CS3 / Leopard / EPSON R2400 issue

Hi Everyone,
I'm a design professional who is pretty dumb when it comes to color management.
I have an EPSON R2400 at home and have never gotten it to print right. I had CS2
and had all kinds of problems with it, and have since upgraded to CS3. Over the weekend I upgraded to Leopard and now the prints look horrible. They are really light and have a posterized look to them. I have installed the new EPSON driver that is Leopard compatible. Can anyone walk me through what I need to do to get great prints?
Thanks, Mark

Just purchased a Mac Pro 2x2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon. 16GB 800 MHz DDR2 FB- DIMM
In the past I have been running my Epson 7600 direct from my PC. printing from Q Image and Photoshop Lightroom 2 with fantastic results.
It has been frustrating to find out that the Leopard Driver version 3.09 from Epson will not work regarding positioning the image on the sheet (using roll paper). Epson and Apple do not seem to want to help, even Epson state on their site that the printer driver is not a full featured driver for Leopard.
I then discovered Gutenprint, I have downloaded the driver and have my Mac conected via USB I am printing out of Photoshop Lightroom.
This has corrected the image positioning problem, the only problem now is the I am getting poor colour, can you tell me if I can still allow the the printer to manage colour ? in the Lightroom settings I have tried different settings to no avail.
My files are profiled for Adobe RGB 1998.
If anybody could let me know if they have managed to have the new Epson Driver 3.09 work in their workflow it would be very much appreciated, or maybe they have gone down the same track as myself with the Gutenprint driver .

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Jochen,
I managed to get my 2400 printing OK now. I spent a completely wasted hour e-talking to Epson UK Support yesterday. They offered nothing useful and spent all the time telling me to do obvious things, which was very frustrating. Then I decided to go back to basics. I ditched all the personalised settings in all the print dialogue boxes and tried printing with only basic settings. I had professional print profiles for each of my papers and printers, but none of these will now work and I think that they were the crux of the problem.
This is what I did:
Step 1 - I turned off my printer. After ditching the entire Epson folder from the library and restarting Leopard, I downloaded the current Mac drivers from the Epson Support website and started by reinstalling the 2400 from scratch. I turned on my printer. I ran the downloaded installer and then went into Apple/Preferences/printers and faxes and removed the 2400 that leopard had installed with the gutenburg driver. I then installed the 2400 again through this screen and checked that the downloaded Epson 6.12 driver had installed. It had.
Step 2 - I went to page set-up for the photo I wanted to print in Photoshop CS3 and in Format For: I selected Epson Stylus Photo R2400 and in paper size: I selected A4 (sheet feeder - borderless) and clicked OK
Step 3 - I selected File/print. In Printer I selected Epson Stylus Photo R2400. In colour handling I selected Printer Manages Colour and in Rendering Intent I selected Relative Colorimetric. The I pressed the Print button.
step 4 - I then pressed Proceed in the larger than paper dialogue box taht then appeared and this closed.
Step 5 - This brings you to the Epson Printer Dialogue box. I selected the Print Settings section and selected Premium Glossy Photo paper as the Media Type. In colour settings I selected Epson Standard (sRGB). and selected the Advanced radar button below and best photo as the print quality. When I pressed print I got a good quality print....and it seems to work every time now!
I have also tried this with my Epson 950 and it also works. In fact I am getting better prints with this one than I was before Leopard!
Don't ask my why it is working this way. I don't know. I used to let Photoshop CS3 manage the colour using my profiles, but this will not work now. I suspect that as my profiles were done in tiger they are Tiger dependent. I will contact my supplier next week and discuss this with him. I am still disappointed that I seem to have lost complete control over my printing and blame Apple and Epson in equal measure. From my "discussions" with Epson support it is clear that their "fix" is aimed at the amateur user and not those requiring control over the production phase!
I hope this helps.
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CS3 Leopard Epson R1800 driver problems solved (hopefully)

