to the store where I bought the player and they sent it for "repair" (even though i told them it was a software/firmware issue). After 8 weeks it got back and they stated that indeed it did not work. However, I got the same model back..
Too bad. I love the player and was happy to pay 000 nok for it, but playlists are necessary. I would appreciate an answer from Creative regarding this issue. More information can be found on these websites (maybe your R&D dep. can look at it's):
http://forums.mycreativefansite.com/...st-problem/45/
http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/vie...hp?f=9&t=44380
The mediamonkey page gives a possible solution, but I prefer not to have to do this myself. A firmware update should be a better solution.
And I did email the supportteam, but got a very standard answer back.
Please someone, we paid good money for this device and we deserve a proper fix and explanation.
Thank you!

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    Summary of helpful hints (from this forum and me) for new Creative Zen MP3 2/4/8/6/32 GB (flash) Users Only!
    Rev..
    Date: 4/28/2008
    Author: ZenAndy
    Creative terminology:
    MP3 Player Recovery Tool - A program that resolves the majority of player problems quickly.
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    Note: On your Zen you can look under "System" & "Information" and then compare the firmware download
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    Note: Creative Zen 4/8/6 GB "MP3 Recovery Tool" DOES NOT stop on a firmware comparison match.
    Note: All firmware releases/revisons for the 4/8/6 GB Zen also works (is the same as) for the 2 GB & 32 GB Zen.
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    . The player is not detected in Creative MediaSource or Windows Media Player
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    3. Your computer stops responding during file transfers
    4. There is a power outage during file transfers
    5. There is an error about firmware
    6. LCD displays a "Firmware Problem" message
    7. Your player is not responding.
    8. The player is performing erratically.
    Getting Started
    . Load your Creative Zen software from CD FIRST and BEFORE plugging the Zen MP3 player, using the short cable, into the PC USB port to charge it.
    2. Try charging the Zen MP3 player directly from the USB port on the PC. If not, make sure the USB Hub you are using is adequately powered to provide full charging current to the Zen player. Also, try to have the Zen MP3 player as the only USB device, if possible, on the USB hub.
    Some/most Creative Zen flash MP3 Music players come "fully discharged" so, in the mean time, just read the manuals.
    FULLY charge the Zen MP3 player for several hours (~4.0 hrs max) until the battery symbol is NOT flashing AND the battery symbol/icon has a small plug/key symbol in the middle.
    After the first full charge - additional charging is much quicker about 2 /4 hours. (From 0% empty to full)
    3. Go to Creative/Support/Downloads and check for the latest software releases for the Creative Zen. Then check on your Zen MP3 player under System/Information for your firmware revision. Make sure you have the latest software downloaded on your PC and firmware on your Zen MP3 player. < Latest revision [.2.0] 28Feb08>
    OR
    You can run MP3 Player Recovery Tool - see above.
    4. In some cases you might have to do the Recovery Mode "paper clip reset" to get the Zen MP3 flash player started.
    See the Zen User's Guide FAQ. The paper clip reset hole is on the bottom edge below the music pause/run switch.
    (Not the slotted mic hole on the top edge of the player near the earphone jack and SD card slot!!!)
    5. My preference is to have the player shutdown/off before inserting and removing the earphone/headphone plug.
    Recovery Mode Using The Paper Clip OR
    Alternati've Method For Recovery Mode Without The Paper Clip.
    Why use it's
    If you experience one or more of the following symptoms:
    . The player is not detected in Creative MediaSource or Windows Media Player
    2. The battery does not last as expected
    3. Your computer stops responding during file transfers
    4. There is a power outage during file transfers
    5. There is an error about firmware
    6. LCD displays a "Firmware Problem" message
    7. Your player is not responding.
    8. The player is performing erratically.
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    Recovery Mode Using The Paper Clip Reset Method
    #. Turn off player if not already turned off
    #2. Press/hold play/pause button. If you accidentally release
    the button, start this reset procedure over again.
    #3. Gently push the end of a metal paper clip into the reset hole on
    the botton edge below the play/pause switch.
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    #4. Slide the on/off/lock switch towards the on position - slide it to the botton hold
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    <Alternati've Method For Recovery Mode Without The Paper Clip>
    #. Turn off player if not already turned off
    #2. Press/hold play/pause button. If you accidentally release
    the button, start this reset procedure over again.
    #3. Slide the on/off/lock switch towards the on position - slide it to the botton hold
    until the display lights up and then release. Be patient and wait!
    #4. The recovery mode screen appears and four menu items are shown:
    < Clean Up> - cleans, rebuilds and reorganizes your player's memory and restores it to optimal efficiency.
    When the cleanup is complete, select Reboot. Your player restarts and starts rebuilding its music library.
    Note: Your player's firmware is reset to default settings after your player's memory is cleaned up.
    Note: This procedure the hide/show password is reset.
    <2 Format All>- Warning - Formatting your player erases all content on your player's memory and resets your player's firmware to default settings. If possible, back up all data on your player before proceeding.
    Also, you can do this from the PC see Zen User's Guide. FAQ
    <3 Reload Firmware> - Caution !!!! Selecting Reload Firmware erases your player's firmware.
    DO NOT select Reload Firmware unless you have downloaded a newer firmware version for your player, or have been advised to do so by Creative Customer Support.
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    There are several pieces of documentation you might need to read to fully understand and use your Creative Zen MP3 flash player to its fullest capabilities.
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    #2. Zen Quick Users Guide /Front/Back - download from Creative/Support/Product documentation
    #3. Sync Manager (Creative Zen) Click on sync symbol on PC task bar then help
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    <Creative Battery Spec: 5 Hrs. Video & "UP TO" 30 Hrs. Audio/Songs>
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    "WMA files will use up more power than MP3 files, and higher bitrates more so than standard ones (like 28kbps MP3). Best thing to do is rip an album in 28kbps MP3 and leave it playing in a loop on a normal volume level. See how long the battery lasts then."
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    4. FULLY CHARGE your Zen. This means the battery symbol is NOT flashing AND there is a plug/key symbol embedded within the battery symbol. The battery is 00% FULL under BOTH conditions. Having just the battery symbol all green will not do it.
    From the link:
    http://www.omnica.com/omniview_electronics2.htm
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    B. Next, try a different USB mini cable.
