CS3 & ACR 4.6 - camera profiles questions

Happy New Year to All
I am using CS3 with ACR 4.6. I installed the beta 2 camera profiles.
Is there any way to get the newer profiles without having to upgrade to CS4 and ACR 5?
I only see nikon d2x in the list. Are there other camera profiles available?
Thanks,
Paul

Paul,
Also note that there is a forum a couple of doors down dedicated to ACR and DNG issues. See: http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?13@@.3bc03c04
Thanks.
Neil

Similar Messages

ACR 5.3 RC - ACR 4.4 Camera Profile Appears Twice

Just installed the 5.3 DNG converter and Camera Raw RC/beta onto a WinXP SP3 system.
The ACR 4.4 profile appears twice in the ACR 5.3 Camera Profile drop down box for a Canon 30D DNG file.
Anyone else?

SCraig, this is likely because the original "ACR 4.4" profile got embedded into the DNG when you created it originally. So now you are seeing two copies of ACR 4.4 in the menu: the one that is embedded in the DNG, and the one that comes with Camera Raw. They should be the same functionally, however -- i.e., if you flip between them there should be no change in rendering. Let me know if that's not the case.

Lightroom 3.6 / ACR 6.6 Camera Profiles Missing

Greetings.
I've read through so many threads about this, and still can't make camera profiles show up in either LR 3.6 or ACR 6.6.
I'm shooting RAW with a Nikon D7000. The only camera profiles available are Adobe Standard, Camera Standard, Neutral, etc. LR/AC recognizes the RAW file was produced by the D7000, or at least that's what shows up as Make & Model in the MetaData.
I've checked the path
C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles\Camera\NikonD7000
and the 5 DCP files are present.
I've confirmed LR/ACR is reading from this path by exiting the software, and temporarily changing
...\CameraProfiles\...
to
..\FUBARCameraProfiles\...
and when I then launch LR/ACR, I get a message that camera profiles are missing.
I'm using Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit, logged in as the administrator to eliminate any security issue, and I installed LR/ACR as the admin as well.
Lens profiles work fine. On all my RAW file, the lens is correctly identified, and I can choose it from the dropdown for lens correction.
If anybody has any ideas on what else to try, I'd be grateful.
Happy New Year, all!

The camera profiles that you see in Lightroom don't specify which model they are for. They are automatically chosen for the camera that took the raw image. If you see Camera Standard, that is the Camera Standard for your D7000. When I see that one, it's for my D300.
Here's what I see for a Canon S90:
Here's what I get for a Nikon D300:
The v4's probably aren't there for you, but you shold see the rest of them.
Hal

Camera Profile question

I am really struggling with this and have googled until blue in the face. The "camera profiles" in the develop tab, how do I get the new profiles in older pictures?
I have a 50D and color reproduction on older profiles aren't so great. The newer one (ie 4.6) looks better. But some of my older pics are set to 4.4 and no option to change.
Am I going about this wrong? If someone could give a good explaination of this setting, it would be GREATLY appreciated.

Jim-
What version LR? O/S?
Your older pix, presumably not 50D, right? I my understanding is correct, those older cameras won't have, in most cases, a new version of ACR that changes any settings for that camera. You may be able to use the camera pre-settings. What cameras?

Setting Camera Profile question

Canon 40D in Lightroom 2.3
While reading the FAQ I noted the statement for the Canon settings:
In general, there are 5 CM profiles per Canon DSLR, one for each of the default Canon Picture Styles. These five Picture Styles are called Standard, Portrait, Landscape, Neutral, and Faithful. The CM profiles will match the Canon Picture Styles with all Canon sliders (i.e., Contrast, Color Balance, and Saturation) set to their default values of 0.
What if the Standard style does NOT have the default setting to value of 0?
If the styles should be at value 0 for Lightroom to apply the profile then the words should say exactly that.
My other query is if including several ISO settings when preparing the specific camera profile.
If the image that is open while preparing the profile and settings to be saved as a camera profile has an ISO 200 then when are other ISO ratings included in the camera profile?
Is the camera profile updated by opening another image with an ISO 400 entering any specific adjustment settings then do the update the camera profile? This routine to be repeated for any other IS0 rating.
The detail of adding these ISO ratings to the camera profile are not specificied at the site I visited
http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr_camera/camera-defaults.htm
nor do I see it in the FAQ
Appreciate any clarification.
Rose

