CS3 Bridge keyword search failure

To the best of my knowledge this particular issue has not been covered in the dozens of prior posts about keywords. I apologize if I've missed it.
My photos, by the nature of their creation and paperwork generation, are organized by overall dividers, year, month, partial alphabetic breakdown, and customer name, respectively. I have a need to be able to find photos across all folders throughout the hierarchy that are of the same person. I've been using keywords of the individuals' names to accomplish this and it has been tremendously effective.
In 2009, it became necessary to move all images archived in 2008 to another location on the server. As one might expect, the keywords didn't jive with the index (my reasoning, anyway) and search functionality was ineffective. Not long thereafter, the functionality came back - most likely by way of a non-indexed keyword search.
The same issue has occured this year in that all the images shot in 2009 had to be moved. I have changed the manner in which the structure is built to prevent this from being necessary again in the future, but the keyword search is now not functioning again. However, this time I am unable to re-establish it. I have tried multiple non-indexed (with subdirectory) keyword searches both across the entire server and in smaller folder breakdowns. I have cleared the cache and searched again. Even if I open a folder with brand new files and verify keyword presence and accuracy, a search inside that specific folder will not return a result.
The question is: What have I done / missed?
Even if it had nothing to do with moving the 2009 files, I may have done something to knock something askew that's impeding my search abilities. I don't use Bridge for very complex tasks, so I might need some extra help, but I'm keenly interested in your ideas and expertise. Assistance in any form will be appreciated.

Im geting the same... I tried refreshing cache etc... but no avail...

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Mac CS3 Bridge - Keywords subfolders -unableable to create

I just reinstalled my CS3 Photoshop/ Bridge on my iMac computer. Had to replace the hard drive. I open bridge to add keywords for images . However when I want to add a subfolder(s) to the top level keywords folder it will not give me the option to make a subfolder within it . It only will allow me to add a keyword to the main folder. Example of what i use to be able to do : Top folder 'People', then sub folder 'Costume' , then keyword 'Fairy' or Keywords/People(folder)/Costume(subfolder)/Fairy(item). I use be able to do this, but now I can only add 'costume' and 'fairy' to the main people folder or Keywords/People(folder)/costumes(item) ,,, Keywords/People(folder)/fairy(item)? When I click and choose 'people' and then click the icon to add a keyword folder as a subfolder it jumps to the main directory and adds it to the first layer list and not as a sub folder. Any one know what to do ?

I'll play around with CS3 to see if I can make out what this "keyword subfolder" business means and report back.
Tai, just open the keyword panel and with the tiny menu top right choose create keyword and name it 'test', hit OK. With the new keyword selected again choose the same menu but now sub keyword. There should be appearing a nested folder in the newly created keyword 'test', and if you fill inhere 'test2'.
Now you have a new keyword 'test' with a triangle in front stating there is a subfolder nested, this would be 'test2'
Same can be applied with right mouse click menu.
It is a very easy way of finding back files, chronological order is very nice but after 15 years its so hard to remember what you have photographed but when it was makes it a lot more challenging...
Using keywords in a logical sense makes this job very easy. Adding a new keyword is only needed once and after this selecting the files you want to have it, put a checkmark in front of the wanted keyword and it saves to the file.
Using any search application like Spotlight (Ai, sorry about that, I mean of course Easy Find for you... ) or a DAM application, or even Bridge should make it a job of seconds to find the files with the applied keyword amongst the thousands of files saved on your system
Take it easy,
(En alvast gelukkig nieuwjaar!)
regards
Omke

CS3 Bridge Keywords: Location

I have many images divided into about 100 subfiles and when I wish to find a particular image, I go to Bridge's Edit menu and click on the Find entry. Within the Criteria section, I make sure keywords appears in the first box, and contains appears in the middle box. What I need, but cannot find, is a list of the keywords I have compiled so I can fill in the third box. I have 30 or 40 keywords in use and can't remember them all. It seems some such list should be available -- but where? Any assistance in how to locate a specific image (regardless of the subfile) using Bridge will be very much appreciated, indeed.
NOTE: I have reposted this message here from another forum at the request of a member more familiar with the mechanics of these Adobe forums. Thanks to all for your forebearance for the stumbling steps of one new to this site.