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    C. Since the Zens came out late in 2007, the maximum of 300-500 charge/discharge should not apply YETbut users beware, as with any other Lithium-Ion Polymer battery it will not charge fully "like new"because of a " fixed shelf life" (2-3 yrs) OR too many charge/discharge cycles. A battery replacement is in order.
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    . The short mini-standard USB cable provided by Creative from the factory. Plugs into a PC USB port.
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    http://www.amazon.com/Earhugger-MP3-.../dp/B000QTTKSS
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    2. Airplane travel - no PC or no AC or no auto/car.
    3. Train/subway travel - no PC or no auto/car
    4. Car travel - no PC or no AC
    5. Foot travel - no PC or no AC or no auto/car
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    3. Retractable mini USB cord for wall 0-20 VAC 50/60Hz charging. (non-international use plug style)
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    Listening to the built-in music on the Zen is OK but after a while your question now becomes "What else can I do with my Zen "
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    Genres: Type or kind of music
    <The following genres are defined in ID3v>
    Blues,Classic Rock,Country,Dance,Disco,Funk,Grunge,Hip-Hop,Jazz,Metal,New Age,Oldies,Other,Pop,
    R&B,Rap,Reggae,Rock,Techno,Industrial,Alternati've ,Ska,Death Metal,Pranks,Soundtrack,Euro-Techno,
    Ambient,Trip-Hop,Vocal,Jazz+Funk,Fusion,Trance,Classical,Instru mental,Acid,House,Game,Sound Clip,
    Gospel,Noise,AlternRock,Bass,Soul,Punk,Space,Medit ati've,Instrumental Pop,Instrumental Rock,
    Ethnic,Gothic,Darkwave,Techno-Industrial,Electronic,Pop-Folk,Eurodance,Dream,Southern Rock,
    Comedy,Cult,Gangsta,Top 40,Christian Rap,Pop/Funk,Jungle,Nati've American,Cabaret,New Wave,
    Psychadelic,Rave,Showtunes,Trailer,Lo-Fi,Tribal,Acid Punk,Acid Jazz,Polka,Retro,Musical,Rock & Roll,
    Hard Rock
    <The following genres are Winamp extensions>
    Folk,Folk-Rock,National Folk,Swing,Fast Fusion,Bebob,Latin,Revival,Celtic,Bluegrass,Avantg arde,
    Gothic Rock,Progressi've Rock,Psychedelic Rock,Symphonic Rock,Slow Rock,Big Band,Chorus,
    Easy Listening,Acoustic,Humour,Speech,Chanson,Opera,Cha mber Music,Sonata,Symphony,
    Booty Bass,Primus,Porn Groove,Satire,Slow Jam,Club,Tango,Samba,Folklore,Ballad,Power Ballad,
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    ID3 Tags: Internal file information associated with an Mp3 or wav audio file. This format contains
    Track number, Album name/title, Genre, Artist and Song Title which can be sorted and indexed by
    the Zen device.
    IPTV: Is a system where a digital television service is deli'vered using Internet Protocol over a network infrastructure, which may include deli'very by a broadband connection. http://zencast.com/
    JPEG: Is a commonly used method of compression for photographic images.
    This is the only photo format used by the Zen.
    MP3 and WMA music tracks: Music format used by the Zen.
    Note: Having the wrong bit rates will drain the Zen battery faster. (See above)
    MP3: Is a digital audio encoding format using a form of lossy data compression.
    Non-protected AAC: Files are regular AAC files without any DRM: they can be converted to other formats (like MP3) and can be played on an unlimited amount of devices and burned an unlimitd amount of times. They have no restrictions.
    Podcast: Is a series of digital-media files which are distributed over the Internet using syndication feeds for playback on portable media players and computers. http://zencast.com/
    Protected AAC: Files are AAC audio files that contain DRM (Digital Rights Management), most often music purchased from the iTunes store. The Creative Zen cannot use these files.
    Note: "Itunes Plus Store" have songs without DRM which the Zen can use.
    Ripping CDs: Copying tracks from an audio CD on a PC and downloading tracks to the Zen.
    Note: Use the Creative Zen Media Explorer for ripping audio CD is one method.
    Song Title: Name of song or track
    Track Number: Numerical number of track of CD album.
    Track: General name for song or song title.
    Unprotected AAC format: Music format used by the Zen
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    WAV: (or WAVE), short for Waveform audio format, is a Microsoft and IBM audio file format standard for storing an audio bitstream on PCs.
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    Zen Media Content: Video, Music, Audio, Photos/Images transferred/dowloaded into the Zen
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    Defeating DRM MP3 Music (Digital Rights Management)
    Intercepting/copying (non purchased) music.
    Downloading music/songs from an illegal or "free" rouge website.
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    Note: Check to see if your music files/tracks contains ID3 tags.
    Note: ZEN also supports iTunes Plus tracks from the iTunes store,
    Note: The following media content is only a small fraction of means and ways
    of collecting/dowloading media content to the Zen.
    Media Content from Creative Website(s)
    Note: The Media Content can be found under "Fill your Zen" on the bottom of the Creative Zen product page.
    http://zencast.com/
    ZENcast is the ultimate source for free IPTV channels, video blogs and podcasts on the Internet. It provides quick and easy access to a wide range of interesting and entertaining video and audio content online.
    http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/cre...seBVCookie=Yes
    Audible.com - Audible.comis the Internet s leading audio provider of bestselling audio books, comedy programs and today s most relevant magazines and newspapers
    http://creative.vongo.com/
    VONGO is the video download service that gives you instant access to over 2500 hit movie and video selections from Starz .
    Watch movies whenever, wherever on your ZEN. A great entertainment venue for watching movies while on the road or on the go.
    http://www.napster.com/creative/
    Transfer unlimited music to your ZEN without paying per song.
    With Napster To Go you can:
    Choose from over 5 million songs, plus new releases every week
    Play music instantly from any internet-connected computer
    Find old favorites and discover new music by exploring playlists, radio, Billboard charts and more
    Create a library of your favorite music and build custom playlists.
    http://www.emusic.com/ZEN
    Choose from over ,500,000 songs
    Burn unlimited CDs
    Compatible with every MP3 player
    No confusing restrictions-Own your music!
    http://www.lala.com/frontend/action/...=user:2672@223
    Why pay 99per song when you can get the whole album for $At lala.com, you can trade your used CDs for new music.
    .8 million titles available for trade. CD quality guaranteed.
    Every CD you receive is yours to keep - no restrictions.
    Pay only $ per CD received. No monthly fees or commitments. Sign up is FREE.
    http://www.amazon.com/b/ &node=62663
    Buy or Rent Movies Online
    Watch DVD-quality video downloads on your PC or ZEN
    Conveniently download from your PC at work to your PC at home
    Discover thousands of TV shows & movies available for download
    I started this thread in April 08 to help other new Creative Zen MP3 (Flash) users. If there are common threads that are posted from new users then I try to make a section to inform other new users in solving their similar problems. I cannot believe that this thread was viewed over 0,000 times! Thank you for your "viewing" support.
    Please note: This thread is constantly changing so check back for any new helpful hints, problem solving, troubleshooting and practical solutions for the Creative Zen.
    "The Creative ZenR O C K S"
    Zenandy
    Message Edited by Zenandy on 08--2008 08:26 AM

