CS3 Crop Marks Appeared Suddenly

Today when I opened my Illus CS3--there were 8 large, black crop marks.
This now happens every single time I create a new document, no matter RGB or CMYK. When I go Object>Crop Marks>Release,
they disappear... .BUT then so do my bounding boxes, and I am left with, effectively, a blank white screen--making it impossible
to situate (or register) my files.
Any ideas? I've looked through some preferences trying to stop the marks from appearing before i create a document, but to no avail.
solving that part would be best.
but, if anyone knows how to get rid of the damn marks while leaving the bounding boxes, i'll take it--even though that's fixing a symptom and not the problem.

Hmm, perhaps this only happens when making documents for web. Yesterday I tried making a CMYK, thinking, well that's clearly not for web, maybe it'll know that--and of course that didn't work. today i decided to tell it specifically to make a document for print, and things are normal. but when i create a web document--i have this same problem.
i'm uploading the illustrator file. you'll see the crop marks and the bounding box. if you go object>crop area>release, you should see the bounding box disappears completely.

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