There is a keywords tab that is in the default setting. This is where you enter keywords, and shows all the keywords in your system. Is this not working for you, or are you looking for something else?
If that tab is not showing go to Window and make sure there is a check mark next to keywords.
You can also bring up the Find window with Crtl + F as a shortcut.

Bridge CS4 Keyword Search problems

Hi everyone,
I upgraded to Photoshop CS4 on the big day and have been trying to do some searches in Bridge. My keywords seemed to have transferred over from CS3 to CS4 just fine. At least, my files are showing the keywords I had tagged in CS3. The problem is that when I do a Find, no items are coming up. This happens whether I do Edit > /Find or use the new Quick Search bar. Anyone know if this is a bug? Or if there is something else I need to do?
Thanks! :)
Jan

Hi Bart,
Thanks for responding. :)
Yes, I'm searching the current directory and I can see the keywords in the filter tab. I hadn't tried the spotlight-based search before. I just did that and that did work, even tho the Bridge-based search doesn't. So that's good. But searching on anything, even any elements of the filename, do not work for me using Find.
But at least the spotlight based search works, so that will do.
Thanks so much for your help, Bart. :)
Jan

CS3 keyword search bug

Doing a keyword search in CS3, Bridge does not find most keyworded images I created in CS2. It may come up with 10 images. Just as I did in CS2, I go to Edit>Find>Keyword name>equals>If all criteria are met>check all subfolders. Has anyone had this problem and found a solution?
Thanks. Peter

Im geting the same... I tried refreshing cache etc... but no avail...

LR2 and importing keywords from CS3 Bridge

I've just started a 30 day LR trial and need some guidance, please, on successfully importing keywords from CS3 Bridge so that the complete heirarchy survives intact.
I've just imported the keywords to LR2 and found the heirarchy is mostly destroyed.
Also, Bridge allows you put a keyword inside "[ ]" (square brackets) if you want/need that word in the heirarchy but do not want it to be copied to the metadata. After importing to LR2, all the square brackets have gone.
I've imported some photos into LR2 but, when I look at their keywords, all the words which were within square brackets (and so not visible in the metadata in Bridge) are now visible in the metadata in LR2.
Anyone found a solution to this, please? I really don't want to have to re-keyword everything if there's another way.
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Ginger
I ran a test for you. Started up my old computer that has windows XP OS. Took a photo and added a keyword by right clicking as your previous post outlined. I then looked at photo in Bridge CS3 on old machine. There was no keyword. Copied to flash drive and looked at photo on Vista computer with Bridge CS3. Still no keyword. Ran a search on Vista advanced for keyword on flash drive, and it gave a hit.
So my conclusion is that the keyword is there, but Bridge does not read the XP generated keyword. It will read a keyword generated by same method in Vista. Don't know what else to suggest. Don't have CS4 so do not know it that works or not.
Perhaps with these clues someone else can figure it out.
Good luck

In Adobe Bridge, how can I display keywords in their hierarchy, do an "aka" keyword assignment, and perform multi-value keyword searches?

Hi Bridge Geniuses!
I need your help. I am using Bridge to sort and keyword a pretty big photo archive. I have created a pretty long nested hierarchy (4 layers deep, max) and, for a few reasons, would like the parent tags to be automatically included when I indicate a sub-tag. The problem I have now is that the keyword list is distractingly long and organized alphabetically. My first question is this: is there a preference setting in Bridge that will ask the program to display the keywords in their hierarchy? That is, will Bridge present the list as, for example, cars à hybrids à Toyotas à Prius.
My second question is: if I have two or more names that represent the same keyword, is there an “aka” function in this program that will allow me to direct searches for two or more different words to the same keyword entry? (For example, if I want my searches for “Bruce Wayne” to also show entries marked as “Batman.”)
Finally, I would like to know if Bridge will perform keyword searches for more than one word at a time. So far, I have tried entering two keywords with overlap at a time, separated by a space or a comma or a semicolon, and the search comes up empty.
Thank you very much for your help!

