CROP MARKS? HELP!

Hi there, folks
I just got InDesign as my label have put an extremely inexperienced intern on the formatting of my cd art which I send in Photoshop format. He keeps screwing it up and it makes me very uncomfortable. So I have agreed to take the responsibility on myself, and am presently trying to prepare a cover for print.
But I can't for the life of me figure out how to set the crop marks. In Illustrator you'd make an object and then there was a button to set that as crop marks. How can I do it in InDesign? Also the registration marks? There is only one page about it in the help files and it doesn't mention how to actually set these things up.
Also, if anyone can offer further advice so that this goes to print with all the requirements. Is there anything else I need to set up?
Much thanks in advance!

Just designed and printed a CD cover yesterday for a client.
 
 A CD cover isn't exactly square.
 
 Make a new document: 4.875" wide x 4.75" high for your CD cover. Margins should be a minimum of 1/8" (.125). This is the live area and most printers prefer a minimum of 1/8" especially for text so it's not so close to the edge that part of it doesn't get trimmed off by mistake. Make a bleed of .125"
 
 Here's a sample image for you. I use .25 margin because I want the text and image as a unit in the center of my cover.
 
 
<a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=1hF95d2SYLbzdSPNV8eRPvAL49QG" /></a>
<img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/1hF95d2SYLbzdSPNV8eRPvAL49QG_thumb.jpg" border="0" />
 
 And here is what the job looks like when printed and trimmed:
 
 
<a href="http://www.pixentral.com/show.php?picture=18G4CebZ8CYluRSgEazoeHTOL2n5Q0" /></a>
<img alt="Picture hosted by Pixentral" src="http://www.pixentral.com/hosted/18G4CebZ8CYluRSgEazoeHTOL2n5Q0_thumb.jpg" border="0" />

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As said above, we can walk you through a custom script step by step
Let me get you started with this: the ESTK Help -- or one of its variants -- is your biggest friend!
"1. Find document size"
Use app.activeDocument.documentPreferences.pageWidth and app.activeDocument.documentPreferences.pageWidth for these.
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It is perfectly possible to have the script set the correct measurements and move the zero point for you, but now you know why it has to do that.
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*i'm using PS because i have no experience with ID.
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