Crop tool settings

Prior to yesterday I was able to crop and image, then move the image around by using a Shift/drag motion. I could resize as desired too. Yesterday that all changed. I can only crop once, then it won't allow me to resize and when I try to Shift/Drag it jumps to another photo in the library. Did I inadvertently change a setting? I'm using LR 5 on a Mac. Thanks for any suggestions.

I did a reset of the preferences and regained the ability to move the image by using the arrow keys, but using the mouse repeated my strange behavior. I proceeded to play around with options and clicked on the Lock to Second Window option, cropped and the cropped image opened in the second window. I deleted that, clicked the Second Window option back off, and that gave me the Move icon back again and I regained all of the abilities that I had lost. Strange - I'm pretty sure that's not how it's supposed to work, but somehow it seemed to relieve the aberrant actions. Thanks for the assist, Rikk.

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PS CS4: Crop tool settings disappear as i tab through

I just received a new Macbook Pro laptop from employer, running Mac OS 10.9.4 and have Photoshop CS 4 Extended installed. I've been using PS for decades, last version used was CS2. I've never encountered this before.
In the Crop Tool options at the top left, if I enter 10 inches wide, tab to resolution (leaving vertical clear), the width setting disappears as soon as I enter something for the resolution. Tabbing back to re-enter width, the resolution entry disappears. Back and forth, back and forth. ARRRRGH. This happens if tabbing. i think it happened on a mouse click too but when checking just now mouse click worked ok..
This happens when I focus on only the vertical and resolution settings too.
Anybody else experiencing this? My co-worker right there (pointing left) says his does the same thing (CS4 on previous generation Macbook Pro) but over the past year he's gotten used to it. Is this a new "feature"? What am i missing? I would like to work the old way which doesn't sound unreasonable to me.
thanks
eric
fresno, ca.

The crop tool always works like that, even though you enter precise values you can still make the selection as small/big as you like however once you accept the crop it will be the size you specified.
You could try using the Marquee tool, set Style to Fixed Size, enter the values you want and select the area you want to crop(this time it will remain the size you want it to be) and go to Image->Crop.
PPI matters only when printing, low PPI won't give you smaller files, only pixel dimensions count

PhotoShop Elements 9 Crop Tool is a total failure!

I do a fair amount of work that involves a lot of croping, mainly for animation sequencing. The Crop tool Custom Height and Width settings do NOT WORK.
I usually have a test image of the exact size that I work in. Example: 500 x100 pixels. This converts to 13.23cm x 2.65 cm at 96dpi. When I type these Crop Size requirements into the Crop tool settings box, I get a crop size way outside the size of the image that I want to crop. There is no way to set that size up yourself by using a test image as a template. In fact there is no way to set up custom sizes in the menu at all! I find this to be very upsetting as I have only just purchased this product. This limitation is something that I would expext to find in freeware, but not in a program like PhotoShop Elements 9. I have tried every conceivable way to try to get the Crop Tool to work to a Pre Set size with no success.
Why is it that a graphics program will not allow you to put in a pixel x pixel measurement? That is pure stupidity on the part of the programmers and very poor work on the part of the testing team. No wonder the program itself crashes from time to time. It just stops running - ppffft! I have a state of the art 64 bit system running Win 7 with plenty of RAM and a High end Graphics Card, so I know that my system is not at fault - it's PhotoShop 9. I cannot believe the primative workspace and the lack of the ability to custom predefine tools. All in all I'm extremely unhappy with PE9.
If anyone has had this or similar issues and has found a solution please tell me what it is.