    Hi,
    I'm from germany so no 'best buy' but I think I will lock around sleeve/bag for a different product with same measures. Any tip?
    The clear plastic case is not what I want. I would like to use the player without such protections. I just want a sleeve to protect the player while its in my jacket/pants.
    Btw, i have bought this version: Creative Zen (maybe european version?). I also doesn't seem to have your mentioned sleeve. I also couldn't find it on the website.
    Anyway, thank you,
    Chris

  • Creative Zen 8 gig - How do I play all videos at one time and skip to next vid

    I was able to do this with the Creative Zen V plus 2 gig, why can't I with the large and more expensi've one?
    THanks,
    John

    I have the same question as the original poster.
    I am loading the zen with music video files only (wma) and would like to have the same playback options as mp3s.
    I understand video file dont have "tags" like mp3s used to facilitate searcing for tracks eg. artist,album etc and i wonder if this could be a problem.
    The question is...How do i get the player to play a list (or folder contents)) of video files either randomely or consecuti'vely without having to do it manualy for each and every video ie set up a playlist. Or is this not possible
    Thanks

  • Creative ZEN 4gb compatible with Creative MediaSource

    Hi,
    I was just wondering if I can use my new Creative Zen 4gb with Creative MediaSource. I really like MediaSource and I would prefer to use it the only problems is when ever I connect it its keep locking up and crashing especially when I go to creative playlists. I used to use mediasource for my Zen Micro. Any suggestion? or does creative no longer support MediaSource with there new players?Thanks!

    Strife04 asked the following:"Hi, does anyone know which Creative MediaSource Player/ Organizer is compatible with the new 4gb ZEN and if there is one, where it can be downloaded? thanks in advance.":?My reply:Which 4gb Zen?I have the Zen V Plus 4 gig and MediaSource Player/Orginizer running on a?Windows XP SP2enabled Dell.
    This works fine for me.

  • Creative ZEN MX Sort/organize music

    #Creative ZEN MX Sort/organize music>Device: ZEN MX
    Firmware: .04.0
    So i got a ZEN MX, i was pretty happy with it... but now i'm starting to get very pissed off..
    The way its sort his music on **bleep** "mp3 tags" i find it complete bullsh*t!
    Why? because not all mp3's have tags, or tags that does not "fit" ( to the mp3 filename ) so it organizes the mp3's like sh*t anyway..
    Now i completly removed all mp3 tags from all the mp3 tracks on my ZEN MX, and the player shows me no mp3 tracks anymore... ( accept for weird named folder with 500 piled up, **bleep**y sorted mp3's in it or something )
    WTF is wrong with sorting on filename like any other device!?
    If anyone got an idea or a fix, to make the ZEN MX sort his mp3 files decently, please tell me! Im desperate

    I've spent a bit of time today, with Mp3tag, to try to understand what is going on with the MX sorting.
    I used Mp3tag with the list of mp3s on my pc, (which was a copy of that on the zen) to add the relevent info. Some of my mp3s were just converts from clips from films etc, and had no relevent tag info. With this program, it is easy to add it.
    It doesn't take too long to experiment to realise its advantages. (tag sort).
    My gripe originally was the grouping of files - or tracks.
    Especially if you had made your own compilation 'album'.
    However, I have found you can do this easily in Mp3tag by grouping the files together, by filling their album field with 'Compliation ' or 'Various Artists' for example.
    If you add the track number into the 'track' list aswell, you automatically order the track playing sequence.
    It is really another way of creating a playlist but giving it an album reference of your own.
    You can also add an album cover picture freely to any mp3. There is a built-in online database search for this, but i found it easier to search on the web, then used the wikipedia result for a source of album pictures. They happen to be around the right size too...
    I then deleted the files on the zen and copied the whole lot across again, with the tag data in.
    I now have some exclusi've albums and with cover pictures, along with all the others which have album covers.
    I can only suggest giving it a go....
    I can see it is the way forward for flexibility.

  • Creative Zen Nano player does not p

    My Creative Zen Nano is getting power on, but it does not play the music. I have many music files and those files have been played for long time, but now they are not playing. When I checked the contents of the player using my PC, the folders are shown as .exe files. Could you please let me know how to correct the player, so that it could play the files. Thanks in advance.

    Not work SORT files : Genres--> Artists--> Albums. (SORT by ID3 tags ?)
    file
    file 0
    file 00
    file 0
    file 2
    file 20
    Work only Playlists.
    Add view folders in Music Library
    Or file not is ''Albums'', need view this, and folders.

  • Creative Zen (16GB Model) showing incorrect song information

    <Creative Zen (6GB Model) showing incorrect song information I was given a Creative Zen for christmas, and I'm very happy with it.
    The only thing is, I've noticed that it seems to occasionally display the wrong title for the song it's playing. I have a playlist called RandomAll which I created using the Media Explorer software. Sometimes, when I look down at the player, I'll notice the wrong song information on screen. Not just the title or anything, but completely wrong information. For example, right now, my player is telling my that a Rihanna song is playing, and gives me all the details for that song (including the extended details if I go into the menu). But the song that's actually playing is a cover of Fraggle Rock by Me First & The Gimme Gimmes. It doesn't seem to be the same songs every time or anything like that, so I don't think it's a problem with the files.
    Is this an issue that has been noticed by anyone else? Is there anything I can do to fix it's And if not, is it the kind of thing I need to send my player back for?

