Crop Marks within document

On page 49 of the CS4 help guide it says
Create crop marks around an object
1Select the object or objects.
2Choose Effect > Crop Marks
Under effect (mine actually says "effects") there is no option for crop marks.
Help?

Welcome to the forum.
Unfortunately, I think that you probably want the Photoshop Forum.
This is Premiere Pro, a video-editing program.
Good luck,
Hunt

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Hello,
I am after some advice or assistance on the scripting side of things for indesign please.
Basically where do you start? I'm wanting to do some scripts to speed up some repetitive processes.
What I'm trying to do initially is (what I'd think would be) a very simple script. Basically it's adding crop marks to document, with the horizontal ones running the full width of the document. I've just no idea where to start...
So, I think the process of the script would be this:
1. Find document size
2. Add a horizontal line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = document width + 20mm
X axis = document width divided by 2 (line sits centrally, hanging 10mm over left and right edges)
Y Axis = 0mm
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4. Add a vertical line at 0.1 pt size,
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5. Add a vertical line at 0.1 pt size,
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6. Add a vertical line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = 10mm
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7. Add a vertical line at 0.1 pt size,
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X axis = document width
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For the future I am wanting some more complex scripts but this will hopefully help me understand a little bit. (I will need one with input tables where you can add variables if that's do-able, but i somehow think it wont be me doing that one!!)
Thanks in advance for any help or pointers.
Phil

As said above, we can walk you through a custom script step by step
Let me get you started with this: the ESTK Help -- or one of its variants -- is your biggest friend!
"1. Find document size"
Use app.activeDocument.documentPreferences.pageWidth and app.activeDocument.documentPreferences.pageWidth for these.
"2. Add a horizontal line at 0.1 pt size,
Length = document width + 20mm
X axis = document width divided by 2 (line sits centrally, hanging 10mm over left and right edges)
Y Axis = 0mm"
app.activeDocument.graphicLines.add () adds a new graphic line on a default position. You can then move it into position.
Doing the math results in this little script to add the first line:
newLine = app.activeDocument.graphicLines.add();
newLine.paths[0].pathPoints[0].anchor = [ -20, 0 ];
newLine.paths[0].pathPoints[1].anchor = [ app.activeDocument.documentPreferences.pageWidth+20, 0 ];
newLine.strokeWeight = 0.1;
newLine.strokeColor = app.activeDocument.swatches.item("Registration");
newLine.strokeStyle = app.strokeStyles[0];
A 'line' can consist of a number of paths (consider a compound path), but usually has only one single path. A new line only has two endpoints -- the anchors --, and you can move these around by setting the coordinates with an array of [ x y ] values. Important: These values are in your current measurement units! I'm assuming, for convenience, that you have mm for this. If you see 20 inch wide lines popping up, you know why :-) Another important point: the rulers' zero point must be in the top left of your document. All "absolute" values are relative to this zero point.
It is perfectly possible to have the script set the correct measurements and move the zero point for you, but now you know why it has to do that.
Notice you don't explicitly move the center of the new line; in this case, it's easier to immediately move each end point into its correct place.
There are a few other things you can do to make the script misbehave. The new line is created with the active defaults in your document. You could have the script change the defaults to the correct settings, but that's not really user friendly. Instead, you can change everything by applying new values to the new line only. You can see I set its weight, color, and stroke style.
A few points on these latter three settings:
Didn't I just tell you all values are in current measurement units? Well, line widths are always in points (as is font size and line spacing).
The correct line color is grabbed by asking for a swatch called "Registration" -- you might want to replace this with another swatch name.
The stroke style is grabbed by blindly using the very first stroke style in InDesign. I found out the hard way using "Solid" (or what is it called) does not work across different languages. Much later I learned there is a language-independent way of using the names, but hey, that's harder to remember.

