Cropping to Custom Aspect Ratio

I have a landscape image which I want to crop to portrait with a custom aspect ratio, but Lightroom will only let me crop to the landscape format. Am I missing something here? Surely this should be possible.

It is possible, just not intuitive. Grab the corner of the crop and drag it sideways. You'll get the hang of flipping the crop after a few tries.

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Can the screen be cropped to and exported at a custom aspect ratio?

I think I'm needing Premier to do something it's just not designed to do. What I need to do is to take five or six different screen and audio captures of the same event (a 3D virtual reality instructional session), each representing a different person's view of that event, assemble those in a split screen, synchronize them to the designated "main" capture's audio, delete the other audio tracks, and add CG title labeling each one. The effect is like looking at a display showing six security camera images. From what I can determine, it is possible to do those things in Premier.
However, what I then need to do is to crop out any extra space to the left and right of that split-screen image and export the file as a .mov with the aspect ratio produced by the cropping so that the videos are as large as possible and are not distorted from resizing them to fit the standard aspect ratio. Depending on the size of the screencaps, the resulting .mov might have nearly a 1:1 ratio. What is critical for this is that the video be as large as possible and the "black" space be as small as possible so that the person who comes in later to analyze these composite videos can see everything as clearly as possible. I also need to crop on the fly; because these images aren't always captured at the same size, it is impossible to preset a size for the resulting video.
We've been using a screen capture tool to do this that works but is a pain; clips can only be moved and resized by mouse-drags, and the software has to import to and export from its own proprietary format, which is very slow. However, ever piece of "real" video editing software I've looked at only seems to export in TV or film aspect ratios. Quicktime Pro looked for a bit like the best bet, but it doesn't seem to be able to handle multiple audio tracks (which are necessary since I have to synchronize tracks by ear much of the time).
Is what I'm describing--exporting .mov files while preserving custom aspect ratios that are created by cropping during editing--something Premier can do? If so, would it be something fairly easy for complete novices to do?

medeamajic wrote:
On a Mac based system ScreenFlow might work best but on the PC side FRAPS might work best. You can do what you want to do with Premiere Pro once you record the screen capture. As Stephen_Spider mentioned you might need to crop and even resize the images. FRAPS can record at 1/4 the screen resolution and still have decent results. PP CS 5.5 can play several layers (6 PIPs) of the FRAPS codec at 1/4 resolution in realtime.
Thanks, but we cannot change the screen recording process. According to the study's protocols, the virtual world has to be full-screen or almost nearly so during the session, and that full screen has to be captured for analysis. Resizing the screen captures is not a problem (especially since I already said I'm doing that), but if you're saying that Premier can only play back up to six screen captures simultaneously if they're captured at 1/4 screen, then that's a deal-breaker right there.
By the way, here's approximately what each of the completed composite videos looks like:
Screencap 1
Screencap 2
Screencap 3
Screencap 4
Screencap 5
Screencap 6
Each screencaptures is resized to the largest consistent size that will fit into this format, and then the resulting video is cropped to the outside border. If there are only five screencaptures, I simply center the single one on the bottom on the "center line."
And, to be clear (though I've said this several times already), this is something that is already being done. We probably have more than 60 of these .mov files, each around 45 minutes long, with five or six synchronized screen captures in each. Frame rate etc. has not been any issue with these, and neither has playback of the .mov file from HD or DVD.
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Remove custom aspect ratio

Hi all,
I set up some custom aspect ratios in the crop and straighten tool window for a project I was working on. Now that I'm done w/ them I would like to remove them from the drop down menu. Can some one tell me how this is done?
Thanks,
Mike

As Pete says, they get overwritten with new ones, but that only answers the question indirectly. You can't remove them from the list and make the list empty, except by deleting the preference file. This removes all customisation though, and returns Lightroom to first install preferences. Not something to do lightly, because all of the print/slideshow/web settings you've used are stored there also.

