CS3: Make mask using group with strokes, fills, multiple objects,etc

I am currently using CS3, and I have created 2 objects with gradient clipping masks on them, to go over a group (my logo). I am hoping to create a glass effect with these gradients over my logo.
The problem I am running into is that I cannot use my logo as a group to mask the gradient objects. I have attempted joining, combining, etc my logo group and making it a mask, but there are strokes inside that then mask as the fill shape.
Is there a way to mask, not unlike the clipping mask tool that is so easily used in Photoshop CS3?

Is this any help?
To clarify this is what I want to achieve:
So that all the grey area is transparent.

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