Credit Check during Sales Order Change (VA02)

Hi,
We have implemented a credit management system, where the sales order will not get saved if the credit limit is exceeded. Now this check is working fine during sales order creation. But in VA02 during sales order change, the system is giving an information message that the credit limit is exceeded, but is allowing to save the order, which is not desirable. Could you all please help me in finding a solution to this problem..
Thanks & Regards,
Ritam Bera

Hi
Kindly check that you are using simple credit check or automatic credit check(Statis or Dynamaic) below settings
If Automatic credit check then go to OVA8 -automatic credit control area with combination of Credit control area/Risk category /credit group,Check in the reaction field you have mentioned the error or warning (B or A) .
Prerequisites for credit management to work in Sales and Distribution:
1.Assign credit control area to company code
2.Maintain the credit limit in FD32 with details of risk category and the credit limit value
3.Do the settings in OVA8 -automatic credit control area with combination of Credit control area/Risk category /credit group,Check in the reaction field you have mentioned the error or warning (B or A) .
4.Assign the credit groups to the sales and delivery document types.
5.Maintain the Subtotal 'A' in the pricing procedure against which value the sytem should check the credit limit.
If you have any further clarifications on above let me know
Regards
Damu

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Mangesh Desai wrote:
> Currently the credit check is availbale at the sales order level in the system and if I want to change the credit management settings so that credit check will be available at the delivery level.
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[Credit management|http://www.sap-img.com/sap-sd/credit-management.htm]
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