CRM Middleware - BDOC Class

Hi All,
I am creating a new BDOC from the transaction SBDM. By default the selected BDOC Class is 'Messaging'. I want this to be 'Synchronization ( Write )'. But this is disabled. In fact all the radiobuttons for the BDoc class is input disabled.
Can anyone please let me know what could be the reason for this?
Thanks,
Shankar

Hi Shankar,
Can you please help me with the step by step procedure to create Bdoc. It would be great help from your side. you can also send in some document to [email protected] in case you have any.
Thanking in Anticipation.
Regards,
Amit

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