Crysis on 2.8 Octo with 8800 GT

I wanted to let you know that I get 32FPS with Crysis maxed out running at 1280x720 under XP SP3. I edited the config files to get the DX10 Very High settings under XP. I hope the MAC 8800 GT runs as nice and cool as this PC version.

hey I need your help. do you have the 8 core mac pro with the ati 2600 video card? Can you please run avp2 multiplayer demo and quake wars demo in XP and let me know if they run?

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Mac Pro with 8800 Card Availability

On Jan 21 ETA for Mac Pro with 8800 card was 2-3 weeks. Now, on Feb 2, ( 12 days later ) ETA is still 2-3 weeks.
Anybody heard anything more definitive?

Why not just go out and buy the "stock" Mac Pro with the default ATI 2600XT card right now, and then just order the Nvidia 8800GT separately. Then when your 8800GT card finally arrives, sell the ATI card for $100 or so on eBay. All you will end up paying is about $70.00 more than the BTO option ($375 (including tax) for the 8800GT as a standalone option, minus $100 for selling the ATI 2600XT=$275 out of pocket cost vs. the $200 BTO option).
That way you can have your Mac Pro right away (as I have for the last 3 weeks), and still get my 8800GT at or around the same time as yours for only a $75.00 difference.
Having my new Mac Pro NOW is worth far more than saving $75.00. Time is $$$$$
My standalone Nvidia 8800GT is scheduled to arrive Feb 28th (according to Apple). I already have a buyer with the 1st. generation Mac Pro that will buy my ATI 2600XT when the 8800GT arrives.
Also, you might even have further delays with the BTO option if Nvidia has supply problems that could drag on into early to mid march if you hang with your current order.

23" Cinema Display with DVI-ADC Adapter. Won't turn on with 8800 card...

I am running Windows XP on a pc. I have had the ACD 23" with the DVI to ADC adapter for 4 years now and it has been flawless. I ran this using an nVidia 6800 Ultra card and then an 8800 GTS 640 MB card. All was well. I just got a 2 new cards for 2 diferent pc's and neither will recognize or turn on the monitor. Both a brand new HD 2600 pro ATI card and an NVidia 8800 GTS 512 card. The monitor works fine with my 2 PC laptops via their DVI connections and my MBPro. So it appears the monitor is fine. This is not the "can't see the monitor in the bios" issue, I can't even use it as an additional monitor in dual view mode when at the desktop as it is not recognized as being connected. Any ideas?
PS I also applied the latest bios update to the nVidia card from EVGA.
Thanks,
Reed

Did anybody find a solution for this?
I bought a new T420s. The second week I had to send it in service because it was not turning on anymore. I couldn't convince them that the laptop suddenly restarts several times a day. And only after two weeks when it did not start anymore they told me to send it in the service.
No they brough it today. They made my day happy for 10 minutes until I turned it on and the wireless problem described in this topis apeared. The Inetl diagnostics tools installed with the card say: "Hardware radio is off". It worked before being send into the service.
Now, the wireless switch is on and I see the adapter installed by "no wireless connections available".
Pressing Fn-F5 it tells me to turn on the radio (the switch thing). But that is already turned on.
So I called again to ask them what is wrong. They told me they would send me a new mini wireless card that I can replace myself. I received it today, replaced it. BUT THE SAME BEHAVIOR!!! (((((((((((((((((((((
So I wonder, can the service guys (Wädenswil, CH) be so unprofessional to have forgotten to connect/enable the switch button?
PS:
1. The wireless LED is not turned on at all.
2. BIOS has wireless enabled
3. Device Manager sees the unknown network adapter (when driver uninstalled) and the Intel Wireless adapter (when driver installed)
(This double failure means a divorce from Lenovo products for me. Once I solve this issue I sell the laptop.) Yes I know service is better than other, but I want something that doesn't need it at all.
At least the Dell guys send a guy (freelancer service guy) at my place to fix the isssue. Now it is not only the costs for shiping it and investigate the problem (that are on my side) but also the productivity problem now costing us more than one month not beneffiting 1 minute from this laptop.
A very sad,
Gabriel

Mac Pro 2008 with 8800 GT, hard freezes with screen savers/OpenGL. You too?