    @ It could be incorrect ID3 tags on your .mp3s, if the source for your music had the wrong ID3 information, your Zen won't show the correct information unless you use an? ID3 Tag Editor to correct the source.

  • Creative zen 32gb question

    looking at this one: [url="http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Portable-Media-Player-Black/dp/B002YPMOC/ref=sr__2?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=23633786&sr=-2">zen 32gb[/url]
    my question is this:
    does this mp3 player require proprietary software to put songs on it or can i just take a folder from my computer, and put it in the music directory on the player using drag and drop
    i did a search but so many "creative zen" players came up i dont know which one to even look at. seems like some can and some cant. im trying to research it now through other means but im just kind of hoping someone on here that owns one can let me know what is required.

    First of all, I'm assuming that you are already clued-up on moving your CD albums onto your hard disk. You should, by the way, always create a folder for each CD/Album, and put all the tracks into that folder.
    From your question, it appears that you haven't yet purchased a Zen. Your Zen comes with some programs to help you do things. In the context of your question here, you get a "Zen Media Explorer" which allows you to do the following:
    . Move your CD/Album folders into your Zen.
    2. Make a playlist for each of the above folders.
    Then if you want to play an album in your Zen simply select a playlist and click "Play".
    There are other ways of doing things, but the above strategy keeps everything tidy and easy to find (and play).
    You can, for instance, create your own"mixes" (putting each into a playlist). You can of course select individual tracks, and (if you want) set "random play".
    You might also find it useful to always set the sleep timer to (say) one hour - then if you forget to switch your Zen off, you won't flatten your battery. When you switch on again, you'll automatically be put into the playlist/track/position-in-track that you were in when "sleep" kicked in. This "return-to-place" also works if you deliberately switch off.
    One other recommendation - always switch to "lock" when playing. In "lock" the display is switched off, so you'll get about 24 hours of audio play on one battery charge. If you don't use the lock, the extra drain by the display will shorten your battery life before you need a recharge to something between 2 and 5 hours.

  • Ipods suck : Considering buying a Creative Zen 32gb, I have some SD questions

    ? My? 20gig ipod died......again. I never realised how bad ipods are . They are WHITE DEATH
    So i'm looking for a replacement. I used to have a Vision M 30gb? but trying to find a new one? is impossible and they are VERY expensi've as they are so rare
    I looked at the Newer creative mp3 players but from the reviews they seem to have a few flaws i dont like plus very expensi've .
    So i've settled on the Creative Zen 32. I tend to carry around a lot of audio so i am considering adding on a SD card
    I'm selecting one that has the right compatibility?but I wanted to ask is it possible? to creative playlists for mp3 on the SD card
    Having the mp3's organised and not a jumbled mess is what i'm worried about .
    Has this been fixed?
    p.s. I tried searching but when you search for 'creative zen' you get every other version of the zen as well

    Zens are great durable mp3-players, so it's a good choice. But so are iPods. A friend of mine has the same iPod he had 5 years ago. You are saying you are having problems with your iPod. Maybe it's just bad luck, but it might happen that you will be dissapointed again with a Zen.
    I have a screen protector and a protection case my zen, I never put it in my pants pocket, unless I really have no other choice. My Zen broke after 2 months (it didn't connect anymore), but those things can happen. mp3-players are fragile, but the Zen is the best player I have experienced (and that are a lot of players, with my destruction rate ).

  • Serious Issues with Creative Zen 32GB

    I have been a loyal creative user for at least the past 6 years.
    In?July I purchased the Creative Zen 32GB device.
    At first it was fine, now it's a total mess.
    I looked to try and find information on whether other folks are having the same issues as I am, but I can't seem to find anything.
    I have Windows Vista 32bit on my computer. I recently upgraded to firmware .2.03 and that just made things worse.
    As soon as I purchased the player I have never had the correct time on the device. I change it constantly and when I turn it back on after a day of not using it, the clock is wrong again.
    I use Rhapsody to download music to the device. I originally had no issues, but lately, I can't transfer songs to the device from Rhapsody, playlists are deleting on their own.
    After upgrading to the new firmware, for every artist I have that contains THE, for example, The Beatles, The Killers, the songs are listed twice on my player as Beatles, The and The Beatles. When I try to delete the duplicate it takes action as if it is deleting, but when I turn the player back on the duplicates are still there.
    If I try to delete a song from the device, it takes action as if it is deleting, but the songs are still there when I turn the player on again.
    There are duplicates and I do not know how they got there.
    When I plug the device into my computer to transfer files or update songs, it makes my computer lock up.
    Anyone have these issues? I have tried to restore, but that does not work. HELP!

    I have been a loyal creative user for at least the past 6 years.
    In?July I purchased the Creative Zen 32GB device.
    At first it was fine, now it's a total mess.
    I looked to try and find information on whether other folks are having the same issues as I am, but I can't seem to find anything.
    I have Windows Vista 32bit on my computer. I recently upgraded to firmware .2.03 and that just made things worse.
    As soon as I purchased the player I have never had the correct time on the device. I change it constantly and when I turn it back on after a day of not using it, the clock is wrong again.
    I use Rhapsody to download music to the device. I originally had no issues, but lately, I can't transfer songs to the device from Rhapsody, playlists are deleting on their own.
    After upgrading to the new firmware, for every artist I have that contains THE, for example, The Beatles, The Killers, the songs are listed twice on my player as Beatles, The and The Beatles. When I try to delete the duplicate it takes action as if it is deleting, but when I turn the player back on the duplicates are still there.
    If I try to delete a song from the device, it takes action as if it is deleting, but the songs are still there when I turn the player on again.
    There are duplicates and I do not know how they got there.
    When I plug the device into my computer to transfer files or update songs, it makes my computer lock up.
    Anyone have these issues? I have tried to restore, but that does not work. HELP!