In answer to your remark I will go through the whole process again at a later date and re-post. It does not make any difference to the resultant Crop size whether you input cm or pixels. Here's a point for you though since you mentioned it. Check out the Ruler - does it look like the Crop is anywhere near 500cm x 100cm? Maybe you were so busy trying to find fault that you failed to see the forest for the trees?
I only find fault where it exists - not where it doesn't. As far as Forums go, I am a member of a few Forums and have not had this sort of problem with answers before where the reply posts tend toward trying to pretend a problem doesn't exist or trying to prove fault with the poster. Hmmm. Again I wonder how many of these reply's are from people with some affiliation with Adobe?
I will finish by saying that just for you I will go through the whole pointless exercise again and make sure that the Pixels are indeed input.
1. Opening File
2. File Open.
3. Resetting Crop Tool.
4. Crop Tool reset and Measurement Boxes clear.
5.First Measurement Input. PLEASE NOTE 500 Pixels Input!
6. Second Measurement Input. PLEASE NOTE 100 Pixels Input!
7. Third Criteria Input. PLEASE NOTE 96dpi Input!
8. All Input Data correct and ready to Crop to preset Width/Height/Dpi restrictions.
9. OH DEAR IT DOESN'T WORK! Again it fails to give me a simple 500x100 pixel at 96dpi Crop Box!
After this reply post you may just get some idea of the frustration I am experiencing. As you can plainly see the Crop Box drawn goes to the very edges of the Image to be Cropped. Can you see the problem now? Maybe I should just go with my friend's suggestions and take a video of the process and post it on YouTube? Then go to my local Consumer Affairs Department! If you can find what I am supposedly doing wrong - please elucidate as I have followed both the prescribed steps in the somewhat Shoddy Online Help and also the suggested remedies posted on the Forum. All to no avail. It just Won't Work!

When using crop tool based on canvas size dimensions, the file size becomes very large

Can someone explain how to best figure out crop tool settings to maintain relative file size? I tried to use the image / canvas size information to set the crop tools dimensions, but the file saved is 10 times larger than the original.
Thanks!

What exact version of Photoshop? There were changes to the crop tool as of CS6, althoughy there's an option to use Classic (the old crop tool behaviour).
It wouldn't hurt to specify your platform (Mac or Win)…
If you give complete and detailed information about your setup and the issue at hand, such as your platform (Mac or Win), exact versions of your OS, of Photoshop and of Bridge, machine specs, what troubleshooting steps you have taken so far, what error message(s) you receive, if having issues opening raw files also the exact camera make and model that generated them, etc., someone may be able to help you better and faster.
Please read this FAQ for advice on how to ask your questions correctly for quicker and better answers:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/419981?tstart=0
Thanks!

CS4 Crop Tool Not Holding Settings

In older versions of PhotoShop you could remove just one measurement in the crop tool options (height, width, resolution) and the rest would stay. In CS 4 if we delete one measurement all the rest go away too. Is there a way around this? For instance I have my measurements set for a 12 pica wide by 8 pica tall photo with a resolution of 200. If I decided that I don't care about the height of the photo, but I do want it to be 12 picas wide, in older versions I could simply remove the 8 in the height box. In CS4 if I do that I lose all my other measurements too. Thanks for any help.

Okay found it there was clear button on the second line at the top- I was thinking it was a drop down menu

I have been using Photoshop Elements 8 for years. All of a sudden, the cropping tool changed: I cannot crop vertically or horizontally anymore--only diagonally. This has made it impossible for me to get the photo I want. I hope someone knows how to fix th

I have been using Elements 8 ever since it came out, and all of a sudden the cropping tool has changed: I can no longer crop horizontally or vertically, only diagonally. The up/down/side arrows have disappeared! Please help if you can, I'm no longer able to make my photos look their best. Thank you in advance.

Quit the editor (Quit PSE on a mac). Then restart it while holding down ctrl+alt+shift (command+option+shift). Keep the keys down till you see a window asking if you want to delete the settings file. You do.

My Elements 9 cropping tool just stopped working...crops the entire photo.

My Elements 9 cropping tool just started cropping the entire image away today. Just got an Adobe air update last night. This is nothing I have done. All that's left after using my crop tool is a .jpg symbol. Please help.