I have been experiencing random intermittent hard crashes of my "early 2008" model 8-core Mac Pro. Now I have finally found an easy reproducible test case (see below), and hope others will try it and post the results. This is a video-driver related crash that I have now duplicated with two different video cards.
The symptom is that my screen randomly freezes. The mouse moves, but there's no way to use the Mac[1]. Holding the Power button to force the Mac to shutdown is the only way out.
Usually, this occurs when I get to my office in the morning, or after the gym. That's because the screen saver is running. I found that the screensaver, other OpenGL/3D type applications, are what triggers this bug.
The bug seems to be with the graphics driver. Immediately before the freeze, messages like this are printed in the system log:
Mar 26 18:34:14 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: NVChannel(GL): Graphics channel exception!
status = 0xffff info32 = 0xd = GR: SW Notify Error
Mar 26 18:34:14 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: 0000000c
Mar 26 18:34:14 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: 00200000 0000502d 00000470 00000000
Mar 26 18:34:14 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: 00000482 000002ac 00000003 00000003
Mar 26 18:34:14 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: 00000000 00000000 01be0003
Mar 26 18:34:14 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: NVChannel(GL): Graphics channel exception!
status = 0xffff info32 = 0x3 = Fifo: Unknown Method Error
Mar 26 18:34:14 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: 0000000b
Mar 26 18:34:14 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: NVChannel(GL): Graphics channel exception!
status = 0xffff info32 = 0x3 = Fifo: Unknown Method Error
Other errors like these also appear (the actual log output volume is too large for this forum):
Mar 26 21:15:15 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: NVChannel(GL): Graphics channel exception! status = 0xffff info32 = 0x6 = Fifo: Parse Error
Mar 26 18:34:14 Mac-Pro kernel[0]: NVChannel(GL): Graphics channel exception! status = 0xffff info32 = 0xd = GR: SW Notify Error
Anyway, finally I found on another thread about a similar issue[2], a recommendation to run Folding@Home program to trigger the freeze. They were talking about another Mac model, but sure enough, it triggers my problem every time. I downloaded the client[3], installed it, and then launched the app which gets put in the Applications folder. It doesn't even finish bouncing once in the dock before the Mac Pro freezes.
This is not a bug specific to Folding@Home; juding from the log messages and the effect, this is exactly the same crash that is intermittently triggered by the default Mac OS X screensavers (I use Arabesque, but I think any OpenGL screen saver does it). It's just that running Folding@Home is an easier way to trigger the bug than leaving your screensaver running for hours.
So, that is pretty unfortunate, right? I mean, not only can my new Mac Pro not sleep without losing all unsaved data (yes, I have the reboot-instead-of-wake problem[4], too, but that is another issue...) but it also crashes at random whenever the screen saver runs for a while, or somebody uses OpenGL programs. I have set my machine to never use the screen saver, but still.
So, first and foremost, my question for other 2008 Mac Pro owners with the 8800 video card is: does your Mac puke all over itself when you launch Folding@Home?
I just found it a little bit hard to believe that every Mac owner of the most expensive new Mac and the higher end video card will have these crashes. It could be, but it seemed far-fetched. So I tried some troubleshooting:
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1.) I considered that I had a bad video card, so I got another GeForce 8800 GT and installed that. Still crashed.
2.) I disconnected my second monitor, and tried it with only one monitor. Still crashed.
3.) I booted from the pristine boot disk my Mac shipped with (10.5.1). Still crashed.
4.) I reduced the resolution on my 30" Cinema display to 800x600. Still crashed.
5.) Just to stave off the usual chorus of "try zapping your PRAM" posts, I zapped the PRAM. Of course, this did nothing (I don't think this has really fixed a problem since the 1990s...). Anyway, it still crashed.
6.) In doing all these tests, I disconnected all USB/FireWire peripherals.
7.) My Mac is totally up-to-date with Software Update as of Thu, Mar 27, 2008. Mac OS X 10.5.2.
I don't want to return this Mac to Apple; it is wicked fast and that really helps me with my work. But, the frequent crashing really is a productivity-killer.
So: does every 2008 Mac Pro owner with an 8800 GT have this problem?
(Note: there are lots of similar problems with other Macs and the new Mac OS X 10.5... I hope to specifically address this particular model and crash in this thread.)
If not, I will go to the next extreme step: pulling out some of my RAM. I have 12GB of RAM, and it all seems to work fine, no parity errors or anything. But I know sometimes problems don't happen unless there's "too much" RAM, "too high" resolution, and so on. But I would like to hear from others before I go banging on my precious DIMMs and riser cards.
Thanks for any information!
The next step will be to determine if this is just another unfortunate defect that affects ALL 2088 Mac Pros (in which case I would want to keep my fast Mac and wait for fixed drivers), or if perhaps just a subset of them have defective video cards that cause the driver to crash in this way (in which case I would want a replacement).
---------- NOTES: ----------
[1]: I can connect via SSH on the command line to the Mac. However, the GUI environment seems borked; opening apps or trying to gracefully quit them via AppleScript either does not work or really hard freezes everything, such that SSH no longer works either.
[2]: A similar (but perhaps different) issue affecting notebooks is discussed here, and there are some people with Mac Pros, too: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6786960
[3]: The Folding @ Home client, which can be used to trigger this bug, can be gotten here: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download
[4]: The severe defect affecting many (most?) 2008 Mac Pro machines' ability to sleep without losing data is discussed in this other thread: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1353551

