Cs3 and printing

I have CS3 InDesign and an old HP Laserjet 4M printer. It seems i can't print from ID. It reads the ppd because all the options for the printer are there and when I hit print it downloads as it should. The printer's lights blink as they should when it's reading the data. Only problem is, when the printer is finished reading the data, it goes back to "ready" and doesn't actually print anything.
If I save the ID files as a PS file and open it in Preview (Mac), the file prints fine. Anybody know why I can't get a native ID file to rpint to the laserjet?
thanks
-mark

I had this problem in April 07. Wish I wrote down how I solved it because I upgraded to Leopard and have the same problem with the lines running through color management etc in the print dialog box. I found one guy on the Mac helpline who knew the answer. It was a simple fix.

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Have spent hours with both Adobe and Epson support people. I've read several of these forums. Is there an insurmountable problem with CS3 and Epson (2200/2400 are mine)? I have the Leopard patches and upgrade 10.5.4.
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I have been down this road before but here goes again...
Im using Photoshop CS3.
Im printing on an Epson Stylus Photo RX680 using Photo quality inkjet paper.
I know this printer is capable of very good quality prints.
Thing is I can not figure out the correct combination of color management settings to get a decent print out of Photoshop or InDesign.
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So what the heck IS the correct protocol for printing to an Epson inkjet printer from an Adobe app.
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I will look at the links you recommended. When 'Compensate for Scene-Referred Profiles' is unchecked in CS5, the monitors match. I'll need to do some research to see that that 'compensation' is, and what's happening.
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