EPS file placed within INDD art shows crop marks when exported to PDF

Hi Friends -
I have a INDD art file I'm working on, within which I placed an EPS image. Upon exporting the INDD art to PDF, the document has what appear to be crop marks surrounding the EPS image. This is not where the image should be cut, and these marks are being shown in a functional part of the design. Here is a screenshot of one corner of the EPS; the other 3 corners have identical marks:
Additional information:
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- InDesign CS5.5 Version 7.5.3
- Marks are generated during export process/conversion to PDF; they are not visible in InDesign.
- EPS file does not create these crop marks when placed into another INDD file and exported using the same process as above.
- No other elements of the INDD file have similar marks displayed after export.
Any help with where I might find the setting in INDD to turn this OFF would be greatly appreciated!
D

That was probably the most expeditious reply I've ever received in a forum.
Anyhow, the crop marks are not part of the actual EPS image. Opening the EPS file in PS or AI reveals no stray crop marks so, unless the marks are somehow part of the EPS settings rather than a visible element of the image, I think it has something to do with INDD and its settings. To confirm, I did place this EPS in another INDD document and an export procedure utilizing the same steps does not reproduce the crop marks.

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Can one set Pages to RGB \ CMYK? Where?
The page description models of Adobe PostScript, Apple QuickDraw Graphics Extension, and Adobe Portable Document Format are object oriented. Conceptually, there is no such thing as a global colourant model for object oriented page description models.
To control colour in an object oriented page description model that supports the intelligent separation model of the International Color Consortium, capture and correct images into a source CIELab or RGB colour space of your choice.
Place RGB objects in pagination properly tagged with their source ICC profiles and include the ICC profile for the intended printing condition as a PDF/X-3 OutputIntent using the ColorSync Utility export process (take care to revisit the export filter to see if the printing condition is correct).
This way all objects in the pagination are converted into the correct ink limit, gray balance, highlight soft clipping, shadow soft clipping and compression of colour contrasts for the lightness range and colour gamut of the printing condition.
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Crop Marks Inaccurate and do not match document size.

8.5 x 11 acrobat file.
There is no scaling.
When printed to HP5500, or Xerox 7500, the crop marks measure 10.6 x 8.22.
This dimension changes depending on what STYLE of crop marks are selected in the ADVANCED section of the print dialog box.
This happens with Acrobat 7Pro and with Acrobat 9Pro.
This must be an issue with this file because it is repeatable on 2 different printers and with 2 versions of acrobat.
How does acrobat decide where to put the crop marks?
The DOCUMENT BOXES are:
Crop = 8.5x11
TrimBox = 7.99x10.34
BleedBox = 7.99x10.34
ArtBox = 7.99x10.34
So how may I output this file on an 12 x 18 sheet and have accurate crop marks print at 8.5 x 11?

I think whoever is generating the files is exporting or printing to pdf with a 1" oversize page setup. 8.5x11=9.5x12
Then someone else is cropping the file. How is the cropping done? We don't know. Using acrobat's crop tool? Using Pit Stop's crop tool? Another third party plug-in?
These files are actually only at a preflight stage. The order entry people need to see what it is and how to write it up for construction (business forms). They then see that crops marks are trimming into copy and alarm flags go off. The pdf is eventually placed into an indd template with the the called for construction. (perfs, stubs, punches, numbering etc.)
We rarely have positioning problems when we select "crop to trim" when importing.
Now the problem is if I set the document boxes to zero as I mentioned, the order entry people have the same but opposite problem. Inaccurate marks 1" LARGER than they are supposed to be.
The original post was 8.5 x 11 document but the art box,, the actual stuff on the page was 7.99x10.34. In that case I think the artist was being lazy and wanted to take an 8.5 x 11 and add bleed to it. The intent would have been to stretch distort the 7.99x10.34 to 8.5 x 11 when placing the pdf in indd. But none of this explaing why, when printing a pdf from acrobat, the marks we get on the paper (in some cases), do not match what we see on the screen or are not in the correct place. Where is acrobat getting the information to create these marks?

Adding crop marks to a documents with bleeds & save as EPS

Working on Adobe CS6
A sign maker has asked me to submit my artwork for different signs (quite a few of them, in different-sizes) as EPS with crop/trim marks.
For instance: The size of this sign is 24"x24" with a .25" bleed. The Artboard shows the right size, and the crop marks show uo as they should. But once I let go of the Artboard, no crop marks show on my screen.
Any crop mark I try adding via the Object ("Create Trim Marks") or Effect menu for crop marks, both cases would create them around the BLEEDS, rather than the REAL ARTBOARD, which, of course, defies the purpose of a crop or trim mark...
I usually submit files for production saved as PDF w/bleeds & crop marks, but this sign maker wants them as EPS.
Is there a way around it, other than create those marks manually?....
...Thanks.