  • Creative Zen (and other MTP players) and Amarok: A quick guide

    Hi. Odds are if you're looking at this you've been directed here by a search engine because you've typed in something to the effect of Creative Zen+Amarok or MTP+Amarok. This is meant to be a quick and dirty little rundown of what you need to do to get your Zen or possibly other MTP player working. This isn't a scientific paper and thus there will be many many variables that may or may not have anything to do with getting it to work, and may not work with every other MTP player out there. Now, down to business.
    The first thing you probably want to have is libmtp, Amarok, and libusb. In my case I did it with libmtp 0.2.6.1-1, Amarok 1.4.10-2, and libusb 0.1.12-3. Others have apparently gotten this working with older versions so if there is some reason you can't upgrade or you happen to be a time traveler who printed this out before disrupting the natural chronological order this might work even with older versions. If you do however happen to have an older version of Amarok you might have to compile in libmtp support, but this is beyond the scope of this little guide. Google it. Also my user belongs to audio, optical, video, storage, network, Hal, Dbus, and wheel. The only groups I believe are necessary are storage, audio, Hal and Dbus. But I haven't tested under those conditions
    For some reason when libmtp is installed it doesn't install a set of udev rules, so the first thing you need to do is is create a file called:
    /etc/udev/rules.d/65-libmtp.rules
    SUBSYSTEM!="usb_device", ACTION!="add", GOTO="libmtp_rules_end"
    # Creative Zen VisionSpecial:Recentchanges
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="411f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Creative Portable Media Center
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4123", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Creative Zen Xtra (MTP mode)
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4128", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Second generation Dell DJ
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="412f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Creative Zen Micro (MTP mode)
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4130", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Creative Zen Touch (MTP mode)
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4131", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Dell Pocket DJ (MTP mode)
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4132", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Creative Zen Sleek (MTP mode)
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4137", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Creative Zen MicroPhoto
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="413c", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Creative Zen Sleek Photo
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="413d", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Creative Zen Vision:M
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="413e", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Creative Zen V Plus
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4152", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Samsung:YH-820
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="04e8", SYSFS{idProduct}=="502e", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Samsung YH-925
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="04e8", SYSFS{idProduct}=="502f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Samsung YP-T7J
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="04e8", SYSFS{idProduct}=="5047", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Samsung YH-999 Portable Media Center
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="04e8", SYSFS{idProduct}=="5a0f", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Intel Bandon Portable Media Center
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="045e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="00c9", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver Portable Media Center
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="1006", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4002", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver Portable Media Center
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="1006", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4003", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # JVC Alneo XA-HD500
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="04f1", SYSFS{idProduct}=="6105", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Philipps HDD6320
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="0471", SYSFS{idProduct}=="01eb", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Philipps HDD6320 2
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="0471", SYSFS{idProduct}=="014b", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Philipps HDD1630/17
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="0471", SYSFS{idProduct}=="014c", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # SanDisk Sansa c150
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="0781", SYSFS{idProduct}=="7410", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # SanDisk Sansa e200
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="0781", SYSFS{idProduct}=="7420", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # SanDisk Sansa e260
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="0781", SYSFS{idProduct}=="7420", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver T10
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="4102", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1113", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver T20 FM
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="4102", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1114", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver U10
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="4102", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1116", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver T10
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="4102", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1117", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver T20
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="4102", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1118", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver T30
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="4102", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1119", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver H10
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="4102", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2101", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # iRiver H10
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="4102", SYSFS{idProduct}=="2102", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Dell DJ Itty
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="413c", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4500", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Toshiba Gigabeat MEGF-40
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="0930", SYSFS{idProduct}=="0009", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    # Toshiba Gigabeat
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="0930", SYSFS{idProduct}=="000c", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666"
    LABEL="libmtp_rules_end"