Hello guys, thank you for the replies.
I do have more data at this point.
ujeezy: Those posts on MacNN and others like them did give some clues.
Jon BWFC: I think you are (partly) right that it's (partly) an issue with the driver. But I have confirmed with a fair degree of certainty in my case that it is a hardware issue too, likely with the video card and not the Mac Pro itself.
cmcom: I think it sounds like you problem is different than the one we're talking about (although who knows, the driver could be causing that too). The freeze we are seeing locks up the whole Mac, and no application crash report is produced.
I had another GeForce 8800 card, so I went through some exhaustive troubleshooting. I tested each card, installed in each of the 16x slots, booting from either my normal 10.5.2 boot disk or a clone of the pristine virgin system disk that shipped with the Mac, and tried to see if the Mac would crash.
Unfortunately this was harder than it seems, because:
a.) both my GeForce 8800 cards appear to be defective, but in different ways (see [1] and [2] below)
b.) In my testing, I thought I was seeing the crash sometimes, but later I discovered that there are different ways to make the Mac crash like this. That is, there are bugs in Mac OS X 10.5.x (probably in the NVIDIA driver) that cause similar crashes, and these bugs occur on all Mac Pro units and even other Mac models, without any hardware defects. Unfortunately, the Folding@home exercises one such bug.[3]
So the upshot is, all those times I was using Folding@home to test this issue were bogus, because Folding@home crashes any Mac Pro with the NVIDIA card, and crashes MacBook Pro machines with NVIDIA chips as well.
Argh! So I had to retest. It took a couple of days but I found another reliable way to crash my Mac Pro, more quickly than just leaving the screensaver on for a day or two: run this OpenGL virtual fish tank simulator[4] for 2-3 minutes. Unlike the Folding@home test, this did not crash any of my other Macs, and after exhaustive testing I found that it ONLY crashed the Mac Pro with one of the GeForce 880 cards installed, and not the other one. This was regardless of what slot it was installed in or what boot disk was used.
Whew! So, I concluded that indeed, there is a hardware defect in one of my GeForce 8800 cards which causes the machine to lock up. [2]
What made this problem much harder to deal with was the fact that Mac OS X (specifically the graphics driver parts of the OS, perhaps NVIDIA-specific) crashes with these same symptoms in other cases too. Like when you run Folding@home, or in some of these cases people are talking about with their MacBook Pro machines.
So, when there is a bona-fide hardware defect, it is really hard to isolate. (It took me like four days.)
The thing is, the defective NVIDIA card that crashes the Mac[2] was a REPLACEMENT card for the 8800 card that shipped with my Mac. I called Apple about the video artifacts I was seeing and they replaced the card.
I am now running the original card (and suffering the ugly video artifacts, but no crashes). At my own expense, I ordered an ATI card (the RADEON HD 2600 XT) and I will install that.
I hope someday to have my Mac work without graphics glitches or crashes. For now, operating (mostly) without crashes will have to do.
The original problem with this Mac continues, though: the video doesn't work correctly; it starts displaying visual artifacts after 1-72 hours of use[1]. That could either be because:
a.) a hardware defect in that video card
b.) a software problem with the driver/OS
c.) a hardware defect in the Mac itself
I strongly suspect A, but hopefully my buying a different card and testing with that will help further isolate what is wrong.
I am marking this thread "solved" because the specific issue I originally posted about has been resolved: the GeForce 8800 card causing the crashes is defective, and using another card fixes that issue.
[1]: The original GeForce 8800 card that shipped with my Mac Pro exhibited annoying-but-not-deadly video artifacts, which can be seen here: http://masonmark.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/bogusvideoartifacts.jpg
[2]: Apple replaced the video card, and that is when my deadly video-corruption-plus-frozen-Mac crash problem began. A screenshot example of that problem can be seen here: http://masonmark.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/crashedmac_pro_akashitball.jpg
[3]: The red herring in this case was the Mac OS X bug (seemingly specific to NVIDIA-equipped Macs including Mac Pro and MacBook Pro) that causes a very similar full system crash. This bug can easily be triggered by running the Folding@home version "6.10beta2" demo application. That is a serious bug, and since my employer is a Mac software company I reported this bug to Apple via the official channel. It is Apple bug number 5830772.
[4]: The OpenGL fish tank simulator I found, which would trigger the system crash caused by my defective 8800 video card (but would not crash any other Mac, or crash my Mac Pro with the other 8800 video card installed) can be found at: http://uri.cat/software/Fish/