>What if the Standard style does NOT have the default setting to value of 0?
I guess you are referring to the sliders in Lightroom. The text in that FAQ refers to the settings in your camera that override the picture styles. The sliders in Lightroom need to be at their default settings. Those are NOT zero for a lot of the sliders. The default is 5 for blacks, 25 for contrast, 50 for brightness and the tone curve at medium contrast. Everyting else should be at zero. Using these default settings and a camera-matching profile will yield you a rendering that mimics the in-camera jpeg with the same picture style, provided you do not modify the settings in your camera.
>If the image that is open while preparing the profile and settings to be saved as a camera profile has an ISO 200 then when are other ISO ratings included in the camera profile?
The profiles are ISO independent. The color rendering is independent of the ISO of your camera so there is no need for separate camera profiles at different ISOs. To generate a camera profile, you only need to shoot a single image (actually usually two, one in daylight and one in tungsten light) preferably at the lowest ISO so that noise does not screw up the calibration. There are other things automatically taken care of in Lightroom depending on ISO such as baseline noise reduction.
>The detail of adding these ISO ratings to the camera profile are not specificied at the site I visited http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr_camera/camera-defaults.htm
nor do I see it in the FAQ
This page talks about camera defaults. This is something completely different from the camera profile. Camera defaults are simply default Develop settings dependent on which camera your RAW file came off off. These default settings can include the application of a camera matching profile and the defaults can be ISO dependent.

ACR 5.2 camera profiles and Nikon D700 color artifacts

Using LR 2.2 or Photoshop CS4, conversions of D700 NEFs often result in peculiar color 'artifacts' (posterization?) in certain images, when using the new camera specific profiles like Camera Standard (or particularly Camera Landscape). Typically, the Adobe Standard or ACR 5.2 profile don't exhibit this behavior, at least not with significant changes to saturation and contrast.
An example of this can be seen at http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3400/3179948383_cfda478eb8.jpg (LR 2.2, Camera Standard profile). Question is whether these sorts of results are expected? I'm otherwise quite happy with the new profiles. Thanks,
Mike

Mike,
1. You may be happy if the problem goes away with the lossless compression, but it would be a nice service to the D3/D700 owners' community to
b prove
this. There are many photogs convinced, that the lossy compression does not cause visible loss (Nikon created a myth about this issue already with the D70).
If you can create pairs of shots demonstrating the effect and would not mind my using your images, I would spread this on other forums as well, as I did with the D300.
2. Re WB:
i normally
you can accept the WB interpretations of different raw processors, but not if the issue is just the WB. The fact, that the displayed color temperatures are close, does not mean much: the color temperature is not absolute. I don't go so far as to say, that it
i should
be different between CNX and ACR, but you can not rely on the number.
Even the snow is clearly reddish in the ACR created JPEG. You may complain about ACR's WB conversion, but that is a separate issue. In order to compare the colors, first the greys have to be made grey in both conversions.

ACR 5.2 cam profiles different for nef and cr2

My profiles for D300 nef include the D2X ones and Vivid. When I loaded a raw from my Canon 1ds mkii there was no D2X or Vivid profiles just the other ones. Is this the way it should be?

What you are seeing is normal behavior. You only see the profiles for the specific camera that took the picture. You would not expect to see Nikon profiles listed or a Canon camera. In that same light, different models of Canon cameras might have different profile names as well.

Develop module, camera calibration, Fuji X Pro 1 Camera Profiles question

In Lightroom 5.3 with camera raw 8.3, for my Fuji X Pro 1 lightroom is only showing "Adobe Standard."
Is there a way to have it recognize the various shooting modes on the camera?
The initial raw preview looks awesome, but as soon as lightroom builds a preview, it goes back to the standard flat and dull image that will require tweaks.
Surely I am just overlooking something?

You’re not overlooking anything.
Adobe doesn’t recognize shooting modes of any cameras; however, for Canon, Nikon and now Olympus, Adobe supplies “Camera Match” profiles for some theoretical shooting modes, that are closer to the camera JPGs than Adobe Standard but are still just approximations. Adobe has no way of knowing exactly what other companies are doing for their raw-to-jpg conversions so it’s a bit of reverse-engineering to get what they have, now, anyway.
Fuji X-trans cameras are particularly troublesome for Adobe because of the novel camera sensor layout and I wouldn’t expect Adobe to spend even more time doing custom X-trans things unless the camera’s become a popular professional platform. Somehow I doubt that so don’t hold your breath.
You can change the Develop Defaults for your camera if you want things to be different than the initial Adobe-factory-defaults look. Experiment with applying your tweaked settings as a Develop preset during Import, first, while you perfect the new Defaults, look.
You can create your own color profiles for your camera if you’re willing to spend the $100 on a Color Checker standard color target.
Basically don’t both setting things on the camera to affect how your raws are developed in LR because they won’t translate across, except WB. Spend your time learning what to do to get LR to make things how you want them with the least effort.