First try resetting the tool. If that doesn't work delete the settings file by holding down Ctrl+Alt+Shift as you start PSE and answering the prompt to delete.
Cheers,
Neale
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Crop tool shows background color unless I switch to "Classic" mode

I'm not sold on the "latest" Photoshop being the best. I've seen more bugs now that I've subscribed to the "CC" version than ever before. Here's my latest issue..
When I activate the crop tool (I realize it's been rewritten.. not sure why), I see my current background color in place of what is visible in my current workspace. Ultimately, completing the crop command, it crops as expected, and the background color vanishes. What benefit is this? It adds confusion and makes me a bit confused as to what the final crop result will be. Why was this changed? Why am I seeing my current background color? It makes no sense. I've been using Photoshop for nearly 20 years and this is just dumb. Can anyone explain?
Thanks!
- Sean

Yeah, that was pretty vague. I was in a creative mode and was rudely interrupted by this weird change, so I wasn't focused on a clear post. The lack of direct email support to Adobe frustrated me also. Alas..
Bascially, I have a layer with some image data, and transparent regions:
I select the crop tool, and select a region just inside the outside edge, containing the portion of the image I care about:
The background switched from being transparent to my current background color selection. I had this green chosen for some completely unrelated task. I can't find anywhere that this can be disabled. The settings I have are what I believe to be the defaults:
And, when I change the crop settings to "Use Classic Mode", the behavior is the more sensible (in my opinion) current background:
I hope that clears up the confusion. I can't imagine any use case where replacing the current visible background with the current background color makes sense. If it's a feature, I can't find any documentation, official or otherwise, that explains why this is happening.
Yes, I like the latest versions of software, but since I made the jump from CS4 to CC, I've hit more bugs than ever before. I've had to kill Photoshop a couple times in the past two months, whereas before, it never froze up or crashed on me. This feels like a bug, but if it's a feature, I'd love to know how to use the new crop tool's background settings properly.
Cheers!
- Sean

LR 5.x crop tool bug: selection jumping on activation

Hi,
I did not see this reported, but I'd be rather surprised if nobody had noticed the issue before.
I'm seeing this behavior since I upgraded from LR 4 to LR 5. I think I did the upgrade with 5.3, but at 5.6 I still have the following problem:
After setting a cropping rectangle (usually with rotation), then change some settings (e.g. exposure, shadows, blacks, etc.) and then activate the cropping tool again, the displayed image jumps to the original frame size for half a second and then back to the previously set crop.
Since I usually go back to cropping only for small changes in rotation, this is especially annoying, because it irritates the eye in a way that I'm sometimes not even sure if I'm seeing my previous setting again. And then I have forgotten how I actually wanted to adjust the setting
This seems to me like a bug introduced in LR5. I'm using Lightroom since version 2 and never had this behavior until the upgrade to LR5.
I'm using Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, nvidia Graphics.
Steps to reproduce:
1) Open an image in the development module (I'm using Canon CR2 raws)
2) Set a cropping window
3) change some image settings, e.g. exposure
4) activate the cropping tool
Please fix this behavior.
Thanks,
Karsten

Thanks for the clarification. Too bad that the fix did not make it into LR 5.6.
I'm new here, so please apologize my beginners question: Is there a place where I can find bug reports that were accepted as known bugs? I tried the community search on cropping tool and did not find any related bugs.
Thanks,
Karsten

Crop Tool Confusion When Used to Change the Dimensions (but not the resolution) of an Image

Picture this. You have a real photograph in front of you. Its dimensions are 7x5 inches, and you want to cut out of that photograph, a 4x4” square. You’re not bothered by the rest of the photograph, you’ll discard that, so you mark your 4” square on the photo at the place you want to keep, and with a pair of scissors, cut (crop) the photo accordingly.
Using the analogy above, I’m having difficulty achieving what should be an extremely simple operation in Photoshop CC 2014. I have an image which is 5000px wide x 3800px high at a resolution of 240px/inch.
Using the “W x H x Resolution” option of the crop tool, I want to crop the image to 2100px x 2100px, maintaining the original image resolution of 240px/inch. No matter what settings I use in the crop tool toolbar, the crop tool insists on sizing the crop by assuming the full length of the shortest axis on my image. In this instance the vertical distance. If I initiate the crop, I do end up with a 2100px square image at 240px/inch, but the shortest original dimension (and hence pro-rate the image) has been rescaled and resized.
What I was expecting to see is the crop tool outline simply showing a square which represents 2100px a side at 240px/inch relative to the image I’m viewing. I would then drag the outline to the position where I wanted it, and then crop the image. This isn’t happening. I can manually resize the crop area with my mouse, and rely on the floating information pop-up to check the actual crop dimensions, but this seems counter-intuitive (not to mention difficult when attempting a pixel accurate crop).
Strangely enough, if I change the size of the crop window by using the mouse, and right click inside the crop area, the context menu has the option “Use Crop Box Size & Resolution”. Selecting this option updates the toolbar with the chosen crop size and everything is as expected. Surely, this is what the crop toolbar should do in the first place?
Am I missing something here? I may not perform this particular operation very often in Photoshop, but I’m sure it worked the way I thought is should before!
Regards,
Steve