I reset my custom workspace and all seems to be well now. My keywords now show, the number of photos each applies to and I can again search.
Thank you.

Make Searching in CS3 Bridge more like searching within Photoshop Album

For example, in Photoshop album if I wish to see photos that contain BOTH "Tag1" and "Tag2", I click on these two tags and only those photos that contain BOTH of these tags appear.
In Bridge CS3 if I click "Keyword1" and "Keyword2", I see every photo that contains all of these individual keywords. What if I only want to see those photos that contain BOTH "Keyword1" and "Keyword2"?
Please make seraching within CS3 Bridge more like Photoshop Album.

If you click on the match box "all criteria met" seems like that should work as you want.

Any Program to sort by keywords faster than CS-PS6-Bridge For Keyword Search?

To sort by keywords in (CS-PS6)-Bridge one has to group all your folders under one overall folder. Then when you search by keywords (CS-PS6)-Bridge opens up all the photos in Bridge which take avery long time. Since Lightroom Smart Previews open up smaller files will it open up all ones pictures faster? and then can it sort by keywords.
I am assuming Lightroom smart preview opens up a larger size file than CS6-PS-6-Bridge and thus is even slower.
So the question becomes are there Any Program to sort by keywords faster than CS-6-Bridge For Keyword Search? i.e A program that doesn't have to open up a file to look at keywords or a way to open smaller thumbnails in Bridge?

Really?
You mean you can't just click on the Magnifying Glass in the Search Box like I can?
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And then Select Rating?
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And then click on the Third Dot and it will become a Star?
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Or even use a Smart Album? File -> new Smart Album: My Rating -> is -> And there's click on the third dot to make it a star trick again?
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TD

Keywords search script in Bridge with subfolders

From the forums and other research I have realized if you are on a network and tag a photo, a second user can search for the keywords if all the photos are in one main folder. Yet Bridge does not work with finding keywords within subfolders.
Does anyone know if there is a script or if a script can be written to trick Bridge into searching subfolders for keywords when in the root directory?

In the search box do you have a check mark for Search All Subfolders? Will also not find anything in other folders if they are not indexed.

Bridge CS6 keyword search isn't working.

CS6 on an iMac. I can see that my files have their keywords, but searching produces no results.
(Used to work fine, but it's been quite a while since I've needed to do a keyword search so I don't know when it stopped working.)

Hedi ®,
Quit Mail, open System Preferences>Spotlight>Privacy, and add your Macintosh HD to the list. Wait a couple of minutes, and then remove your Macintosh HD from the Privacy list. You should notice (after a short delay) that Spotlight is reindexing your HD. After Spotlight completes the index, open Mail and see if your search works.
;~)

How do I import Bridge keywords and metadata to CS6 from CS4 so that I don't lose them if CS4 is not

I have hundreds of keywords and metadata including Ratings and Labels using CS4 and Bridge CS4.
It is time to replace my PPC Mac with a new Intel Mac.
I am going to install CS6 on the new Intel Mac without installing CS4.
By default.... this eliminates ALL keywords and ratings and labels from my Bridge browser. The keywords will still be present on the files but Not present in Bridge keywords list and all ratings and labels will be lost.
Making a copy of Bridge CS4 metadata to another computer is quite simple.
Simply copy All of the Bridge CS4 application support folder to the other computer.
The question then becomes.... can I aslo do this with CS6 without introducing an incompatibility?
1. incompatible due to CS6 application support.
2. incompatible due to transfer from a PPC (APM) to Intel (GUID).
This concern results from an Bridge CS4 export problem I experienced.
Bridge CS4 will export all of your keywords and you can import them from a text file but it has some odd troubles. (try it and you will see)
This does Not mean that CS6 has the same troubles.
What do I require to preserve existing metedata and keywords that exist on a PPC using CS4 and import them into CS6 using Intel?
Sound simple?
I doubt it.
The points are.
1. CS4 not installed.
2. CS4 source is PPC not Intel.
3. Ratings and Labels are metadata that Are Not part of the file metadata and unique to Bridge only.
4. Keyword Search and keyword Use requires that Bridge have keyword list, otherwise Finder is the far more useful browser and the new version of Bridge will require hours of keyword listing.
I don't want to spends hours retyping keywords lists in Bridge.