Cs3, camera raw 4.0, camera profile is locked at acr 3.3

Hello
i am using pscs3, and wanted to use a colorchecker passport to fine tune my color balance. i *thought* that after running the xrite software, that their profile of my D200 would appear in a dropdown list under "camera profile" in the camera calibration tab of ACR 4,0 --- but the camera profile is locked at ACR 3.3, and there is no dropdown. suggestions are very welcome.
thankws

Most of the problems with ACR are one of 2 things. Either you have more than one copy in the folder, or you have it in the wrong folder.
In PS click on help/about plug-in/camera raw. See what you have.
Plug in should be in program files/COMMON FILES/adobe/plugins/CS5/file formats

ACR Camera Profiles and Camera Manufacturing Tolerances

For every camera model there is one set of model specific ACR camera profiles. Although those profiles are model specific, they are not camera specific. I'd suspect that not all cameras of the same model will produce exactly the same colors due to manufacturing variations. I'm wondering if differences in color rendition between cameras of the same model are visible or neglectable? Any experiences?
A similar question: Taking the "same" photo with a Canon 550D and a Nikon D90 camera and processing the RAWs in LR with Adobe Standard profile can result in quite different colors (even when setting WB manually). Shouldn’t the processed photos look almost the same?
Thanks in advance for any help!

My Nikon D80 and D90 don't look the same and I have run comparisons between the Canon 7D and the Nikon D90. Taken together, they all different from each other.
The biggest difference between the D80 and the D90 seems to lie with the much larger dynamic range of the D90. Compared to the D80 at first glance, the D90 seems washed out at the lower values. This is easily overcome in ACR, but even with that, the subjectivity of the reproduction sometimes gives a nod to one over the other.
The closest film comparison is Fuji Astia vs Provia. The D90 at default Nikon Camera Standard resembles Astia, while the D80 is a cross between Provia and Velvia. All this is controlable. One slider I use to enrich the D90 presentation is the black slider
The Canon has other undefined differences which I have simply noted by viewing. I haven't engaged in any tweaking of that camera's images.
So I'll use both the D80 and the D90 according to what I am wanting to happen. Of course, there are times where the differences simply inform the operator of what may be doable, and then one is tweaked to look much like the other.
I checked out sprengel's links to the calibrator software. They have stopped at CS3, it seems. How does it perform with CS5? I may want to at least run a calibration of both cameras and look again.
And, of course, Adobe Standard and Nikon Standard do not agree. At all. So, when is a standard not a standard?
When there is more than one.
Looking back at your post, I should specify that the profile I used when making the comparisons have been the Camera standards, not Adobe Standard.
Message was edited by: Hudechrome

Beta Camera Profiles installation question

I downloaded Camera Raw 4.5 Plug in, which is needed for the beta Camera Profiles installation. CR 4.5 is definitely in the right place and working fine. According to Adobe FAQ, beta Camera Profiles belong in the Adobe folder in Camera Raw. I copy and quote here:
" Where are the new profiles installed on my computer?
On Mac OS X:
/Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles "
I do not have CR 4.5 in my Adobe folder, only in Plug ins. I do still have CR v 4 in the Adobe folder, but not v 4.5.
My question is... does the beta version of Camera Profiles automatically put Camera Raw 4.5 in the Adobe folder, or do I need to do something to get CR 4.5 there in order to install the beta Camera Profiles ? I've already messed up on the download/installation of Camera Profiles by moving it into CR 4.5 the plug-in folder. When I realized my error, I have trashed that.
Can someone give me some input here ? I'm clueless. This is not a BIG DEAL, as I'm getting along fine with CS3. I;m just curious to know how CR 4.5 gets in the Adobe folder>
Thanks
carolyn

O.K. I understand about v 4.6. At the time I installed ACR 4.5, it was the version Adobe said was required. What has happened since then I was unaware of.
Where I have the ACR 4.5 plug in installed is EXACTLY the path you describe, not the HOME folder, but in my HD. I can show a screen shot but don't think that works in this space. To follow my ACR4.5 plug in path, which is the same as you say above, here it is:
HD/Library/App. Support / Adobe /Plugins/CS3/ File Formats / Camera Raw Plugin
When I am in Bridge, the window shows Camera Raw v 4.5 at the top. So I must have it in the right place. I think you misread my original post as the path I copied there was copied from the Ådobe FAQ! link for the Camera Profiles, NOT for ACR. Sorry if I was unclear.
I totally understand that the beta Camera Profiles and ACR do NOT reside in the same folder. ACR is in Plug ins, and the beta Camera Profiles go in the Adobe folder under Camera Raw. But I do NOT have ACR 4.5 in the Adobe folder so that I can put the profiles there. So what am I supposed to do ??