How to change custom aspect ratio in Lighroom 5.

I am having trouble changing custom aspect ratio in lightroom 5. I can change it in 3 but it doesnt work in 5?

Custom aspect ratios are just that, ratios. There is no size involved. You control size in the print module or in the export dialogue. There is no provision in Lightroom itself to change the size of the image. Lightroom imports the image taken by the camera and displays all the pixels. Any sizing that you want done is enter your control using either Lightroom features. The original image size cannot be changed.

Delete Custom Aspect Ratio.

Is there a way to delete, or otherwise remove, nonsensical Custom Aspect Ratios?

Yes, thanks, Bob. I should have said I already did that- the problem is it shows all monitor profiles (which I will weed) and a series of "dot gain" settings, and working color spaces, too, and Japan this or that. It's hardly a real issue for me- just means I have to scroll sometimes. Some of these are buried in the app., and some just shouldn't be shown.
The real issue has now become that in attempts to clean up my desktop copy, I perflorkenated my copy of PS there. Oh, sigh.... :)

Add custom aspect ratio to crop tool drop down box

hello,
i need a few custom aspect ration settings to my crop tool. is this possible, its horrible to do this manual.
regards

Mark,
That's actually a great idea that you brought up, although it still isn't quite suited for my case.
By the time I've gone into projects, I would have typed in the ratio already. But I can see the benefit of doing this batch.
On your great idea...
I've always liked how lightroom presets worked (you could have presets of many different settings into one easily selectable one), versus Aperture only having presets for individual adjustments. Your method would come really close to a global preset as in Lightroom. I've been thinking about this for such a long time!

Help with custom cropping and known aspect Ratio's

I would like to crop a small part of a larger image with custom / free flow dimensions to the crop and then be able to print / export at a know print friendly aspect ration. An example would be a taking a crop of one person in a couple,from a larger image. The crop is outside common aspect ratios. Can lightroom fit the image to an aspect ratio of my liking whilst maintaining everything I have cropped?
Thank you in advance

Clearly we can't get one aspect ratio into a different aspect ratio without either trimming bits off, or else leaving gaps.
So the best I can suggest is: crop in Develop according to the subject content that you don't want to see.
Then in Print, set up your print layout (or choose a print template) which contains an image cell of the desired size and shape.
There are two ways that a photo can be put into such a cell: it can be fitted "loose" so that you always see the whole current crop, leaving white margins as required; or else it can be fitted "tight" using the Zoom to Fill checkbox. In the latter case, LR applies an additional print-only crop which forces the image that is seen, to adopt the shape of the cell. So the aspect ratio of the Develop crop, does not need to have been exact for this precise output.
This print-only crop will only remove further bits of the photo, not put any back - unlike the Develop crop. But you can slide the image around for the best composition, in terms of what it trims off.
Your main (Develop) crop has not been altered in any way by doing this, and can of course still be adjusted further also, which will in turn alter how the zoom-to-fill appears.
[ edit add: The Develop crop might be made specific for a particular print shape, but does not have to be, with the above technique. Maybe one actively wants to retain the camera-original aspect, with other kinds of output in mind. In any case, page margins often mean that the actual printed area is not quite exactly the same shape as the notional page anyway - a "10x8" printed with a half-inch margin on three sides and a three-quarter inch margin on the bottom, would print 9" x 6 3/4" (which is a different shape than 10x8). And all that would need to have been worked out each time, re-cropping the main composition for each different output size, margin width, etc then re-cropping it back again to 3:2 (or whatever) for your web upload. That can be managed through presets, virtual copies, snapshots - but sounds like a lot of extra work to me. My own images are cropped for general purposes, but each one remembers its last print settings also - which places it onto a page in the needed manner.]

How do I import custom aspect ratios (768x1024)?