Ratings are NOT placed into the file under CS4 Bridge and neither are
Labels.
That depends on your file type and settings voor Camera Raw.
Like Curt stated usually metadata is written in to the file itself. Only Raw files can't be written to and by default they create a XMP file, also called Sidecar XMP files (and do have the same filename, only a different extension called .xmp). These files are also by default hidden in Bridge but If you use Bridge to move files they travel along with the original.
If you move or copy them using finder you have to be sure these XMP files are also copied with the originals to the new location.
Using the menu View / show hidden files should reveal the XMP files.
An other option for the Camera Raw prefs is to set metadata to the Camera Raw database instead of written to sidecar XMP files ( to my knowledge using sidecar files has been the default since about CS3).
Now here it becomes a bit tricky and I only can tell you my findings, not to be confused with true facts. (and mind you, it is at least 5 years ago I was on a PPC and not even remember which OSX 10 was able to work on it, I just present the acting of CS6 on an intel Mac Pro with OSX 10.7, but I don't believe the difference in location is that much)
Having written the Metadata to the Camera Raw Database your image settings get written to a file in the user library preferences folder called logically "Adobe Camera Raw Database". But also some info gets added to the Camera Raw Cache folder (User library / Caches/ Adobe Camera Raw) in a file called index.dat.
Also not having set metadata to xmp sidecars stores the ACR settings in a new .dat file with a unique number (not to be traced as a corresponding filename. And also the default maximum is set to 1 GB of space and when full the oldest files are overwritten with the new ones.
Personally I use converted DNG files that are capable of writing metadata to so all info and settings are in the file itself and I don't need to bother about central storage that can get lost. The downside is that changes to a DNG need to save the whole file instead of a small xmp file and probably reading cache takes more time then getting info from central storage but I like to be on the safe side and speed is not really needed to be nailed down to split seconds in my workflow.
Keywords are stored as a file in the Bridge preferences but Like Curt already stated exporting the old list first and then via the same route import again to CS6 should solve your problem and they will be back as persistent, otherwise the files in the content window show as italic and sadly enough have to be made persistent one by one with right click mouse menu, so that is not really an option for you.
Exporting the list does create a text file that can also be altered manually with a simple text app and as said, again be imported in newer versions as Curt described earlier.
Making a copy of Bridge CS4 metadata to another computer is quite simple.
Simply copy All of the Bridge CS4 application support folder to the other computer.
Well, in fact it is true to call copying this folders a simple task but replacing the existing new CS6 would not be my method. The biggest change for Bridge CS6 was the transition to 64 bit and I lack the knowledge for this but also cache format for thumbs and previews has been different for every version.
But if you have located the CS4 folder for Bridge in your PPC user library / application support / Adobe / Bridge CS4 you should find a file called 'Adobe Bridge Keywords.xml' and it is fairly safe to replace this CS4 version with the new CS6 version.
Also custom settings for the output module can be copied (however to my memory the option for custom settings in Output where introduced in CS5) and collections can be copied.
So for your keywords the copy option might work, rating and labeling for Raw files they will be read in CS6 if they are stored as XMP. ACR settings idem but CS6 ACR has a new (2012) conversion mode that has different settings that do not work with previous settings (unless you first choose to use the 2010 conversion as default Raw setting.
If it is in the Central Data Base I would start trying to replace the CS4 with the CS6 edition (after back up of existing CS6 version) and see what happens. If it works your out of trouble.
You can also open the Camera raw Database as a text file but there is a lot of data in. Maybe scripting would be able to reveal those data and transfer to XMP but you have to visit the dedicated Scripting forum for this.
And while you state to have not installed CS4 anymore it might be wise to reinstall it (but first make a proper back up of the previous mentioned folders and files to be on the save side.
This gives you the opportunity to export keywords properly and if needed you can use Show Items from subfolders option with filter and set preferences to XMP sidecar to refresh the rating and labels to those XMP files. Just an escape route that might not be as painstakingly as it looks at first sight, just use the options for Bridge to filter.