Trying to put this post in searchable terms for others having the same problem finding the answer -- new to mac.
Everybody knows that you need to go to epson.com and download the new mac leopard drivers for most of the printers, including R1800. But the new driver won't install correctly unless you go into Library/Printers/ and move the entire "EPSON" folder into the trash can before double clicking the VISE install icon on the downloaded package. (Maybe there is another way to make it work, but mine wouldn't actually install and start working till I did this.)
If you have the right driver, you will see "EPSON SP R1800 (1)" as your driver in System Preferences/Print&Fax. Also, you will see "Print Settings", "Roll Paper Option", "Expansion" and "Extension Settings" as options in the pulldown menu in the epson print dialog through PS CS3 (after hitting print in the first print dialog box). There is also a "basic" and "Advanced" choice under Print Settings.
If you still have the wrong driver, you won't get any errors, but the new dialog box won't show up. The old driver that doesn't work shows up (I think I remember correctly) as EPSON SPR 1800 in your System Preferences window. No parenthetical. Also, if you have the old bad driver, in the epson print dialog box, you see a different set of options, and no 'basic' and 'advanced' choice under print settings.
I hope that helps some people. I was having a hard time knowing if I had the new driver actually working (even though I thought I installed it). Turns out I didn't! Thanks to random post by John McWilliams and Duane Ellison (who posted screenshot of new dialog in the LR forum), I figured out the thing with the Epson folder. Now let's just hope the prints look good!

Hi Laura.
Isn't that the most frustrating thing in the world? Anyway, that isn't the right driver. That is the one that ships with Leopard (or something, I don't know - anyway, wrong one).
Try deleting the EPSON folder again, deleting your printer from system prefs/print fax, reinstalling the driver and re-finding your printer. Now that I think about it, I did that, and generally fiddled around in there a bit, before it worked.
I don't know how Macs associate printers with drivers (I'm a PC person and missing my PC!), but once the software in the dmg package was properly installed, the printer automatically picked up the EPSON SP R1800 (1) driver when I told it to go look for printers. I didn't have to choose it from the list of drivers.
Hope that helps.
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Hi,
For no reason that I can see, when I try to print from my Epson R2400, Photoshop CS3 crashes.
It was working fine up to yesterday with no issues.
I have re installed the drivers etc but no use.
I also cannot choose Printer Manages Colors, as it is now greyed out.
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Thanks for the replies.
I understand now that the procedure is probably the reason.
I was just experimenting as LAB colours are colours we see through our eyes, while RGB, CMYK etc are "computer" colours and so I use LAB colours a lot, before switching back to RGB.
I normally switch to LAB mode and click on the Lightness channel, then play with adjustments of that channel. This time I decided to mess around and see what would happen if I removed all channels except the Lightness one....
Converting to greyscale for me is not enough unfortunately and LAB B+W provides much better contrast and tone than hitting CTRL+Shift+U to greyscale.
Again, I understand what you say, my point being though that Photoshop should not crash because I incorrectly remove the channels, perhaps a warning to tell me I can't do it would be better.
I'll pass this onto Adobe anyway.
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Second, go to Mac system preferences, Printers and Fax and delete the Epson printer from the list.
Third, put your Snow Leopard disc back in your Mac and when the dialog comes up, select optional installations folder (or something like that--I don't have it open right now). Then check Rosetta and install it.
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P.S. This is not a completely new driver written for Snow Leopard--that may come sometime down the road or may not). This, so I am told, is a Power PC driver and Rosetta (as in Rosetta stone) is a utility that translates it so that it can be used on an iMac.
As a consumer, you should hate Epson. They, as has the world, knew Snow Leopard was coming for at least a year. By now they should have had all new drivers and this should have been worked out so that people didn't have to call technical support (a waste of my time and their's). Since the Epson R2400 is discontinued, they apparently don't feel compelled to provide premium service and updates for it. I bought mine about a 1.5 years ago. They should not abandon products this quickly after discontinuing them. As far as I can tell, they come out with a new printer in this price segment every couple of years. I shouldn't have to buy a new printer every two years.
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I am sure your advice will help Mac users, however, my comment is on a different front. I remain fascinated at the extent to which Mac users refuse to blame Apple when they have problems with their OS. Many Epson drivers don't work, many HP drivers don't work, Cisco VPN (supposedly built into the OS) doesn't work for some, there are problems with PS CS4 and LR, other are having problems with Parallels Desktop, some are struggling to get AT&T's Laptop Connect card software to function, and Nikon has a warning up to not install the new OS if you want to use Capture NX2. Actually, do a search and you will find lots of complaints. Perhaps instead of just blaming Epson, HP, Adobe, etc., one might want to bring the producer of the OS into the equation. It certainly sounds like Apple was not working with some of its major software partners as closely as they should. It is hardly the case that Apple has a perfect record in this area anyway - there are reasons why there is a 64 bit version of PS CS4 for Vista/Windows 7 and not for 10.X. Of course, at least for companies like Adobe, Epson, Hp, Nikon, etc., they are also pushing to finish drivers and updates for Windows 7. Perhaps Apple should have factored that in when they pushed to beat Microsoft to release.
Leaving all of that aside, anyone who adopts any OS on the date of release 1) needs to do their homework to make sure the stuff they use will work, and 2) should expect that at least a few things won't function the way they want. That is a fact of life for early adopters, and should be considered even more likely to be the case in the middle of a recession that has sucked resources away from companies. Early adoption of any new technology, whether it be an OS, app, new computer, new camera, or things like a blue ray DVD player comes at some cost.
BTW, as a legal user of the Windows 7 RTM, I have found that PS CS4 and LR function exceptionally well and my Epson printer drivers work without issue - none of the apps or drivers have (as yet) even been updated for Windows 7. At least from my perspective, that would suggest that Mac users might want to turn at least a bit to the producer of their OS, and how it handled the development and release of 10.6, before laying all of the blame for problems at the feet of the hardware and software partners....
Stephen

