CS 4 Tabbed view and moving layers b/w documents

I want to know if it's possible to select a layer from the layer palette start dragging it and move it to another open document while in tabbed view. It is possible when each document is in a separate window.
I am on OS X 10.4.11 with CS 4 11.0.1
Thanks.

Great feature no need to drag and if you do not have to go to that document at the time of you layer export then you can continue to work in the current document without refocusing.
Interesting feature and another argument as to why this is more efficient then a lot of open windows floating all around the place.
I guess some users are missing out on a lot of advantages with this mind set about the old ways.
BTW do any of you think there is a point where you can be working to fast and you end up making time consuming mistakes?
I can see were speed is required if the process takes a log time or if it doesn't really take a long time it can always be as instantaneously as possible but isn't there a point in time when speed is a detriment.
I am glad there are lot of users that think the tabs and application frame is a good thing.
It has made my life so much easier with a less cluttered working method. Bravo Adobe.

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> Hello everyone, I'm having some
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