Problem with 8800

I have unlock 8800. v4.2.1.68 (platform 2.3.0.54)
My problem is with dialing a number. few local numbers when I dialed I get the message "customer is not available" . When delete the number from phone book and direct dial it goes through. When I installed my sim card in other phone no problem.
Only time I have this problem when number is save in phone book, otherwise the number is going through without problem.
please help
Solved!
Go to Solution.

There could be any one of a couple solutions... Try these:
1. Make sure you set your own country code at Phone dialer Screen > Options > Smart dialing.
Set your Country Code in this format: "+xx" where xx = your country code. Some countries have two or three digit Country Codes. Do not place the '+' in your contact's entry.
* In the US, set this Country Code as "+1", and place your local area code in the proper box (this normally the default setting in a new BB).
2. At the same location, change the National Number Length to the number of digits for your country (since some countries will have less than 10 as set as the default in the BB). Find out the total digits, minus the country code. Do not place the '+' in your contact's entry.
* For example, some countries have a total number to 8 (plus 3 for country code). You would enter "8".
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Incoming calls issue with 8800 carbon

Hi I just bought an 8800 carbon but I'm having an answering issue. I can make calls absolutely fine but when receiving calls, it resets my phone (the caller gets a busy tone and the phone goes back to the intro screen & tries to get service again)... No idea what the problem could be. I'm with Fido in Canada. Any suggestions?
Thanks

hey guys I found the problem. It was the name display option with Fido. I removed it from my plan and its all good now!

Can't use SMS app with 8800 Sirocco / Bluetooth

Hi all,
I can use the Communication Centre to browse phone images / video, contacts etc, but when I use the SMS application, it does not work?
It will not read messages from my phone, or even send. It simply says "Failed to send the message".
Does anyone know what the issue may be??
I have the following system info
===========================================
PC Connectivity Solution:
Version 8.22.2.0
[Nokia Connectivity Cable Driver:]
Version 7.0.2.0
Operating system:
Microsoft Windows XP 32-bit Edition, Service Pack 2
Language: English
Language for non-Unicode programs: English
Detected Internet browsers:
- Microsoft Internet Explorer 7.0
- Mozilla Firefox 3.0 (Default browser)
Detected Bluetooth stacks:
- Microsoft (Version: 5.1.2600, Build: 2180)
===========================================
Phone Info -
Nokia 8800 Sirocco
v04.10
212-12-06
RM-165
===========================================
Can anyone help me on this??

Hi joysa,
I have tested this issue with Nokia PC Suite 7.1.18.0, same issue still occuring in Windows XP 32 bit ... I think i have to check if this phone has got its own PC Suite

Can't remove second display with 8800 GT. please help! this is frustrating!