    This is the basic set of identifiers for Media Devices on Amarok. Amarok does indeed keep a page which may or may not be updated http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:MTP.
    As it says on that page we want to make sure that the device is recognized. If your device is listed on the list above then you can skip straight to the part about libmtp but if it isn't then you need to start with libusb to construct your devices I.D.
    lsusb-v
    You should see a fairly sizeable output, but what we're interested in is at the very top (assuming you only have your media device plugged in).
    In my case it's:
    Bus 002 Device 007: ID 041e:4157 Creative Technology, Ltd
    and even in that all we really care about is the ID:041e:4157. The first number is the idVendor and the second is the idProduct. All you have to do is copy one of the other examples and subsistute your numbers in mind and name.
    # Creative Zen
    SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4157", SYMLINK+="libmtp-%k", MODE="666", GROUP="audio"
    You probably noticed that GROUP="audio" on the end. I don't know whether or not it is significant but others have mentioned that they could not get it to work until they had that. So I would add that to any device I want to use if it doesn't work and you've done everything else
    Next you want to see if libmtp detects your device. Go back to the console and type:
    mtp-detect
    You should get a pretty long output something like this:
    Attempting to connect device(s)
    PTP: Opening session
    PTP_ERROR_IO: Trying again after re-initializing USB interface
    inep: usb_get_endpoint_status(): Protocol error
    outep: usb_get_endpoint_status(): Protocol error
    usb_clear_halt() on IN endpoint: Protocol error
    usb_clear_halt() on OUT endpoint: Protocol error
    usb_clear_halt() on INTERRUPT endpoint: Protocol error
    usb_claim_interface(): Bad file descriptor
    LIBMTP PANIC: Could not open session on device 1
    LIBMTP PANIC: configure_usb_devices() error code: 7 on line 1599
    Detect: There has been an error connecting. Exiting
    [element@zen rules.d]$ mtp-detect
    libmtp version: 0.2.6.1
    Attempting to connect device(s)
    ^CQ
    [element@zen rules.d]$ Q
    [element@zen rules.d]$ mtp-detect
    libmtp version: 0.2.6.1
    Attempting to connect device(s)
    PTP: Opening session
    Detect: Successfully connected 1 devices
    USB low-level info:
    Using kernel interface "usbfs"
    bcdUSB: 512
    bDeviceClass: 255
    bDeviceSubClass: 0
    bDeviceProtocol: 0
    idVendor: 041e
    idProduct: 4157
    IN endpoint maxpacket: 512 bytes
    OUT endpoint maxpacket: 512 bytes
    Device flags: 0x00000080
    Microsoft device descriptor 0xee:
    0000: 1203 4d00 5300 4600 5400 3100 3000 3000 ..M.S.F.T.1.0.0.
    0010: fe00 ..
    Microsoft device response to control message 1, CMD 0xfe:
    0000: 2800 0000 0001 0400 0100 0000 0000 0000 (...............
    0010: 0001 4d54 5000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ..MTP...........
    0020: 0000 0000 0000 0000 ........
    Microsoft device response to control message 2, CMD 0xfe:
    0000: 2800 0000 0001 0400 0100 0000 0000 0000 (...............
    0010: 0001 4d54 5000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ..MTP...........
    0020: 0000 0000 0000 0000 ........
    Device info:
    Manufacturer: Creative Technology Ltd
    Model: Creative ZEN
    Device version: 1.21.01_0.03.01
    Serial number: 01030000A977C5380002D3484F5AC538
    Vendor extension ID: 0x00000006
    Vendor extension description: microsoft.com: 1.0;microsoft.com/WMPPD: 10.0;microsoft.com/WMDRMPD: 10.1;audible.com: 1.0;
    Detected object size: 64 bits
    Supported operations:
    1001: get device info
    1002: Open session
    1003: Close session
    1004: Get storage IDs
    1005: Get storage info
    1007: Get object handles
    100c: Send object info
    100d: Send object
    100f: Format storage
    1014: Get device property description
    1015: Get device property value
    1006: Get number of objects
    1008: Get object info
    1009: Get object
    100b: Delete object
    1010: Reset device
    1012: Set object protection
    1016: Set device property value
    1017: Reset device property value
    1019: Move object
    101b: Get partial object
    9801: Get object properties supported
    9802: Get object property description
    9803: Get object property value
    9804: Set object property value
    9805: Get object property list
    9806: Set object property list
    9808: Send object property list
    9807: Get interdependent property description
    9810: Get object references
    9811: Set object references
    9201: Report Added/Deleted Items
    9101: Get secure time challenge
    9102: Get secure time response
    9103: Set license response
    9104: Get sync list
    9105: Send meter challenge query
    9106: Get meter challenge
    9107: Get meter response
    9108: Clean data store
    9109: Get license state
    910a: Send WMDRM-PD Command
    910b: Send WMDRM-PD Request
    Events supported:
    None.
    Device Properties Supported:
    0x5001: Battery Level
    0xd401: Synchronization Partner
    0xd402: Friendly Device Name
    0xd101: Secure Time
    0xd102: Device Certificate
    0xd201: Unknown property
    Playable File (Object) Types and Object Properties Supported:
    3009: MP3
    de99: AudioWAVECodec UINT32 data type enumeration: 85, READ ONLY
    de9a: AudioBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 8000, MAX 320000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc46: Artist STRING data type GET/SET
    dc89: Duration UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX -1, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc8b: Track UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8c: Genre STRING data type GET/SET
    dc99: OriginalReleaseDate STRING data type GET/SET
    dc9a: AlbumName STRING data type GET/SET
    de93: SampleRate UINT32 data type enumeration: 8000, 11025, 12000, 16000, 22050, 24000, 32000, 44100, 48000, READ ONLY
    de94: NumberOfChannels UINT16 data type enumeration: 1, 2, READ ONLY
    de95: AudioBitDepth UINT32 data type enumeration: 8, 16, READ ONLY
    dc91: UseCount UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8a: Rating UINT16 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 100, STEP 1 GET/SET
    d901: BuyFlag UINT8 data type ANY 8BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    b901: WMA
    de99: AudioWAVECodec UINT32 data type enumeration: 352, 353, READ ONLY
    de9a: AudioBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 5000, MAX 505000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc46: Artist STRING data type GET/SET
    dc89: Duration UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX -1, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc8b: Track UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8c: Genre STRING data type GET/SET
    dc99: OriginalReleaseDate STRING data type GET/SET
    dc9a: AlbumName STRING data type GET/SET
    de93: SampleRate UINT32 data type enumeration: 8000, 11025, 12000, 16000, 22050, 24000, 32000, 44100, 48000, READ ONLY
    de94: NumberOfChannels UINT16 data type enumeration: 1, 2, READ ONLY
    de95: AudioBitDepth UINT32 data type enumeration: 8, 16, READ ONLY
    dc91: UseCount UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8a: Rating UINT16 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 100, STEP 1 GET/SET
    d901: BuyFlag UINT8 data type ANY 8BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    3008: MS Wave
    dc46: Artist STRING data type GET/SET
    dc89: Duration UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX -1, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc8b: Track UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8c: Genre STRING data type GET/SET
