Cross validation on cost allocation flexfield

We have setup a cost allocation ff with the option to cross-validate segments. We have correctly defined cross validation rules. Yet, when entering costing information for an element entry, the system allows us to enter a combination which violates our cross-validation rules. We have already checked that this combination was not existing before we created the rule so we do not understand why the rule is not working. Any ideas?

did u try with the below error message
ID HRD for the flexfield segment Profit Centre does not exist in the value set PROFIT_CENTRE.
checking value set which is is referring

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after reading payroll UG, i am a bit confused about cost allocation flexfield for payroll, assignment, element link, org,element entry.
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