I have dealt with this problem for a long time now, but having just bought a wacom tablet, I need to finally resolve it and I hope someone here can help because I am at my end with it. I just can't think of anything else.
I have a 8800 GT video card in a Mac Pro. All software is updated.
I have a 30inch apple cinema display, and was using it solo for a long time, then for a project, I hooked an old LCD monitor vida the VGA to DVI adapter to the second monitor slot on the card, and had both monitors running in the extended desktop mode. Everything worked fine.
The problem is, now that I want to get rid of the other monitor, my cinema display does not want to run solo anymore. I have tried rebooting with only the cinema display plugged in, I have tried switching ports on the card (both with and without rebooting), and I have tried unplugging the unwanted monitor. When I do ANY of these, the cinema display goes blue, then black, and the light on the front blinks three times over and over.
It is as tho the video card does not want to autodetect the displays, nor does it want to reset any settings and run without both monitors in extended mode. And since OSX does not give specific software for the video card, I am limited in displays to make any real changes. There is no option for turning off extended desktop, only mirroring the displays (which, yes, when I choose it then unplug the other display results in the same problem of no picture).
My wacom tablet uses the tablet as being the screen from corner to corner, so obviously with the extended display, the center of the tablet is not the center of the monitor and it makes it impossible to use easily.
Please, if anyone has any ideas for me, I am begging for help. This is frustrating to no end!!
Thanks in advance.

Buzz,
thanks for the help. I especially want to thank you for being the first person to reply a post of mine on this subject ever (on multiple help boards as well).
Unfortunately what you told me to do still didn't work.
When I re-mirror and then un-mirror the displays it puts it back into extended mode. and when I unplug the second monitor, the HD display shuts down and goes black. it will not turn back on (even with a reboot) until I have something plugged into the other port, at which time it goes back to extended mode.
This is really frustrating, and the first time I have felt helpless with my mac. I try support and they of course tell me they can not help me since the monitor's extended warranty ran out...even tho the computer's warranty is still up and this is of course a video card problem, not monitor.
I'm about to give up and either reinstall EVERYTHING on this **** computer (which will result in me losing a lot of editing add-ons and other programs I bought but stupidly can't remember where I got them from) or just throw the whole thing in the trash. (heh yes, I am that frustrated). :/

Early 2008 with 8800 won't boot

When the machine is post chime.... I get horizontal blue lines that look like tire treads up and down the screen which makes me think video card. In verbose mode it stops in the same spot each time... the drive is reading I can hear it and then it just stops loading. I did FSCK -FY in single user mode and it modified things, ran it until it again until I got the disk was "okay" message. I get the blue lines regardless of the boot device, and no drive will boot all the way in. The funny thing is, this happened yesterday and after doing the FSCK -FY in single user mode everything booted fine, but after sleeping the machine last night it woke up not working, just blue lines on the screen. Things I've done:
Flashed the PRAM many times.
Unplugged everything and let it sit for 15+ seconds, then plugged in display and keyb to clear the SMB
Removed RAM and tried various combinations. No LED indicators to indicate RAM issues
Reseated all drives and the video card, as well as RAM obviously see above
I pulled the trigger on a new video card which will arive whenever it gets here in case it is the card. Got the ATI 5770 which supposedly works on the Early 2008 model. I had been planning on doing this for awhile as playing RIFT has had the video card fan revving constantly so it's been pushed hard, plus I do a lot of video editing. If anyone has any other ideas please let me know. The last shutdown condition = 3 whatever that means. Any other ideas would be apprecated. I'll post back otherwise when i get the new card and report.
Eric

Oh and I had forgot to mention, I'd tried more than one display, and both DVI ports on the 8800 with the same result, so the cause of the lines is not external.

Problem with 8800 Sirocco

Hey i have just bought a 8800 sirocco edition phone. I want to transfer music onto the phone from my PC via bluetooth as i have no wires or anything to connect any other way. I try to connect via bluetooth but it says cannot be connected check that you have the correct software drivers etc. I dont know what programs i need to do it or anything so if anyone can help me i would be grateful. thanks
MIKE

Hi,
Go to Control Panel and open Microsoft's "Bluetooth Devices" BT UI. Does it work OK???
If not then your BT HW is using some other vendor BT driver (and Nokia is not support that one). How is made that BT driver and what version it is?
If you want to try to use MS BT driver:
1. Go to Control Panel, System, Hardware and Device Manager.
2. Open Bluetooth Devices (or Radios), select that device, click Action, Uninstall and OK.
3. Click Action and Scan for hardware changes.
(windows should automatic update install MSBT drivers)
4. After that there should be "Microsoft Bluotooth Enumerator" installed also.