Bridge Keywords driving me nuts! Please help......

I've been directed here by the good people at Elements Village as I have a Bridge specific question that you guys may be able to help with.
I've been using Bridge (CS3, I think) with PSE V4 Mac for several years and have multiple and extensive keywords applied to all my tens of thousands of photos.
I've upgraded to PSE V8 Mac with Bridge CS4. The PSE side of things is fine now. But my Bridge keywords are completely screwed up. With some technical help I've been able to copy my keyword tree from one version to the other. But the problem is that although Bridge is reading my existing keywords, it's throwing them up out of sync, in different parents and in multiples of each keyword. So whereas I had created "All Kids" child keyword under "People" parent in my old version, in the new version "All Kids" appears twice - once as a new parent and again as a child under "Activities", as well as under the original "People" parent. I can't delete the extras as this will remove the tags from all of these photos. I can't move into the "People" parent as there is already a category there and I although I can deselect the incorrect "All Kid" tags and only select the child keyword in the correct place, when I search again on this keyword, it chucks them all up again, with multiple "All Kids" checked. Furthermore, not all photos that I've tagged with All Kids have all three "All Kids" keywords selected, some only have one or t'other tagged.
Obviously, I can make persistant one or both of the new "All Kids" keywords, but neither are in the correct place in my tree and neither will allow me to move them.
This has happened with ALL my existing keywords - multiple copies, in multiple locations.
I've tried resetting the Bridge preferences.
I've tried going through them keyword by keyword and deselecting the new, out of place keyword and re-selecting the correct keyword - to no avail. When I search again, new out of place keywords are thrown up.
I've tried going back to the new install basic keyword list and re building my keyword tree, but the minute I put in a search, out of place keywords are thrown up that I can't move into the correct parent.
I've tried starting again with my keyword system - I imagine this will take months and months and there simply HAS to be an easier way to do this.
I've read and re-read the online manual at Adobe and can find nothing that deals specifically with upgrading versions. As a fairly experienced Bridge user I'm aware of it's powers and am so disappointed that this is proving to be such as stumbling block. When I upgraded my Lightroom last year the move from one version to the next was totally seemless. And after minor teething trouble with the PSE side of things, that upgrade was also pretty straight forward, but this Bridge issue is really frustrating and I'm wondering whether to abandon this upgrade and go back to using Bridge CS3 (which is still installed and is saving my sanity work wise).
So, please, PLEASE, does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with this?
Thanking you in advance.
PS: I'm not super technical so need serious spoon feeding through this!

