Crop marks being applied incorrectly

Hi everyone,
I've just started using Illustrator CS4 and I'm trying to apply crop marks to a selection. The selection is made up of a mask, where an ellipse is making a larger shape. When I apply the crop command, it's placing the crop marks at the edges of the larger masked object instead of the ellipse.
Is there a way to have the crop marks appear at the edges of the ellipse instead? I'd prefer not to crop any of the masked object away as I may need to go back to it later on.
Appreciate any help.

Just take care not to have a stroke on the object you're using to create your crop marks from.
If you have, for example, an ellipse with a bleed (like a beer bottle label where the colour extends right to the edge of the label and bleeds past the cutter line), it's a good idea to copy the stroked path, paste in front, remove its colour and then make your crop marks. Then delete the uncoloured line if you like. Next copy corner crop marks to centres like I said before. In the case of a beer bottle label (been there) you would normally have the cutting line as a separate thin stroke in an overprinting spot colour called "cutter" or "die".
By default, crop marks come in the colour called "Registration" in the Swatches palette, so that they show up on all plates, but of course you can alter their colour afterwards as you please.
Crop marks also have a tendency to come on the topmost layer which is not always what you want, but it's not problem moving them to the layer where you want them to be. Also, be careful not to have the topmost layer locked when trying to make crop marks on a lower layer. You will get a nasty message to that effect and probably a failure or even a crash.

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somewhat
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