Need help with 8800

Need to put swedesh lang. in my telefon i have arabic and english

Hello.
I think your problem needs to be checked out a Nokia service center. There they may help you in choosing the language sets for the phone you are using right now maybe by reflashing the firmware or some other methods which are probably not possible for us consumers to do in our own hands.
Cheers.
The world might be a better place if you were I.

Graphic Card 8800 GT Vs X1900 XT With BootCamp

Simple question for you guy's, I have a Mac Pro Rev A, and play a lot of Counter-Strike and Half-Life, maybe Crysis, depending of your answer, with bootcamp, so has anyone have a Mac Pro Rev A and buy a new Nvidia 8800 GT to replace the X1900 XT that came with your Mac Pro, if yes, was it a good switch, do you regret it, have you see any improve in the visual performance, does the 8800 GT graphic card a better choice in this situtation, thanks in advance.

Since Bare Feats tests with gaming software what more do you need? It's only worth the expense if the degree of improvement is worth $300 to you.
The benchmarks are you best indication of whether the card is better or worse. They are also far more reliable than having someone give you their opinion without any data to back it up.

Crysis Warhead 64-bit Won't Work with Windows 7 64-bit Under Boot Camp

Hi. I installed the patch 1.1 for Crysis Warhead which has the 64-bit version of the game which I'm running under Windows 7 64-bit on Boot Camp and I've tried the the compatibility mode (Vista to Vista SP2). I've also updated the ATI drivers as well as the Boot Camp drivers. I'm using the latest Snow Leopard.
When I click on the game's application (64-bit version), it would launch then it goes black with just the mouse cursor (you can move it about) which seems to be in low resolution and I guess it would crash so I would push the button on this late iMac 2009 and Windows would go back to the desktop then shutdown.
Has anyone made Crysis Warhead 64-bit work with Boot Camp Win7 64-bit with this iMac (it has the ATI 4850)? Is this because it's Boot Camp or that it's Windows 64-bit or is it the ATI graphics chip? Thank you in advance. Gbu.
Message was edited by: Alvin777

since bootcamp allows windows to run natively, it's not an imac issue, but rather an issue with your windows, so you probably get better answers in a windows forum or the crysis forums.
in any case, installing newer ATI drivers (ati.com) might help, but it's just a wild guess

MSI 8800 GT 512 MB compatible with Windows XP

Can somebody give me an assist on this. I am planning on buying an MSI GeForce 8800GT 512 MB
Video card. Newegg has these in stock but the spec only indicated Directx 10 support not
DirectX 9 or 9c support. Is the card downward compatible? Anyone running this card under
windows XP.
Like everyone else I need this upgrade to run Crysis demo. With my existing card and
everything overclocked I can run crysis demo at low res with low settings with strange
artifacts now and then.
Abit Fatal1ty AN9 32X
AMD Athlon 64 X@ Dual Core 5000+
3Gig G.Skill DDR2
EVGA GeForce7300Gt 512 MB

Don't worry, found this on anandtech.com:
The transition to PCIe 2.0 won't be anything like the move from AGP to PCIe. The cards and motherboards are backwards and forwards compatible. PCIe 1.0 and 1.1 compliant cards can be plugged into a PCIe 2.0 motherboard, and PCIe 2.0 cards can be plugged into older motherboards. This leaves us with zero impact on the consumer due to PCIe 2.0, in more ways than one.
URL: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140&p=4
and this on tomshardware.com:
Finally, the GeForce 8800GT introduces PCI Express 2.0 support, which will double the bandwidth (moving up to a bi-directional 8 GB/s) with an X38 motherboard. This won't change anything from a gaming point of view, but could be more interesting for workstations, professional software or applications using Nvidia's GPGPU CUDA. It remains, of course, fully compatible with PCI Express 1.0.
URL: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/geforce_8800_gt/page2.html

Early 2008 Mac Pro + nVidia 8800: Never going to work?