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My problem is that my print outs are off-centered, even though everything is all right on the screen (and the margins I define on LR are even).
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When I try and Preview from inside the Epson Print dialogue, it just shows a blank page, so I'm pretty sure it's Photoshop that's at fault, as Previewing a similar job from Microsoft Word turns out fine.
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I've the exact same problem - though I'm using Lightroom 2.4 (64 bit) and Photoshop Elements 6 for Mac.
Printing from Textpad & Pages works fine - but every print from Lightroom and Photoshop Elements just disappears (like Monkeytennis2 described).
I've tried different drivers: the new 6.57 - and the older 6.12 (via Rosetta). The Gutenprint 5.2.3 works, but the quality is just miserable.
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Using Ian Lyon's method from tutorial with LR leaves photo washed out when LR manages color with whatever profile used.
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So, until the LR team (or Apple or Epson) trouble-shoots the "problem", I'm left with the work_around mentioned previously.
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Would my prints appear identical IF the Epson 6.12 driver had an option (4)Pro Photo RGB?
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--Dave

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I have been down this road before but here goes again...
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I know this printer is capable of very good quality prints.
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I have read that you are supposed to turn off all printer color management and let Adobe manage the color. Doesnt seem to work.
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Have spent hours with both Adobe and Epson support people. I've read several of these forums. Is there an insurmountable problem with CS3 and Epson (2200/2400 are mine)? I have the Leopard patches and upgrade 10.5.4.
With Photoshop managing the color I get prints that are slightly underexposed and carry a pink cast. Color management is off. With the printer managing the color I get prints that are too green and dark. Epson advice here is to have color management off. There are two other choices for management but to adjust a perfectly balanced print to the printer's whim seem like cruel punishment.
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After recently migrating from Tiger to Leopard I reinstalled the driver software for my Epson R2400, and have been having CS3 printing problems ever since.
The project I'm doing print work from involves CMYK versions of greyscale photos and a spot color (Pantone 200PC, also tried Trumatch 5-a2).
If I try to print from InDesign, or from Acrobat using an InDesign "press quality" pdf, everything's 'thin'. The greyscale photos are a bit washed out, and the spot color is pink rather than rich red.
If I export a jpg from InDesign and print from Photoshop the quality is acceptable
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