Set your artboard to the size of your sign and save the file as a pdf with "Trim Marks" checked and the bleed settings where you want them.
Open the resulting pdf in acrobat and save as an .eps
Open in Illustrator to verify that you're cross-marks were preserved.

Crop Marks don't appear in pdf (Illustrator CS4)

Hi everyone,
I've used the crop marks command (under the effects menu) on a rectangle that is the size of the artboard. I then created a pdf of the document and made sure there was enough bleed to encompass these crop marks, ie. 20mm all round. When I open up the pdf though no crop marks appear.
Can someone tell me why this is happening?
Appreciate any help.

It does do that but it should not show the bleeds as a part of the document it should the document size should be differentiated from the bleed and crop and printer marks area.
You should be able to turn them off for better review purpose with clients and the thing that Acrobat does automatically is to fit the document to the paper size. This I think is a mistake as the ordinary user might not understand what is happening.
If you want to print the document at a 100% it has to go on a paper and to a print that prints documents of a larger size.
It should be clearer as we have reach a point in time where there are most users who have no old world experience with the printing press and plate making so many will not get this true once pointed out it will appear to them as a no brainer.
Also with Acrobat becoming a presentation and conferencing tool for client review in a very live way the ability to turn the bleeds and marks off with a click is very necessary especially hen you have a dead head executive on the other end saying that they never approved that design feature. You can then just click hide the crops or pint out that those marks are outside the documents page size and won't print.
No matter how much sense it makes to you and me because we are very experience with this there will always be people outside our profession that will have a hard time with this and many within our profession as well.
I was aware this was finally included in CS4 but I think it can be improved admittedly you can send a copy of the pdf without bleeds and marks. But you have no control over what they might do on the other side and i have seen some pretty stupid things.
In th old days you know the account exec would come into the art dept and pick the comp off of your drawing table and take his finger and run it over the art and ask is this wet?
I guess I don't have to tell anyone the answer to that question.

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I am working on double sided business cards. I am using illustrator cs4. But the crop marks on one side dont align with the other. I am also using a
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Hi,
May we have a screenshot of your canvases? How you set up your print depends largely on how you are approaching the layout of the project. How significant is misalignment? Are we talking about 1/16th of an inch or whole inches?
There are multiple factors to be addressed when printing couble sided documents. Firstly, you need to be sure that your files are set up so that the front and back are aligned within the document itself. I'm assuming that you are using canvases that are the dimensions of the card. In the print dialog you should also be making sure that the file is set up to print the document in the absolute center.
Secondly, your printer has to be aligned properly. This is another beast entirely, and you will need to consult your printer documentation to figure out how to adjust this.
I know this is kind of a non-answer, but I hope it gets you on the right track. Good luck!

Blog post about Crop Marks Filter in Illustrator CS4

Sometime back a blog article was posted on Adobe Illustrator Blogs at http://blogs.adobe.com/infiniteresolution/ which talks about how Illustrator CS4 users who wanted/asked for the pre-Illustrator CS4 Crop Marks Filter could get it back.
Mac users can go directly to this link to get the Crop Marks Filter plug-in : http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4617
Win users can go directly to this link to get the Crop Marks Filter plug-in :
http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=4618&fileID=4288

It does do that but it should not show the bleeds as a part of the document it should the document size should be differentiated from the bleed and crop and printer marks area.
You should be able to turn them off for better review purpose with clients and the thing that Acrobat does automatically is to fit the document to the paper size. This I think is a mistake as the ordinary user might not understand what is happening.
If you want to print the document at a 100% it has to go on a paper and to a print that prints documents of a larger size.
It should be clearer as we have reach a point in time where there are most users who have no old world experience with the printing press and plate making so many will not get this true once pointed out it will appear to them as a no brainer.
Also with Acrobat becoming a presentation and conferencing tool for client review in a very live way the ability to turn the bleeds and marks off with a click is very necessary especially hen you have a dead head executive on the other end saying that they never approved that design feature. You can then just click hide the crops or pint out that those marks are outside the documents page size and won't print.
No matter how much sense it makes to you and me because we are very experience with this there will always be people outside our profession that will have a hard time with this and many within our profession as well.
I was aware this was finally included in CS4 but I think it can be improved admittedly you can send a copy of the pdf without bleeds and marks. But you have no control over what they might do on the other side and i have seen some pretty stupid things.
In th old days you know the account exec would come into the art dept and pick the comp off of your drawing table and take his finger and run it over the art and ask is this wet?
I guess I don't have to tell anyone the answer to that question.