This forum is littered with threads about early 2008 Mac Pros with the nVidia 8800 card - none of them positive.
I was unfortunate enough to wait for Apple to release such a machine and buy it. Graphics performance is dire given the hardware available. The machine routinely crashes with the window manager hang problem (the user interface just locks up, yet network services etc. still work), in the way familiar to anyone blighted by this particular bug; just run the Folding@Home client on your machine if you want to experience the joy. Or screensavers, sometimes, so I've had to turn those off. And I've had to turn off monitor power saving too, because I too suffer from the 'monitors sometimes don't wake up' bug. And of course I can't sleep the machine either, because firmware upgrade or not, it's still not reliable. And after all this, still the machine crashes.
SSH to the machine; try to restart cleanly; even 'sudo reboot' won't restart it. Apple have achieved something I've never seen out of any Unix or Unix-like operating system, ever; the kernel is unable to kill its own processes.
There have been no indications from Apple that I've seen on these forums over several weeks that the problem is even being acknowledged, let alone tackled. Latest reports indicate that even the 1st gen Mac Pro owners are suffering if they install the 8800.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1460752&tstart=0
My machine rarely makes it through the day without a forced reboot due to the window manager hanging. I can't do any work on it. I can't rely on it. I can't enjoy it. I can't even use it for web browsing without fear of it hanging.
There seem to be no facts about this at all. So all I can ask for is opinions. Does anyone have any offering of hope that early 2008 Mac Pros might ever work properly with 8800 cards? Y'know, little things, like actually being able to handle graphics? Or sleeping the monitors? Or, heaven forbid, sleeping the whole machine? Or should I just send it back as unfit for purpose?
Yours, tired and exasperated... :-/

I posted this in some other blog (forum), I should have posted this here also but I hope this gives you and all with these problems hope!! I also ran some fish tank test some else posted to get the folding problem to happen and I can not get it to happen at all now, and since my 8800 went in I get NO LOCKUPS, SCREEN FREEZES, shaky blurry video when I boot, so far NOTHING, IT JUST WORKS!!!!!!!!
Now that I think about it the person who said to use the fish tank program had a bad 8800 and maybe you do also!! here is the link to that:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6965475&#6965475
I purchased my first mac pro early 08 2 months ago (amazon.com).
2 quad core 2.8's, 2 gig apple 4 gig OWC total 6 gig ram,2-WD raptors (1st mac 2nd boot camp winxp 32 bit), apple care.
I had all my problems with the ATI card (I always purchased ATI, never Nvidia, for all the PC's I built) a couple of times I bought the first ones out, these had all kinds of problems until good drivers that actually worked were released (usually 6-12 months after the release of the card).
So I try not to buy routers, graphic cards, etc.. for at least 6-12 months, but back to my 2600 card!!
When I received my mac the graphics would freeze, I did a lot of online reading only to find out the ATI 2600 was the problem, the cure was to hook up 2 monitors to the card (and that worked!!).
Then they came out with the firmware update, now my main monitor would after 2 days on a reboot be scambled (samsung syncmaster 213t, NEVER had ANY problem with it before on any PC I had, so I knew it was not the monitor) to fix the problem I had to either turn power off to the syncmaster or resetting PRAM (worked for a couple more days, then the same problem).
I called apple and they sent a tech out within days to replace the ATI card, the replacement did the same thing after a couple of days, so I called Apple back and they took a bunch of info from my computer (BTW not much at all loaded in the mac side) and said to call back in a week, so I called back a week later and they said they were going to exchange the card for either another ati 2600 or the Nvidia 8800, I said 8800 and a day later on a saturday I received it, swapped the card and NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS at all!!
So I don't know if the ATI card has problems with certain monitors or they are just poorly made (maybe AMD is mad with Apple that Apple did not use AMD processors).
I have read others that swapped with the 8800 and their problems went away also!!!!
Maybe some have no problems with the 2600, but I would not recommend it to anyone, if you can avoid the 2600 GO WITH THE 8800, the drivers will get better (and the 8800 will eventually outperform the ATI)and you will not be sorry.
Apple is awesome, they are 2nd to none, their is no other company like this anymore that I have dealt with in a long time (not just because they gave me a 8800), like I said in the beginning of this post I always purchased ATI cards and would have kept it if it would have worked but 2 doing the same, ATI [AMD] has lost my support until they prove otherwise.
I recommend Mac's to everyone now!!
good luck and let me know it any of this has helped!!!!!!!!!!

Crysis on 2.8 Octo with 8800 GT

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