When I drag a 768x1024 clip to the timeline it says that the video properties of this clip are not recognized and it offers no option for real custom dimensions. The strange thing is that when i scrub the clip in the area above the timeline, the staging area, it recognizes the aspect ratio as 768x1024 and the display shows the video perfectly.
I've tried selecting 2k and cropping in Compressor but that did not work. Any ideas on how i can get app to understand 768x1024? Or how I can use compressor to crop what it does understand (2k) down to the aspect ratio i need?

Here's what I did on a PC. Should work similarly on a Mac.
Open Adobe Media Encoder CS6.
Select your customer preset.
From the "Preset" menu, select "Export", and choose somewhere to temporarily save the preset file.
In AME CC, you then need to import these files.

How to crop without changing aspect ratio/Crop mode

Is there a way to crop in Lightroom without changing the aspect ratio? That is my first question.
My second question, is it better to use APS-C crop mode on my full frame Sony A7R if I know at the focal length I'm gonna crop, or just take it full frame and crop in the software? Are there disadvantages to this when it comes to uses flash's etch?
Third, Currently I do not have a portrait lens as the Sony A7R is new and does not have many lenses out yet. Until the 90mm lens comes out I was thinking I could use the Zeiss 55mm 1.8 in Crop mode for a portrait lens. That would make it around 88mm would it compress the background nicely the way an 85mm lens normally does for portraits?

This is what I usually do, now I know for sure my aspect ratio has been locked. As far as shooting in crop mode though, what I meant about that is this; For portraits, if you take a 55mm and shoot a portrait with it, the background doesn't look that compressed, which I like. Even if it's at a good F stop. It'll be out of focus, but not "compressed" And seems to show more flaws in the person. This is why with my Canon I always used my 85mm or my 100mm. I know some who will only use a 200mm due to this type of compression that happens at longer focal lengths.
If I was to shoot in crop mode, making it 88mm, would it give me that affect? The compressed look I get from a 85mm? Or would it simply just crop it like I do in post and not really make a difference.
Sony has yet to come out with a portrait lens and I need one bad, I've been offered little jobs here and there and can't take them because I don't want to disappoint them. I'm waiting for their 90mm, because that is close the 100mm and 85mm I shot with on the 5D for portraits.
Not to same the subject here but, 'Benjamin Root Photography,' has been a great help to me on this forum. I also torn between getting the 16-35mm F/4, or the new 24mm F1.4 prime, for wide landscape shots, because landscape and hiking is where I do most of my photography.
I don't plan on actually shooting a landscape at 1.4, but if it's 1.4 that means if I stop it down to F 8 on a landscape it'll be tact sharp. But it is not a Zeiss and is only going to cost 500. On the other hand, there is the 16-35mm, still I'd shoot around F 8 or even higher for landscape, the problem is, if it's F/4 won't that mean it'll have to stop down much further than the 24mm to get a sharper picture?
I don't guess I can go telephoto, like anything over 100mm because I have the A7R. People say over 100 mm it has shutter vibration, so at 200 or 300 I wouldn't buy until the A7R ii comes out. I'm not willing to get the regular A7 ii because I really like the advantage of having all those megapixels for cropping purposes, and it just plain looks better. Which is why I took my Sony A7 back for the A7R. Everyone was saying the photo's were more impressive than the 5D Mark iii's with the Zeiss 55 1.8 vs 5D with 50 1.4L. That wasn't really the case with the A7, but when I got the A7R I seen a HUGE difference in dynamic range.
I've heard the A7 is better at focusing than the A7R, but since I switched to the A7R I have noticed literally no difference. But I don't shoot fast moving subjects.
With both cameras I notice the face detection and EYE AF is hard to get to work properly. If I let it auto focus fully It'll focus on the wrong thing a lot of times even though the green boxes say the right thing.
So, I have been putting it on a single point, keeping it at the center, focusing on the eye, and then recomposing. That's mostly how I did with the 5D anyway. I never allowed it to choose focus points for me either.