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I'm playing in the trial version of Illustrator 5.
I'm having trouble figuring out the crop marks. I select an object and try the various versions of creating crop marks. But when I Save For Web, it does not use the crop marks as a guide to trim the artwork down. The crop marks are visible.
In CS3, which I've used for years, I would create an object and use the crop mark tool to create the marks at the size of my object. When I would Save For Web it would save the file to the exact size of my crop marks, no matter if I had artwork in clipping masks that go outside the crops.
Why does this not work in CS5?

You do speak the truth so in CS 4 and now Cs 5 you instead of drawing a rectangle and the making it into crop marks you simply draw an artboard then when you export you select to use artboards in the export dialog and select the artboard you just made and voilá.
Now before you go crazy this is an advance you can also choose to export all the artboards a range of artboards or a non-contiguous selection of artboards this way.
the difference here is that you draw the artborad which is actually drawing a rectangle and making the crop marks as in the CS 3 all in one opertation
it is really the same feature with lots of features added to it. Including the ability to name the art boards (cropped areas) number them reorder them
manage them in the artboard panel and then the team went farther than that with pasting in place pasting an element on all the artboards at once.
It is really just the crop area feature but with lots of possibilities.
If you need t draw an artboard within another artboard hold down the shift key.

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Once again thanks very much for your help Scott. very much appreciated.
In the investigation it is found that removing the 'Filter Criteria' on XSLT List View makes the "Export to Excel" functionality work. But the 'Filter Criteria' is mandatory to get the 'Document Search' functionality.
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If you can think of any alternative solution that could help in resolving the current issue or fix the issue without any custom implementation please inform. Otherwise this issue would be marked as resolved with your suggested response.
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Adobe Illustrator CC 2014 - Custom Crop Marks?

Hello all,
I've been looking for a solution to this problem for some time now, and am hoping to find help here!!
Adobe Illustrator CC 2014 - want to be able to customize how crop marks are created through Object>Create Trim Marks. Does anyone know of any plugins that could achieve this? Manually shrinking and shifting the crop marks takes too much time...
Thanks in advance to any contributors!

I know of no plugins for this.
The fastest way we found was to use Libraries.
1. Make one set of trim marks and save it in the library.
2. On a new document, make a box the trim size of your doc.
3. Snap guides to the 4 edges of the box.
4. Drag out the crop marks (double, triple, with registration marks, or whatever you created in your original Library item).
5. Snap each of four mark sets to the guide corners.
Voila.

Booklet .pdf with crop marks, booklet doesn't fit the current paper size warning

Hello. I am on XP using CS4 InDesign.
I have the document set up as 4 pages, each 8.5 x 11, however, when creating a booklet .pdf, I mean it to be 2 pages 11x17.
When I add in the crop marks they do not appear on the .pdf when it is created. I receive a warning in the booklet diaglog that the booklet doesn't fit the current paper size and it says to specify a larger paper size.
What can I do to have the crop marks on my file? I understand the .pdf will be a little larger than 11x17 in order to fit the crop marks.
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Hi Peter,
Thank you. I did try that first, but now I figured out what I did wrong. When the .pdf was made and opened, I cropoped the page according to the marks, but the page remained 12 x 18 instead of 11x17. I made sure that the "automatically adjust to fit marks and bleeds" and "use document bleed settings" was checked in the booklet dialog and print InDesign dialog.
When I cropped the page again to make sure I sized it correctly, it was 11x17.
Thank you!!!

How do I change the alignment of crop marks?

When exporting a document as a PDF the crop marks are automatically aligned with the edge of the document, but I need to move them a couple of millimetres in to account for the bleed.
I can't find any options where I can change this. The only option I can see is 'offset' but that just varies the actual distance of the crop marks from the document.
I'm sure it's something really obvious but I'm going nuts here. Any help would be great. Thanks.

Why not make the document the cut size and set the bleed in the document? That's out of box and standard.
Alternately you can use the Crop Marks script found in the Scripts panel and make boxes in your document's cut size, crop marks based on their bounds.