Hi Will
Okay, I think I get. That is -if and when- my KW's never come up
again, I have Bridge on a goose chase for a (junk) word. Now when I
place a word in Bridge search box, Bridge will use it's own quotation
marks around your entry word and look for that.
What I mean is, you are not using some kind of Bridge power search
characters for this search that I might not be aware of.
For example, junk, or NOT=junk, or /junk/
One thing that is driving me a bit nutty right now is, after getting
all my old KW's to display by clicking on the image file days ago,
Bridge placed them all under the hierarchy of "Other Keywords",
meaning my directory structure was lost and every kw ended up under
this new heading.
I went and built new category heading for my many KW's and then,
click and moved these under the new headings and then made permanent
all of these KW.
My frustration is now, that Bridge does not respect the fact that I
moved them to different location. That is they are made permanent in
that new location. But when I relaunch Bridge, and my new KWs
organization comes up, it all looks fine. Click on any picture and
Bridge places the old KW in Italics that were listed under Other
Keywords and throws them in Alphabetical order through out my list,
as if the move is not respective. So I now have two key words for
ever one KW wanted.
I understand that if you take someone else folder and place it on
your system and open an image that those key words might best be down
under the heading Other Keywords or in italics, and that you would
not want Bridge to automatically be messing with your own Key Words
structure.
But I moved these keywords, and bridge does not respect that having
been made, and how I want those KW's displayed on my page. The KW
list get vary long and confusing to look at with words out of place
everywhere amongst my new list. Sometimes you get confused which
ones you are suppose to use when new images are brought in.
it is a laborious frustrating process to clean those italic migrant
keywords out to clean up the house so to speak.
you have to find all presence of that kw
select all those images,
deselect them, sometimes reselect then so that you can deselect them
to get them all
then delete those italic KW
then check the box so that all those images have only that KW under
the heading you want permanent.
My machine seems to manage these small word pieces of data
exceedingly slow. So I may have to wait for a minute or longer for
the list to update.
It seems this will take days. and the list could go "poof" again for
all i know.
Thanks again for your comments!

CS5 Bridge Keywords disappear

I know this has been talked about on the MAC and PC forums for Bridge and has been an issue with CS3 up to CS5. However, it does not seem to be getting any attention from Adobe.
I have gone through the Mac and Win forums from CS3 to CS5 and there are multiple listings of people losing their keywords. I just lost mine again, after rebuilding them about two weeks ago. On another call, 3782474, Paul graciously produced a script to build your existing keywords. You still have to reenter them! Adobe, PLEASE fix this issue. I copied the keyword file and saved it to a backup location. When I lost my file this last time, I restored that file. It stll did not work! I have not upgraded any Adobe products, other Window products or any patches. The only thing I have been doing for the last couple of weeks is editing photos and going from one storage drive to another within Bridge to locate photos. I'm afraid if I lose the one that I just recreated manually that I will no longer use Bridge since this is one of the features that attracts me to it. I'm sure there are other products that will provide keyword search.
Adobe, I hope you are reading this thread and take control. I am running on Windows 7 and Bridge CS5.
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Bob

Yes I am copying the file /users/bob/appdata/roaming/adobe/bridge cs5/adobebridgekeywords and saving it in a folder on my desktop. The file is an XML document type. A sample of a set as it appears in the file is :
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="yes" ?>
- <keywords version="2">
>
- <set name="Animals" disclosed="true">
<item name="Antelope" />
<item name="Babies" />
<item name="Bighorn Sheep" />
<item name="Black Bear" />
<item name="Buffalo" />
<item name="Burro" />
<item name="Chipmunk" />
<item name="Colts" />
<item name="Elk" />
<item name="Fawn" />
<item name="Grizzly" />
<item name="Horses" />
<item name="Moose" />
<item name="Pronghorn Antelope" />
<item name="Wolf" />
</set>
When I replace the bad file with this one, it does not work. If I try importing this file, it will not recognize it.
Bob

Keyword search across multiple folders

Is it possible to do keyword searches across multiple folders and drives in Bridge CS3? On disk I have organised my images by geographical location, but want to keyword them and search for them by theme. This will cut across several drives each with numerous folders and sub-folders. All the drives, folders and sub-folders are on the same pc, which is a stand alone machine and not networked.

With Bridge it will search multiple folders on the same drive, but don't think you can search across multiple drives (I read you can with Lightroom).
The search goes down the directory tree starting where you tell it. So therefore, start high enough to include all folders you want to look in.
If you have Vista you could search across multiple drives if they are indexed. Advanced search allows multiple keywords (tags), and it is very fast, much faster than Bridge.

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