Credit Blocked 3rd Party Sales Order confirm quantity change discrepancy

Hi,
I am facing the below 3rd party SO qty change issue. Please check and advise me.
Step 1:
Created one 3rd Party SO for item A - 10 qty.
Step 2:
PO is created with reference of PR number (item A- 10 qty).
Setp 3:
            Again I am changing the SO item A qty from 10 to 20 (i.e. SO value is increased).
            Due Sales order value increase the credit check performed and due to customer credit
            limit the system shown Static Credit Block message (SO blocked for Credit approval).
Setp 4:
I have saved the SO with the Credit Block message (still SO Credit Blocked).
Issue :
I have not released the Credit block in SO, Even the system has updated the SO confirmation qty as 20
and subsequent PR and PO also changed from 10 to 20 qty.
Regards
Baskar

See, the Credit Management System is designed to work in the SD side & not on the MM side.
Once PR is created, it is updated every time Tird party Sales Order changed which is basic requirement.
Once PR is created / updated, system (Credit Management) cannot the creation of PO & subsequent documents. This is becaus Credit Management is desinged to block creation of Sales Order, Delivery Document & PGI & nothing more.
That is why I suggested you to go to Z-Development & apply a User Exit.
Hope this clarifies.
Thanks,
Jignesh Mehta

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>
Shanu Jain wrote:
> Hi Ravi,
>
> Thank you for the response. If I want to get the error of credit block while creating the Sales order itself (when I am trying to save the Sales order) what settings we need to do besides making the credit limit zero for that customer in FD32?
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