Creative Zen Touch 20 Gb as hard dr

Hello,
I am new in this.
I have the Creative Zen with 20 Gb and I am trying it.
I have some problems.
I have problems if I use the device as hard dri've. I have some errors as "Se ha producido un error desconocido y la operaci?n no ha tenido ?xito" ("An unknown error has produced and the operation has not successed"), "No se puede escribir en este archivo" ("It not posible write in this file") or "El reproductor no est? conectado" ("The reproductor is not connected")
Sometimes works correctly, I can read/write into the Zen, and other times not works.
When I try to read some data from the Zen I have the error "No se puede leer desde el dispositivo Jukebox" ("It not posible read from the Jukebox device".
I have tried with two diferents computers (Windows XP Professional and Windows 2000 Professional) without success.
Other question is that if th firmware is updated to version 2.xx, the Zen's software is not required when I would like to connect to another computer? Someone has updated the firmware? with problems? It is dificult to update the firmware?
Thank you very much,
Jordi
I hope that you understand my bad English.Message Edited by jordi_r_r on 0-07-2006 02:55 PM

Hola Jordi,
lo que quiero decir es que puede haber soluciones (se dice en este foro) para los fallos de comunicaci?n entre el reproductor y el software/Sist.Operativo, aunque ninguna me vali? a m?, por razones di'versas.
Dicen que actualizando el firmware la cosa se arregla, pero si te pasa como a m?, que no puedes evitar trabajar con Win98SE, entonces no puedes actualizarlo.
Tambi?n dicen que cambiando la marca de la tarjeta PCI2.0USB, es decir, comprando una nueva, la cosa se puede arreglar... Pero yo uso un port?til, as? que: P?ntalo de verde.
En mi opini?n se trata de ir probando hasta que encuentres tu soluci?n.
Yo a?n no he comprado ning?n otro reproductor. Los iPods est?n absolutamente agotados en la Comunidad de Madrid y s?lo se pueden comprar por internet a Apple directamente. Eso s?, un colega m?o lo compr? as? y lo ten?a en casa a los dos d?as, personalizado (te lo graban gratis por detr?s) y m?s barato por ser estudiante.
Yo creo que voy a probar un iPod video 30Gb
Por cierto, AQUI tienes una descripci?n de las pruebas que hice yo y el mensaje de error que me daba.
SaludosMessage Edited by MLK on 0-09-2006 :40 AM

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