Camera Profiles in CS3 Camera Raw 4.6

I've had a major computer failure and had to buy a new one.
I loaded PS CS3 again, did the upgarde which seems to have been sucessful and now have Camera Raw 4.6, but when I go to look at the camera profiles it only shows ACR 4.4, ACR 3.6, none of the camera profiles are visable nor is the option for Adobe standard which I had before.
I've gone to the Adobe web site to download the latest Camera Raw, which for CS3 is 4.6, which I already have.
I downloaded the Beta versions of the camera profiles from Adobe labs a few years back and everything worked fine. My new computer doesn't have the connections to enable me to run my old hard drive (yet) which has the camera profiles download on it otherwise I would have loaded them up again.
Am I doing something wrong?
Any suggestions gratefully received.
James

I mistyped. Bridge is telling me that it is failing to convert to DNG because the versions aren't compatible.
How do I tell it to select a certain ACR? Is that a Bridge option?
Right now, I don't get any thumbnail previews on my RAW files. When I try to open them in Photoshop from Bridge, it tells me that it cannot open the file. I downloaded the current DNG converter and now Bridge can't convert because the versions don't match.
I must be missing a simple step if this is working for other people...I've checked Photoshop several times and the Common files folder to make sure the 4.6 version is in there and it is. So it must be the DNG part?

ACR 5 - Support for Custom Camera Profiles

ACR 4 allows users to select from a list of four device-independent colour spaces (Adobe RGB 1998, ColorMatch RGB, ProPhoto RGB and sRGB). Unlike other RAW processors, it does not allow selection of a custom camera profile. This capability is very useful when colour accuracy is of considerable importance (e.g. reproduction of art works). Does ACR 5 allow for selection of custom profiles?

When this question had been asked in the past the answer has always been, "No, because these choices are all that you need." This may seem to be a rather close minded answer. But in reality the Prophoto color space encompasses everything else that is available. So the solution has been to do all of your work in ACR in Prophoto and send the image on to Photoshop in that color space. Then convert to the desired color space in Photoshop.

Pentax K10D: Camera profiles, "ACR 4.x" vs "Pentax 1.00". Which one is broken?

Hardware: Pentax K10D, use DNG raw format.
Software: Pgotoshop CS3, ACR 4.5, Windows.
ACR allows me to select one of four profiles:
(1) ACR 4.4
(2) ACR 3.7
(3) Embedded
(4) Pentax 1.00
And results of this selection is dramatic. And strange, too.
I have one shot with XRtie ColorChecker.
I select "ACR 4.4" (default) profile and set white balance by second gray patch in raw (18% gray) with White Balance Tool. Color temperature is 8000 and tint is -20. Ok.
I select "ACR 3.7" profile, repeat WBT, and get same results. Ok.
I select "Pentax 1.00" profile, and get.... Temperature 11500K and Tint +75!
I know, that profiles change color rendering. It is ok.
But why these two (ACR 4.4 and 3.7 is almost the same) profiles change color rendering SO DIFFERENTLY? Color temperature is universal number, daylight is about 5500K, good flash is always 5500K, D65 light source is 6500K (6504K), etc.
I thought, that good profile should give good neutrals, and in case of controlled light, calculated (by gray patch) color temperature should correspond to light source.
I understand, that different profiles could render skin tones, cyans, shadows and highlights slightly differently, and there are many discussions, which profile is better. But 3500K difference is not "slight difference" and is not question like "I like skin tones with this profile more that ones with another"! Am I right?
It seems, that one of profiles is broken. Which one? Why difference is so huge?

Essentially embedded was broken, not in the colors, but in the white balance mappings. There was an issue with the white balance values in the profiles originally embedded in the Pentax DNG files. As long as you do a click-WB __AFTER__ choosing your profile, the actual colors should be fine (but won't and aren't expected to match the ACR 4.4/3.7 rendering exactly).

"Camera Profile" in Camera Calibration ACR tab - Q

I upgraded from PSE5 whcih used ACR 4.7 - and now using PSE8 w ACR 6.1
In the Camera Calibration tab in the Camera Profile drop down - I see "ACR 4.7" still listed.
Can someone tell me how to make use of this tab and how I can delete the ACR 4.7 and use 6.1 - if there is a benefit to doing so?
Thank-you!

I think the issue could be that I have both PSE 5 & 8 installed at the moment. I'm using the 30 Day Trial - and I'll uninstall PSE 5 once I get my actual disc & serial # in the mail. I did not want to uninstall v5 until I had the v8 serial # and was convinced that v8 worked well. During the v8 installation - it recognised v5 but said I can keep it. My concern is uninstalling both and reinstalling v8 and having catalog & stack issues.
I installed the camera profiles as Adobe directs "before" pasting the new ACR 6.1 file in the folder.
Nevertheless, I installed the cameraprofiles.exe again today - previous to posting this thread.
I guess a main question is - what would I be missing out on by not having ACR 6.1 in the profile? (vs 4.6)

CS3 & ACR 4.6 - camera profiles questions

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for