    dc99: OriginalReleaseDate STRING data type GET/SET
    dc9a: AlbumName STRING data type GET/SET
    de93: SampleRate UINT32 data type enumeration: 8000, 11025, 12000, 16000, 22050, 24000, 32000, 44100, 48000, READ ONLY
    de94: NumberOfChannels UINT16 data type enumeration: 1, 2, READ ONLY
    de95: AudioBitDepth UINT32 data type enumeration: 8, 16, READ ONLY
    dc91: UseCount UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8a: Rating UINT16 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 100, STEP 1 GET/SET
    d901: BuyFlag UINT8 data type ANY 8BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    b904: Audible.com Codec
    da01: unknown(da01) UINT32 data type enumeration: 2, 3, 4, GET/SET
    da02: unknown(da02) array of UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    da03: unknown(da03) UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc46: Artist STRING data type GET/SET
    dc89: Duration UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX -1, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc8b: Track UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8c: Genre STRING data type GET/SET
    dc99: OriginalReleaseDate STRING data type GET/SET
    dc9a: AlbumName STRING data type GET/SET
    de93: SampleRate UINT32 data type enumeration: 8000, 11025, 12000, 16000, 22050, 24000, 32000, 44100, 48000, READ ONLY
    de94: NumberOfChannels UINT16 data type enumeration: 1, 2, READ ONLY
    de95: AudioBitDepth UINT32 data type enumeration: 8, 16, READ ONLY
    dc91: UseCount UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8a: Rating UINT16 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 100, STEP 1 GET/SET
    d901: BuyFlag UINT8 data type ANY 8BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    b982: MP4
    de99: AudioWAVECodec UINT32 data type enumeration: 41222, READ ONLY
    de9a: AudioBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 8000, MAX 320000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc46: Artist STRING data type GET/SET
    dc89: Duration UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX -1, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc8b: Track UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8c: Genre STRING data type GET/SET
    dc99: OriginalReleaseDate STRING data type GET/SET
    dc9a: AlbumName STRING data type GET/SET
    de93: SampleRate UINT32 data type enumeration: 8000, 11025, 12000, 16000, 22050, 24000, 32000, 44100, 48000, READ ONLY
    de94: NumberOfChannels UINT16 data type enumeration: 1, 2, READ ONLY
    de95: AudioBitDepth UINT32 data type enumeration: 8, 16, READ ONLY
    dc91: UseCount UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc8a: Rating UINT16 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 100, STEP 1 GET/SET
    d901: BuyFlag UINT8 data type ANY 8BIT VALUE form GET/SET
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    ba03: Abstract Audio Album
    dc86: RepresentativeSampleData array of UINT8 data type byte array: GET/SET
    dc81: RepresentativeSampleFormat UINT16 data type enumeration: 14337, READ ONLY
    dc83: RepresentativeSampleHeight UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 180, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc82: RepresentativeSampleSize UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 24576, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc84: RepresentativeSampleWidth UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 180, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    ba05: Abstract Audio Video Playlist
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    ba01: Abstract Multimedia Album
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    3801: JPEG
    dc88: Height UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 3328, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc86: RepresentativeSampleData array of UINT8 data type byte array: GET/SET
    dc81: RepresentativeSampleFormat UINT16 data type enumeration: 14337, READ ONLY
    dc83: RepresentativeSampleHeight UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 96, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc82: RepresentativeSampleSize UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 8192, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc84: RepresentativeSampleWidth UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 96, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc87: Width UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 4992, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    300a: MS AVI
    de99: AudioWAVECodec UINT32 data type enumeration: 85, 17, 1, READ ONLY
    de9a: AudioBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 8000, MAX 1536000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    de9d: FramesPerThousandSeconds UINT32 data type range: MIN 20, MAX 30000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc88: Height UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 240, STEP 1 GET/SET
    de91: TotalBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 4000000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    de9b: VideoFourCCCodec UINT32 data type enumeration: 844515635, 878070084, 1482049860, 808802372, 1196444237, 1145656920, READ ONLY
    de9c: VideoBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 3000000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc87: Width UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 320, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc86: RepresentativeSampleData array of UINT8 data type byte array: GET/SET
    dc81: RepresentativeSampleFormat UINT16 data type enumeration: 14337, READ ONLY
    dc83: RepresentativeSampleHeight UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 96, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc82: RepresentativeSampleSize UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 8192, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc84: RepresentativeSampleWidth UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 96, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc89: Duration UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX -1, STEP 1 GET/SET
    de93: SampleRate UINT32 data type enumeration: 8000, 11025, 12000, 16000, 22050, 24000, 32000, 44100, 48000, READ ONLY
    de94: NumberOfChannels UINT16 data type enumeration: 1, 2, READ ONLY
    de95: AudioBitDepth UINT32 data type enumeration: 8, 16, READ ONLY
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    300c: ASF
    de99: AudioWAVECodec UINT32 data type enumeration: 352, 353, READ ONLY
    de9a: AudioBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 5000, MAX 505000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    de9d: FramesPerThousandSeconds UINT32 data type range: MIN 20, MAX 30000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc88: Height UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 240, STEP 1 GET/SET
    de91: TotalBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 850000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    de9b: VideoFourCCCodec UINT32 data type enumeration: 861293911, READ ONLY
    de9c: VideoBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 850000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc87: Width UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 320, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc86: RepresentativeSampleData array of UINT8 data type byte array: GET/SET
    dc81: RepresentativeSampleFormat UINT16 data type enumeration: 14337, READ ONLY