What I was expecting to see is the crop tool outline simply showing a square which represents 2100px a side at 240px/inch relative to the image I’m viewing. I would then drag the outline to the position where I wanted it, and then crop the image.
You'd better use the Marquee tool for this. Set the desired number of pixels in the options bar. Click and drag and finally Image > Crop.

Crop tool in ACR

What has happened to the 'custom' crop tool in ACR? The only option now is for a custom ratio??? What happened to the custom size/resolution crop function??

This post belongs in the Camera Raw forum but I'll answer it anyway...
The Crop tool now operates in ratios only. I believe this was done to support a resolution independent workflow, which helps when creating images for multiple output workflows (print, web, video...).
You still have control over the size and resolution, but this was moved to the Workflow Options dialog box, which opens when you click the blue underlined text at the bottom of the Camera Raw dialog box. You can use the Resize to Fit options to output one image or a batch to specific size and resolution settings, which in a lot of ways is more flexible than the way it used to work. It's also now more consistent with how it works in Lightroom.

Crop tool precision - can it snap to whole pixels?

One thing that drives myself and every other designer I know crazy in Photoshop are tools that do not allow precisie snapping to the edges of whole pixels This is not such a problem with printed media and there are valid reasons to allow certain tools to snap to the midpoint of a pixel and it is nice to have the option to turn that on and off. However as a web designer I have a problem that has been getting on my nerves for several years and maybe there is another way I could approach this I am not thinking of.
Aside from templates where I can spend the time to create slices and export them as such, most often I am working on graphics that require me to select an area and crop / save for web on the fly.
Here is the problem.
The Crop Tool does not snap to whole pixels, or guides, or document bounds very precisely at all. Compare snapping to guides with a standard marquee box vs the crop tool and you will see what I mean. The marquee snaps with gusto, while you never really know if the crop tool is sitting halfway across a pixel without zooming far in (and even then I am not sure). The marquee ALWAYS selects whole pixels and cannot select a "half pixel" regardless of how much you try.
Because of this, I am forced to use the Marquee tool to select my area for cropping and using the "crop" command from the menu since it is the only way to crop with the marquee. However, the problem with THIS method is that photoshop does not preserve your layered content outside of those bounds. Therefore any Layer Effects (especially shadows) are changed drastically to the point where shadows do not line up across multiple slices (if individually exporting them this way).
Sometimes I am re-adjusting an ad layout to another size, and need to crop without losing the content outside of those bounds. Sometimes I just need to keep shadows etc intact. Sometimes I need that content outside the bounds for motion graphics purposes etc.
This is all just a bunch of hot air to essentially say I cannot find a way to EASILY crop, snapping to precise pixels AND keep the content outside of the new document bounds intact for further manipulation in a layered document.
Is there a way to do this I am not thinking about? Can you make the crop tool snap to whole pixels and/or force the crop command in the menu to follow the same preference setting you gave the crop tool in terms of keeping the content outside of your new bounds from being deleted?
I'd appreciate any suggestions on this.
If Adobe actually reads this stuff, I can assure that EVERY SINGLE photoshop artist I have ever talked to about this has the exact same complaint. I know hundreds of people who hate this (even the non-web designers who don't need as much pixel precision).