CUSTOM ASPECT RATIO SQUISHING IMAGE

I have a 720x486 clip that I'm cutting into a 300x250 sequence. Problem I'm finding is in both square & DV pixel aspect ratios, my image is being "squished" both horizontally and vertically.
Any ideas on how to keep my original D1 aspect ratios within a modified 300x250 sequence?
Thanks in Advance!
Trevin
g5 Mac OS X (10.4.4) work

Is there no way to place a D1 clip into a custom aspect sequence without it modifiying the original clip?
As long as your Pixel Aspect ratio is correct, you should not see distortion. FCP will scale a clip when you drop it in, but it should not distort it.
In my experience, this works best if you start with an 8-bit sequence (aka 720x486) and then alter its Aspect Ratio - not its Pixel Aspect Ratio, though - from CCIR 601 NTSC (40:27) to Custom. Then alter your frame size to 300x250.
Of course, once you've placed your clips into the sequence, you'll need to remove the scaling (but it should not distort any of them).
I've had to do things in unique aspect ratios, and I've never had an issue so long as I've done it this way.
Care to share your workflow?

Custom Aspect Ratio

I am working on a project that is using a custom 1:1 aspect ratio display, or a series of them. I need to produce some "mock up" content on the display, is there any way to export a 1:1 DVD to play on the displays HDMI in?
Thanks

As Jim says, you may need to find a player like my IO-Data (way old and no longer available) that plays Windows Media files from a CD or DVD or USB. But mine is Component video, not HDMI.
Or, get a small PC with HDMI output from the video card to play your video. Maybe even a laptop.
On the other hand, what would the 1:1 player do with a 16:9 or 4:3 image? If it center cuts it, then just drop your footage on to a 16:9 or 4:3 sequence with black bars on the side and see how it looks.
What kind of display is it?

Does FCE support custom aspect ratios (eg. Macbook's 1280*800)?

I've recorded some screencasts with Screenflow, and I need some crossfades and basic titles in them. I was going to do it all in iMovie, but iMovie only supports 4:3, iPhone, and 16:9 aspect ratios, and I don't really want to crop or letterbox my movies. My movies were recorded on a 13" Macbook at 1280*800.
I looked at the manual, but I couldn't find the answer.

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I am curious about how to measure custom-made aspect ratios, for example, when using the "Widescreen" matte filter in FCP5, I select the "1.85:1" setting. If I increase the "border" setting to "10" does that make it 1.95:1? Thanks very much for your help!
- Jordan

Please refer to the following thread for info on this matter:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=340553&tstart=0
- Jordan

Custom aspect ratio for Iscorama footage?

I'm planning on shooting some video with an Iscorama anamorphic lens on a Canon EOS 6D. The Iscorama gives the image a 1.5X horizontal squeeze that must be decompressed for the footage to be viewed normally. What I need to do is adjust the aspect ratio in iMovie '11 so that the horizontal dimension is expanded 1.5 times, while the vertical dimension retains its original value. This will result in the original 1.5:1 aspect ratio being rendered as 2.25:1. Is this possible to do in iMovie '11?

Leigh Hanlon wrote:
… Other than buying FCP, is there a less-expensive way to accomplish this?
best to my knowledge, only the 'pro' versions of NLEs (FCP, Premiere, Avid) offer this feature.
… but you spend so much money on a superb cam - give it an approbiate edit app

Customized aspect ratio

Hi,
Im trying to create a project in FCPX with an aspect ratio of 3840x1080, however it appears that FCPX doesn't support customised aspect ratios. Is this correct?
If i want to achieve this how can I. I read somewhere that i may need to use Motion, is this true...i have no idea how to do that even though i have the software.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Bridget

You can't create *projects* with nonstandard sizes, but you can workaround this limitation if you follow the instructions here:
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/payton_t/FCPX_Custom-Resolution-Timeline s/video-tutorial

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