    dc83: RepresentativeSampleHeight UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 96, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc82: RepresentativeSampleSize UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 8192, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc84: RepresentativeSampleWidth UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 96, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc89: Duration UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX -1, STEP 1 GET/SET
    de93: SampleRate UINT32 data type enumeration: 8000, 11025, 12000, 16000, 22050, 24000, 32000, 44100, 48000, READ ONLY
    de94: NumberOfChannels UINT16 data type enumeration: 1, 2, READ ONLY
    de95: AudioBitDepth UINT32 data type enumeration: 8, 16, READ ONLY
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    b981: WMV
    de99: AudioWAVECodec UINT32 data type enumeration: 352, 353, READ ONLY
    de9a: AudioBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 5000, MAX 505000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    de9d: FramesPerThousandSeconds UINT32 data type range: MIN 20, MAX 30000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc88: Height UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 240, STEP 1 GET/SET
    de91: TotalBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 850000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    de9b: VideoFourCCCodec UINT32 data type enumeration: 861293911, READ ONLY
    de9c: VideoBitRate UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 850000, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc87: Width UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 320, STEP 1 GET/SET
    dc86: RepresentativeSampleData array of UINT8 data type byte array: GET/SET
    dc81: RepresentativeSampleFormat UINT16 data type enumeration: 14337, READ ONLY
    dc83: RepresentativeSampleHeight UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 96, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc82: RepresentativeSampleSize UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 8192, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc84: RepresentativeSampleWidth UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX 96, STEP 1 READ ONLY
    dc89: Duration UINT32 data type range: MIN 0, MAX -1, STEP 1 GET/SET
    de93: SampleRate UINT32 data type enumeration: 8000, 11025, 12000, 16000, 22050, 24000, 32000, 44100, 48000, READ ONLY
    de94: NumberOfChannels UINT16 data type enumeration: 1, 2, READ ONLY
    de95: AudioBitDepth UINT32 data type enumeration: 8, 16, READ ONLY
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    bb83: vCard3
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    be03: vCalendar2
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    b802: Firmware
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    3000: Undefined Type
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    3001: Association/Directory
    dc01: StorageID UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc02: ObjectFormat UINT16 data type ANY 16BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc04: ObjectSize UINT64 data type READ ONLY
    dc41: PersistantUniqueObjectIdentifier UINT128 data type READ ONLY
    dc44: Name STRING data type GET/SET
    dc0b: ParentObject UINT32 data type ANY 32BIT VALUE form READ ONLY
    dc07: ObjectFileName STRING data type GET/SET
    dc4f: NonConsumable UINT8 data type enumeration: 0, 1, GET/SET
    dc03: ProtectionStatus UINT16 data type enumeration: 0, 1, 32771, READ ONLY
    Storage Devices:
    StorageID: 0x00010001
    StorageType: 0x0003
    FilesystemType: 0x0002
    AccessCapability: 0x0000
    MaxCapacity: 32135315456
    FreeSpaceInBytes: 22053552128
    FreeSpaceInObjects: 4294967295
    StorageDescription: Storage Media
    VolumeIdentifier: 01030000A977C5380002D3484F5AC538
    Special directories:
    Default music folder: 0x0000005a
    Default playlist folder: 0x0000005e
    Default picture folder: 0x0000006a
    Default video folder: 0x0000006e
    Default organizer folder: 0x00000066
    Default zencast folder: 0x00000076
    Default album folder: 0x00000000
    Default text folder: 0x00000000
    MTP-specific device properties:
    Friendly name: Element
    Synchronization partner: (NULL)
    Battery level 255 of 255 (100%)
    libmtp supported (playable) filetypes:
    ISO MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3
    Microsoft Windows Media Audio
    RIFF WAVE file
    Audible.com Audio Codec
    MPEG-4 Part 14 Container Format (Audio+Video Empahsis)
    JPEG file
    Audio Video Interleave
    Microsoft Advanced Systems Format
    Microsoft Windows Media Video
    VCard version 3
    VCalendar version 2
    Firmware file
    Secure Time:
    <DRMCLOCK type="status"><VALUE>#20071201 23:20:20Z#</VALUE><FLAG>DRM_CLK_NOT_SET</FLAG></DRMCLOCK>
    Device Certificate:
    <DEVCERT version="1.0"><CERTIFICATE type="DEVICE"><DATA><UNIQUEID private="1">AAADATjFd6lI0wIAOMVaTwAAAAA=</UNIQUEID><PUBLICKEY private="1">MeOnFU0SWWUfr3AzIzHJzH46KjnuNz2dkpcdq+RjywKmuZU1a1Zlbw==</PUBLICKEY><KEYDATA>qJs8EFn5Ska6sRZLGm652UB4Mqw=</KEYDATA></DATA><MSDRM_SIGNATURE_VALUE>jEluoecw18X8bLGkmoPEf6bj5x7wwFp0PIsRneOYVxKxjJ0E9mdgAw==</MSDRM_SIGNATURE_VALUE><SYMSIGNATURE>bvlrOkBCSmWjVCBs0wI31a9RO/s=</SYMSIGNATURE></CERTIFICATE><FALLBACK><SECURITYVERSION>2.4.108.193</SECURITYVERSION><CERTIFICATE private="1">MeOnFU0SWWUfr3AzIzHJzH46KjnuNz2dkpcdq+RjywKmuZU1a1ZlbwIEbME8W+Iz4M2ZutERFXhR9D29PlwFJQFp7vyP/jIw94U2GfDxW8AlBbYC</CERTIFICATE></FALLBACK><CERTIFICATE type="GROUP"><DATA><NAME>Creative ZEN</NAME>
    <MANUFACTURER>CL Direct Pte Ltd.</MANUFACTURER>
    <MODEL>DVP-FL0001</MODEL>
    <SECURITYLEVEL>2000</SECURITYLEVEL>
    <HARDWARE_VER_MAJOR>1</HARDWARE_VER_MAJOR>
    <HARDWARE_VER_MINOR>0</HARDWARE_VER_MINOR>
    <FIRMWARE_VER_MAJOR>1</FIRMWARE_VER_MAJOR>
    <FIRMWARE_VER_MINOR>0</FIRMWARE_VER_MINOR>
    <FEATURES>
    <CLOCK>2</CLOCK>
    <SECURECLOCK>
    <URL>http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=25817</URL>
    <PUBLICKEY>!CNhvvz1WaNV1AFUmetxkvm9iD4UrE9cnGUi!qcqdxMiXmD1*ikYGA==</PUBLICKEY>
    </SECURECLOCK>
    <METERING>1</METERING>
    <LICENSE_ACQ>0</LICENSE_ACQ>
    <LICENSE_SYNC>1</LICENSE_SYNC>
    <ENCRYPTION>0</ENCRYPTION>
    <SYMMETRIC_OPT>1</SYMMETRIC_OPT>
    </FEATURES>
    <LIMITS>
    <MAXCHAINDEPTH>2</MAXCHAINDEPTH>
    <MAXLICENSESIZE>10240</MAXLICENSESIZE>
    <MAXHEADERSIZE>5120</MAXHEADERSIZE>
    </LIMITS><PUBLICKEY>01jSNo4LLYCkLWpnsvVOxk1wvxbm2krcn20LgpXL9Zf91opCNsMyAQ==</PUBLICKEY></DATA><MSDRM_SIGNATURE_VALUE>DrK/bNN2aO5ImZHdepevdhlT6UePVcdaxTWOMvw/8RYKeQFjSPwWUw==</MSDRM_SIGNATURE_VALUE></CERTIFICATE><CERTIFICATE type="AUTHORIZATION"><DATA><SECURITYLEVEL>2000</SECURITYLEVEL><AUTH_ID>2085</AUTH_ID><PUBLICKEY>U3xlv/ZHjD1bOwjB+VKpZuAf3UI+x+5XtTYc7TvHKdQeGpyFrOmOEw==</PUBLICKEY></DATA><MSDRM_SIGNATURE_VALUE>iBzmFZxhy/VC9d2REO5iicO+dguqv8zhB7QPZe0JOj7BNKAwmrQoew==</MSDRM_SIGNATURE_VALUE></CERTIFICATE><CERTIFICATE type="AUTHORIZATION_ROOT"><DATA><AUTH_ID>1</AUTH_ID><PUBLICKEY>a1t3hxrg!qbOgktnbYaEEi4teCse!gz6RvTPuC!zizKJlpU7xoduSw==</PUBLICKEY></DATA><MSDRM_SIGNATURE_VALUE>Ko25GwcWTT0R8xP4rS9+h4Z/EHX03y7Gb/281mD8U0nQGG3Rk9O+TA==</MSDRM_SIGNATURE_VALUE></CERTIFICATE></DEVCERT>
    WMPInfo.xml Does not exist on this device
    PTP: Closing session
    OK.
    To someone who know what they're doing, all of that code might mean something, but to me the only thing that counts is the OK at the end and that it obviously sees the device. If this doesn't happen it may be that your permissions for the 65-libmtp.rules file is wrong, So just chmod 666 for it and that should solve your problem.
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