CRM Organizational Structure PPOMA_CRM

Hi Guru
FIRST QUESTION
do you know if is possible and how to "transport" the organizational strucure from Develop to Quality to Production ?
SECOND QUESTION
Is there a tool (standard or custom) in order to change Organizational Structure without PPOMA_CRM ?
The issue is that we have many new roll-out countries so many new position, users and so on,
adn it is very expensive to create all "manualy".
Can you help us ?
Regards,
Davide Ivanov
[email protected]

Hi Davide,
In response to answer your two questions, the following:
I do not believe it is possible to transport your organizational structure from one environment to the other. Organizational units are created in a similar fashion as business partners and hence are assigned a guid. When transporting these entities these guids must be recreated and therefore preventing your from transporting. More importantly, even if you would find a way to transport (probably using some custom coding) I would never recommend to do so as this is the basis of your CRM system and is prone to cause instabilities.
Your second question, I would recommend either the manual approach or using some kind of CATT script to ease such tasks but based on previous response, I would again recommend to take the 'long' route while minimizing any risks in causing inconsistencies in your environment.
Hope this helps,
Tiest.

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Edited by: Rob Burbank on Oct 20, 2010 4:25 PM

Hello DT,
Could you please let me know the process how the problem is solved..
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Re: Organizational Structure creation using HRMD_ABA
Posted: Aug 21, 2009 6:03 PM    in response to: Claire Crosby-C...           Reply
Hello Claire,
It looks like you are replicating "S". After the "O" replication you should run the "S".
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   Re: Organizational Structure creation using HRMD_ABA
Posted: Aug 21, 2009 6:53 PM    in response to: ASHUTOSH TRIPATHI     Edit          Reply
Hi Ashutosh
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'Perform the following steps in the sequence given if the target system is a
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1. If you want to use the change pointers for later changes, activate
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mechanism into account, which can cause an incomplete initial
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Hi Ashutosh
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1. If you want to use the change pointers for later changes, activate
them at once. During initial transport, you should not maintain the
data in parallel in HR because the distribution takes the blocking
mechanism into account, which can cause an incomplete initial
transport.
2. All objects of object type O are distributed with program RHALEINI. As
a transfer mode, the update mode with infotype 1000 selection should
be used.
This way you make sure that all objects of object type O are created
in the target system for existence checks.
3. As previous step but for object type C.
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When running RHALEINI I have entered the following:
Objects - Object Type = 'O'
Reporting Period - Today is selected
Transfer Mode - Insert is selected, with the Update Mode infotype set to 1000
I did think making a setting under the Update Mode Infotype seemed a little odd, as I was doing an insert, but is this not what point 2 from the OSS Note is telling me to do?
Any thoughts would be really helpful.
Am I supposed to create a skeleton Org structure before pulling in the ECC 6 structure when I am using external numbering?
Thanks
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I did think making a setting under the Update Mode Infotype seemed a little odd, as I was doing an insert, but is this not what point 2 from the OSS Note is telling me to do?
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