Cross Reference Range?

Need to get a cross-reference to range some pages, say page 16-19
At the moment I'm creating two text anchors, one for each page, 16 and 19, then inserting the page references as two entities.
Is there a better way?

Eugene Tyson wrote:
Ok - doing the cross-reference range works that way
The Paragraph Numbers are done with "<paraNum />"
And I use that for the cross-reference - but sometimes it pulls the entire paragraph in instead of the Para num?
Capturing a paragraph in a cross-reference when its format is not defined with the <fullPara/> or <paraText/> building blocks, AFAIK is not a known bug.
To be sure the cross-reference format's building blocks are correct, build the format's expression by clicking the plus sign button in the Cross-Reference Formats dialog box, rather than by typing it or copying it from other defined formats.
To cross-reference a range of pages, insert a page-number format cross-reference at the beginning and end of the range. When content is added to or removed from between the cross-reference source markers, page number references adjust if needed. Take care not to delete the cross-reference markers when deleting text; it's helpful to work with hidden characters displayed. Moving a page that contains a cross-reference marker, as you'd expect, changes the page number reference.
InDesign cross-references don't update automatically; you need to click the Update cross-reference button in the cross-references panel, or click the option in the cross-references panel flyout menu, to fix the yellow warning symbols.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices

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Hi, Seir:
I agree that it's confusing. Here's how I do it:
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HTH
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Hi Van,
I fear, I expressed myself not very clear. I try again.
We have DITA structured documents. However, lastest status often was saved in the FM document. The xml documents often are not representing the final status.
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It is a great effort to make new cross references just because we upgraded from FM8 to FM9. (And of course always at most inconvienent time.)
As we are thinking of upgrading to FM10, it would be good to know before, if there are any similar issues to expect.
Or if there is an fix for FM9 or FM10 to avoid this at all.
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I am exporting my Framemaker documents to XML. However, when I open the raw XML, the reference formatting is obviously gone. So instead of seeing, say, see Figure 6. I now see, see .
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Josh,
The normal behavior is to have an empty element with the ID/IDRef markup that allows the xref element to be resolved again afterwards, by whatever post-processing step you put the XML through. The text of a cross-reference is a FrameMaker formatting artifact (not unlike a paragraph format, etc.) and is intentionally discarded during export. If you reimport the XML with the empty element, FM will re-resolve the xref, and then will restore the text using whatever format it originally had (the format name is also stored as markup).
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I'm getting some annoying odd behaviour with cross references in Frame 12.
I have some tables, where the paragraph style in the cell is called "Cell Body" (nothing odd there).
Quite a few of the cells only have one word in them, and that word is set to courier font with a character style (called "Code").
Then, elsewhere in the document, I am referring to this text using cross references. I am referencing the paragraph style Cell Body, and the cross reference format applied is like this "<hyperlink><$paratext><Default ¶ Font>"
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However for about half of these cross references, it isn't picking up the Code character style in the source text, so the cross ref is just green, no green courier.
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The ones which failed to pick up the courier look the same as they do in Frame (just green).
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Arnis Gubins wrote:
Using two character tags in-line together (a la <hyperlink><Code>) is asking for trouble. IIRC, FM doesn't re-apply these in order on an update and depending upon how they are defined (and what is set to AsIs), the outer one usually wins. .
So why does the blimmin' dialog invite me to do precisely that, by providing me with a list of all the character styles I have, and allowing me to select as many of them as I like??? /sulks/ Indeed, if Frame still shipped with a printed user guide instead of stupid "optimised for viewing on iPhones" online webhelp nonsense, I suspect I might very well be able to find an example in the manual of using multiple character styles in that dialog! If it doesn't want you to use more than one, why doesn't it grey out after you add the first one? /sighs/ The concept is called "cascading styles", it's a fundamental web paradigm! And it works in the main body text - why not in Xrefs!
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But, rant over, I shall follow your splendid suggestion for a "Code Hyperlink" style.
Arnis Gubins wrote:
Also, x-ref formatting may behave differently in the new Publishing modules depending upon ....
...Depending on how badly designed and buggy this new Frame12 feature is, I should say! The Publish module should not randomly stop behaving in a WYSIWIG manner in completely undocumented fashion just because Adobe couldn't be bothered to code it properly. /sighs/
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I have an eighteen-chapter book, where all the figure numbers, table numbers, and the first- and second-level numbered headings are prefixed with the chapter number. It would be a nightmare if (as is possible) the chapters were to be reordered later in the day. So I put each chapter in a separate ID document, put all the documents in a book, and made liberal use of the 'Chapter number' text variable.
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Is it possible to retain FM cross-references from structured to unstructured FM documents during an XML round trip?
From what I know, cross-references between or inside structured documents form pairs of ID and IDREF, while cross-references to unstructured documents are dumped as normal text and lose their functionality.
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Johannes,
This is just a guess, because I do not do this.
First, of course, you cannot export the unstructured file to XML, because it is unstructured.
Second, IF the cross-reference from the structured file to the unstructured file were done via your cross-reference ELEMENT, then the cross-reference element should export to XML as an XML element with one of its IDref attribute set to the ID of something in the unstructured file. When you open the XML file in FrameMaker, the cross-reference is re-established.
In other words, when exporting to XML, FrameMaker does not care to what you are referencing. It just converts the cross-reference element into an element with an attribute in the XML file. So, it should work as expected when opened in FrameMaker. Of course, I am assuming your read-write file is set up to handle cross-references.
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Hope this helps,
Van

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