It never really hampers my productivity but this morning I had to crop an ad down to a smaller size and just started thinking of this...
I always drag a marquee selection out (box) when I need to add a guide to my document to ensure that my guides snap to the pixel edge.
One thing I just did that seemed to work with the crop tool well was setting the grid settings to a gridline every 10px with 10 subdivisions in preferences and then turning on the grid when using the crop tool. It does not seem to snap unless you are actually viewing the grid but the tool snaps to individual pixels.
Typically in my normal work flow when I am in the zone and just doing things without thinking, I drag a marquee around to set my guides for cropping, then draw a marquee box snapping to those guides, flatten image to make sure layer effects stay intact, crop, save, use history window to go back to un-flattened state, move on...
It would be cool to be able to use the crop command after drawing the marquee without destroying the layer content outside the new bounds, even a seperate command that adjusts the "canvas size" to the marquee bounds would be fine.
Its not something I consider to be broken but honestly when I deal with designers who are not web developers, one of the major issues I get with PSDs that need to be chopped up for a web site is pixels not being precicise and boxes being drawn with half-pixels and guides sitting in the middle of pixels. It is indicitave of something that could be improved for my own productivity sake AND to help designers keep things snappy and tight in their comps.
I've had to re-build countless nav-bars, and other elements because of blurry pixels, non-precisely measured spacings, etc etc to ever count. But at the same time it is good to have something to be paid for LOL.

New crop tool in CS 6 not an improvement

I'd like to add my comments to the unpopularity of the new improved crop tool in CS 6. It seems it is no longer possible to set a custom aspect ratio of less than an inch. If I want to crop the spine of a book out of a 2D layout for use in an action to make a 3D image, I have to do it freehand. If the spine is less than an inch wide and I try to set the width of the crop to that amount I get an error message saying "A value between 1.000 and 300000.00 is required." I admit the 30000 inches is very generous, but why limit the minimum to 1 inch? Unless I'm missing something. They say the new Photoshop crop tool now funtions like Lightroom. I would prefer it funtion like Photoshop.

John Waller wrote:
...But I think most people will post screenshots from whatever interface scheme they normally use.
Of course! Every poster has a right to limit the number of potential replies as he or she sees fit.
I'm just saying, some of us may not be able to contribute a helpful reply in those cases.
Anyway, thanks for the link:
Plea for Light UI to be used when posting Screen Shots
Apr 25, 2012 1:54 PM
I would like to put in a request:
I find it almost impossible to read the settings which were used when people post either Screen Shots or Demo Movies which were made with the dark UI
It would be great if people could switch to a Light mode before making explanatory Screen Shots (Cmd/Ctrl + F2 cycles through the GUI modes instantly and painlessly!)
And, if you are planning on publishing a book, do realise that once these dark screen shots have been rasterized, downsized and reproduced in Print, they become totally illegible!!!

Hello, my name is Todd, I recently dowloaded PS CC 2014. I have used PS for decades. The crop tool will show the progress bar, then at about 25% it will totally stop. What can I do? Thanks

Hello, my name is Todd, I recently dowloaded PS CC 2014. I have used PS for decades. The crop tool will show the progress bar, then at about 25% it will totally stop, even on VERY small 72dpi images. What can I do? Thanks!

Double check all the settings in the crop tool, and make sure you aren't telling it to create a HUGE image as a result of your settings.

Photoshop crop tool sticking Mac Pro

Processor 2 x 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon
Memory 32 GB 667 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 7300 GT 256 MB
Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.3 (11D50)
system spec as above,
whilst croping on a batch action in Photoshop cs5.5 c,crop tool has considerable issues cropping outside of image area,
have tons of Ram but i thought it might be a graphics related issue
using Wacom Intous 3 tablet with latest update
droplet actions fly and rest of tools work fine

Funny, I had asked to move this from the Power Mac forum to the Mac Pro forum..... How'd it end up over in MBP land?
I figured there have to be some MP users with similar hardware familiar with CS 5.5.....
Sounds like this is more likely to be a problem with your tablet or with Photoshop than with your Mac Pro.
Agreed, though it could be an OpenGL issue between CS5 and the Geforce card.
The 7300 GT is pretty "archaic" in relation to OpenGL and CS5.
Make sure OpenGL Advanced Settings are set Basic mode.
This article offers some troubleshooting advice:
http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/404/kb404898.html

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