Test: Using Crop marks in indesign CS4 with Epson 3800 Mac 10.5.7

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Crop marks using indesign CS4 with Epson 3800 Mac 10.5.7
My crop marks and pages are printing larger than my document sizes. My paper size is 13x19, so I should have crop marks at the exact corners of the page sizes. But indesign is printing the entire document larger. So my document which is 11x14.75 is now printing 11.25x15.5. All my settings are correct. So, is anyone else using an Epson 3800 with CS4 indesign having issues such as the above? And can I ask (beg) a few of you to do a test print with crop marks and let me know the results?
My workflow has been completely stalled because I can't get my pages to print the right sizes with the crop marks at the right measurements. I'm printing a photo portfolio on the Lumijet double sided paper and "when" it did work awhile back sometime several months ago, the finals looked great. I've already reinstalled both the Epson 3800 driver and the Indesign CS4 software, but the results are still the same.
So, here are my settings:
document size: 11x14.75
in the print panel:
Printer: Epson 3800
Setup: Paper size: Super A3/B13x19, scale 100% width & height, page position Centered
Marks & Bleed: Marks: "Crop Marks" checked. offset: 0, weight: .25, Bleed and Slug: Use Document bleed settings, include slug area. The bleed is 0 for top, bottom, left and right
Color Management: Document profile: Adobe RGB, Options: Indesign handles colors, Printer Profile: (A custom made profile using Xrite for the 3800 with Lumijet paper)
The settings on the Epson 3800
Epson 3800 Printer
Presets (set for the profile mentioned above)
No Color management
Sometimes, on a whim, the printer and indesign cooperate together like good little children should. But not often. And I can not conclude why they are nice to each other sometimes, but given the same detailed data at other times, they fight.
If anyone could run through a similar process using indesign with a photo layout and setting up the printer settings for both the Epson 3800 and in the indesign program and let me know their results, I would value your conclusions very much. You don't even have to waste paper or ink. Finally, after wasting so many pages of paper and of ink. I deleted the photos from the page, and printed it blank with only the crop marks for me to measure if it was coming out right or not.
Thank you for any response. And feel free to call me if you want to vent about Epson 3800's or about Indesign CS4 anytime! I'm up late.... 646 256 8853.
Thaddeus

I specified the paper size as strictly 13x19, no boarderless, no retain size. Same problem. I also did as you suggested below. The pdf document does remain true to the document. As a pdf doc. I changed the color mgmt to Adobe rgb 1998. It looks okay, but not as lively as I get when printing correctly with my color mgmt working and in sync.
Your final question about simply using photoshop. Well... I might go back to it and give up on Indesign if this is the case that it won't simply crop my documents to the sizes that I input them to be cropped as. But, I am using Indesign so that I can create a page layout that I can't do in Photoshop. My folio is about 25 or more pages with double page spreads. I am printing on a two-sided Lumijet paper and my folio was custom designed to be cut out at 11x14.75. If and when it is printed correctly, I am printing on both sides of the paper and trimming it to exact size.
It sounds as if you have exhausted the potential problems and don't have a clear explanation for why the doc isn't printing correctly in Indesign either with the color mgmt. or the document sizes. I'll try one more print using a different color profile similar enough to get at minimum, an okay print. If it doesn't print at least okay, then it isn't most likely my profile..... Okay done. Crazy. The color is inaccurate, but for some reason or another, the document size printed correctly. It measured exactly 11x14.75. What I have done during this period of time is:
First) I did as you suggested and turned the Print to Adobe PDF 9 and created a print there. I measured it and it did measure correctly. I didn't love the color, but... at least it is measuring correctly.
Second) I turned the Printer back to Epson 3800 (I'm beginning to think that this simple gesture was what caused the printer to print correctly) I didn't change any settings, but I did make sure that they were set correctly as before. The paper size was set to 13x19. When I make sure this setting is right in the "printer" dialogue for the Epson 3800, and then switch back to ID, the printer dialogue in Id changes to "Define by Printer." But I changed nothing, other than the profile to an older one that I used before. The color is still inaccurate, but at least for two prints just now back to back, the measurements were correct. What to do? Lol.
Thanks again for all of your time spent trying to resolve this issue.
Sincerely,
Thaddeus

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